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Lita needs feedback too :(; Since Jim and I are so close
Topic Started: Feb 28 2015, 06:36 PM (204 Views)
Lita Maivia
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Since Jim and I are so close we're practically the same person, it's my turn to hopefully get some feedback. :)

Honestly, it's been a long time since I've been around FIW. I've never stopped RPing but I've been RPing the whole time for NGIW where my goal is to entertain the one man in charge there. There's a whole different set of rules here in FIW. For starters, I don't really know what Marc likes to read. So I am here to beg for some feedback on how my characters are doing.

Johnny is the one I'm more concerned with feedback for. He's my active competitor. He wants to be successful, he wants to be liked, he wants be more than just a guy on the roster. How is he coming across to people? Is he boring? What needs changed? Please help me!

I'd appreciate some feedback on Brittany if you've got it and feel strongly enough about something to weigh in. She's not really a competitive character at the moment. I do want her wins and losses to be judged by the efforts put in, but she's not really in hot pursuit of any championships or anything (not until you lot bring in a blasted women's title! Hehe).

So yeah. Who's got time for me? Pretty please? I might even make you a sig if you're really helpful and I can muster up some creativity for your character. :unsure:
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I'll get a funny pun or 1-liner about us being the same person later. :P

I love Johnny & Brittany. They're just so cute and innocent. It's really refreshing, since everyone else on the babyface roster is so jaded and battle-hardened.

I think what I like best about Johnny is that he knows that wrestling is a hard place to thrive in, he knows that nice guys finish last but he's npt going to sell out and turn his back on his morals to succeed. He's not going to let the business jade him. It's admirable.

Brittany's adorable. She just has this innocent, childlike enthusiasm about her. It feels very natural and real, not forced or shoe-horned. I think we've all had a friend like Brittany before, that's why she's a fun read and easy to cheerfor.
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[size0]Thanks, Lita! :)

<center><select style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 8pt; background-color: cc3300; font-weight: bold; color:black">
<option style="color:black">THE ROUGAROU</option>
<option> Name: </option>
<option>"The Rougarou" Silas Bergeron</option>
<option>Height:</option>
<option>6'6"</option>
<option>Weight:</option>
<option>296 lbs.</option>
<option>Hometown:</option>
<option>The Bayou</option>
<option>Entrance Music:</option>
<option>Led Zeppelin - 'When The Levee Breaks'</option>
<option>Wrestling Style:</option>
<option>Methodical Powerhouse</option>
<option>Signature Moves:</option>
<option> - Sword of Damocles </option>
<option> - Chokeslam </option>
<option> - Bayou Leg Sweep </option>
<option>Finishing Moves:</option>
<option> - Swamp Drop Brainbuster</option>
<option> - Honey Island Swamp Lock </option>
<option>Title History:</option>
<option> - 1x Fighting Spirit Champion</option>
<option>Other Cool Stuff:</option>
<option> - 2014 1st Runner Up, FIW Roleplay of the Year (Family Reunion)</option>
<option> - 2014 FIW Segment of the Year (The Rougarou Cometh)</option>
<option> - 2014 1st Runner Up, FIW Feud of the Year (vs. Mr. GEIST/Deacon DEATH)</option>
<option> - 2014 FIW Duo of the Year (w/ Butch Babineaux)</option>
<option> - 2014 1st Runner Up, FIW Newcomer of the Year</option>
<option> - 2014 & 2015 FIW Manager of the Year (Butch Babineaux)</option>
<option> </option>
<option> Now do you believe in The Rougarou? </option>
</select></center>
<center><select style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 8pt; background-color: cadetblue; font-weight: bold; color:black">
<option style="color:black">#SWAGOLITION</option>
<option> Name: </option>
<option>"The Condemned" Lucas Bergeron</option>
<option>Height:</option>
<option>6'4½"</option>
<option>Weight:</option>
<option>235 lbs.</option>
<option>Hometown:</option>
<option>Kandiyohi, Minnesota</option>
<option>Entrance Music:</option>
<option>Black Sabbath - 'Hole in the Sky'</option>
<option>Wrestling Style:</option>
<option>Athletic - Strong Style - Brawler</option>
<option>Signature Moves:</option>
<option> - Exploder Suplex </option>
<option> - Powerbomb </option>
<option> - German Suplex </option>
<option>Finishing Moves:</option>
<option> - The Manhattan Project</option>
<option> - Honey Island Swamp Lock </option>
<option>Title History:</option>
<option> - n/a </option>
<option>Other Cool Stuff:</option>
<option> - 2015 FIW ReVolt Match of the Year (vs. Nemesis, 6/6/15)</option>
<option> - 2015 FIW Feud of the Year (vs. Nemesis)</option>
<option> - 2015 FIW Babyface of the Year</option>
<option> - 2015 FIW Duo of the Year (w/ The Rougarou)</option>
<option> </option>
<option> Just Give The Lunatic A Chance... </option>
</select></center>
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<option style="color:black">THE MAN IN BLACK</option>
<option> Name: </option>
<option>Jim O'Brien </option>
<option>Height:</option>
<option>6'7"</option>
<option>Weight:</option>
<option>290 lbs.</option>
<option>Hometown:</option>
<option>Grant's Lick, Kentucky</option>
<option>Entrance Music:</option>
<option>Motörhead - 'Line in the Sand'</option>
<option>Wrestling Style:</option>
<option>Strong Style Powerhouse</option>
<option>Signature Moves:</option>
<option> - Belly-to-Belly Suplex</option>
<option> - Saito Suplex </option>
<option> - Jackknife Powerbomb </option>
<option> - Hells Bells-plex</option>
<option>Finishing Moves:</option>
<option> - Hells Bells</option>
<option> - F-Bomb</option>
<option>Title History:</option>
<option> - 2x Fighting Spirit Champion </option>
<option> - 1x co-holder of the FIW Tag Team Championships of the World (w/ Jorge O'Brien)</option>
<option> - 1x Ultimate Endurance Champion</option>
<option> - 1x Spirit Of Honour Champion</option>
<option> - 3x Dual Crown Champion</option>
<option> Other Cool Stuff: </option>
<option> - 2015 FIW Hall of Fame inductee</option>
<option> - 2004 TNT Superstar Of The Year</option>
<option> - 2004 Feud Of The Year (w/ Silent Rage)</option>
<option> - 2004 Match Of The Year participant (vs. Silent Rage @ FIW Genocide)
<option> - 2005 1st Runner-Up, TNT Superstar Of The Year</option>
<option> - 2005 Co-Match Of The Year participant (vs. Silent Rage @ FIW Anarchy In The UK)</option>
<option> - 2008 & 2012 Lady Luck Tournament Champion </option>
<option> - 2008 Grand Prix Tournament Champion</option>
<option> - 2008 Match of the Year participant (vs. Liam Mortell vs. Kiyoshi Nakahata @ FIW Summer of Sin) </option>
<option> - 2008 1st Runner-Up, FIW Feud of the Year participant (vs. Ash Koopa)</option>
<option> - 2008 1st Runner-Up, FIW (Face/Heel/Tweener) Turn of the Year</option>
<option> - 2009 ReVolt Match Of The Year participant (vs. Ethan Adams @ ReVolt Against The Champions X)</option>
<option> - 2009 FIW Tag Team Of The Year (The O'Brien Clan, w/ Jorge O'Brien)</option>
<option> - 2009 FIW Duo Of The Year (w/ Kendra O'Brien)</option>
<option> - April 2012 Superstar of the Month</option>
<option> - April 2012 Storyline of the Month ("Dirty Deeds...")</option>
<option> - May 2012 Superstar of the Month</option>
<option> - May 2012 Match of the Month participant (vs. Damien Holburn @ FIW Deadlock)</option>
<option> - July 2012 Co-Match of the Month participant (vs. Mad Dawg @ FIW ReVolt (07/01/12)</option>
<option> </option>
<option> So yeah, Jim was awesome. :-D </option>
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I like them both.

They're both pretty simple characters right now.

Not that that is necessarily a bad thing.

Just they are pretty white meat babyfaces. Which I guess is a testament to you that they aren't unbearable, like most people are when they write a character like that.

Johnny I feel lost some of his flair recently.

Though I get that's probably because of the feud with Mark and the issues with the Summit.

Brittany feels like she's finding her purpose for being here still. Well, beyond just because she wanted to support Johnny.
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We work together a lot and both of them are really fun. I think the reason both of them are so intriguing is that they're innocents in a screwed up business.

I sort of love that Johnny's starting to get his hands dirty and his losing his innocence a bit. It makes him more assertive character which is the right step forward. It feels like you have a good plan from where he's going.

I have less of an idea of where Brittany's going, so that's probably your biggest challenge right now.

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I've said it before in show feedback, but I'm a big fan of Johnny. I like what you've been doing with him. The story with him being dejected because of the falling out with Mark Cannon is really good, and the way Johnny was basically reeling from that was portrayed really well. I also like how it fed into the feud with Nathaniel as well.

Like Jim said, I like the fact that Johnny's mindset is "I know this is gonna be hard and it might take a lot to keep it from breaking me, but god dammit I'm gonna try my damnedest to keep that from happening." That desire to be successful is definitely coming across and, until now, even the desire not to step on any toes and piss anyone off was also coming across. I feel like the falling out with Mark Cannon sort of galvanized him and made him think twice about whether or not he wants to buddy up with anybody now.

Overall, I really like the direction you're going with Johnny. All of his reactions to the situations he finds himself in are very natural and realistic to how someone might act when faced with the same thing.
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I don't want the business to ruin a kid like Johnny, because he is so kind and so talented and absolutely the definition of a babyface. He is determined, positive and there's nothing complicated about him. He feels very real and I like it a lot.
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Johnny I feel lost some of his flair recently.


Do tell. Not that I'm defensive about it or anything, just interested to hear your observations.

Another thing I wanted to add, with Johnny & Brittany so "white-meat," it really makes the heels that they're going against just that much more bad. I honestly consider Quincy Wilson one of the 3-4 best heels in FIW right now mostly for all his interaction that he's had with Johnny & Brittany. Mark Cannon's right there as well. Your heel is only going to be as good as the babyface that they're working with (and vice versa) and IMO Quincy & Mark are such hate-able heels right now because of Johnny & Brittany.
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[size0]Thanks, Lita! :)

<center><select style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 8pt; background-color: cc3300; font-weight: bold; color:black">
<option style="color:black">THE ROUGAROU</option>
<option> Name: </option>
<option>"The Rougarou" Silas Bergeron</option>
<option>Height:</option>
<option>6'6"</option>
<option>Weight:</option>
<option>296 lbs.</option>
<option>Hometown:</option>
<option>The Bayou</option>
<option>Entrance Music:</option>
<option>Led Zeppelin - 'When The Levee Breaks'</option>
<option>Wrestling Style:</option>
<option>Methodical Powerhouse</option>
<option>Signature Moves:</option>
<option> - Sword of Damocles </option>
<option> - Chokeslam </option>
<option> - Bayou Leg Sweep </option>
<option>Finishing Moves:</option>
<option> - Swamp Drop Brainbuster</option>
<option> - Honey Island Swamp Lock </option>
<option>Title History:</option>
<option> - 1x Fighting Spirit Champion</option>
<option>Other Cool Stuff:</option>
<option> - 2014 1st Runner Up, FIW Roleplay of the Year (Family Reunion)</option>
<option> - 2014 FIW Segment of the Year (The Rougarou Cometh)</option>
<option> - 2014 1st Runner Up, FIW Feud of the Year (vs. Mr. GEIST/Deacon DEATH)</option>
<option> - 2014 FIW Duo of the Year (w/ Butch Babineaux)</option>
<option> - 2014 1st Runner Up, FIW Newcomer of the Year</option>
<option> - 2014 & 2015 FIW Manager of the Year (Butch Babineaux)</option>
<option> </option>
<option> Now do you believe in The Rougarou? </option>
</select></center>
<center><select style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 8pt; background-color: cadetblue; font-weight: bold; color:black">
<option style="color:black">#SWAGOLITION</option>
<option> Name: </option>
<option>"The Condemned" Lucas Bergeron</option>
<option>Height:</option>
<option>6'4½"</option>
<option>Weight:</option>
<option>235 lbs.</option>
<option>Hometown:</option>
<option>Kandiyohi, Minnesota</option>
<option>Entrance Music:</option>
<option>Black Sabbath - 'Hole in the Sky'</option>
<option>Wrestling Style:</option>
<option>Athletic - Strong Style - Brawler</option>
<option>Signature Moves:</option>
<option> - Exploder Suplex </option>
<option> - Powerbomb </option>
<option> - German Suplex </option>
<option>Finishing Moves:</option>
<option> - The Manhattan Project</option>
<option> - Honey Island Swamp Lock </option>
<option>Title History:</option>
<option> - n/a </option>
<option>Other Cool Stuff:</option>
<option> - 2015 FIW ReVolt Match of the Year (vs. Nemesis, 6/6/15)</option>
<option> - 2015 FIW Feud of the Year (vs. Nemesis)</option>
<option> - 2015 FIW Babyface of the Year</option>
<option> - 2015 FIW Duo of the Year (w/ The Rougarou)</option>
<option> </option>
<option> Just Give The Lunatic A Chance... </option>
</select></center>
<center><select style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 8pt; background-color: 14b8ff; font-weight: bold; color:black">
<option style="color:black">THE MAN IN BLACK</option>
<option> Name: </option>
<option>Jim O'Brien </option>
<option>Height:</option>
<option>6'7"</option>
<option>Weight:</option>
<option>290 lbs.</option>
<option>Hometown:</option>
<option>Grant's Lick, Kentucky</option>
<option>Entrance Music:</option>
<option>Motörhead - 'Line in the Sand'</option>
<option>Wrestling Style:</option>
<option>Strong Style Powerhouse</option>
<option>Signature Moves:</option>
<option> - Belly-to-Belly Suplex</option>
<option> - Saito Suplex </option>
<option> - Jackknife Powerbomb </option>
<option> - Hells Bells-plex</option>
<option>Finishing Moves:</option>
<option> - Hells Bells</option>
<option> - F-Bomb</option>
<option>Title History:</option>
<option> - 2x Fighting Spirit Champion </option>
<option> - 1x co-holder of the FIW Tag Team Championships of the World (w/ Jorge O'Brien)</option>
<option> - 1x Ultimate Endurance Champion</option>
<option> - 1x Spirit Of Honour Champion</option>
<option> - 3x Dual Crown Champion</option>
<option> Other Cool Stuff: </option>
<option> - 2015 FIW Hall of Fame inductee</option>
<option> - 2004 TNT Superstar Of The Year</option>
<option> - 2004 Feud Of The Year (w/ Silent Rage)</option>
<option> - 2004 Match Of The Year participant (vs. Silent Rage @ FIW Genocide)
<option> - 2005 1st Runner-Up, TNT Superstar Of The Year</option>
<option> - 2005 Co-Match Of The Year participant (vs. Silent Rage @ FIW Anarchy In The UK)</option>
<option> - 2008 & 2012 Lady Luck Tournament Champion </option>
<option> - 2008 Grand Prix Tournament Champion</option>
<option> - 2008 Match of the Year participant (vs. Liam Mortell vs. Kiyoshi Nakahata @ FIW Summer of Sin) </option>
<option> - 2008 1st Runner-Up, FIW Feud of the Year participant (vs. Ash Koopa)</option>
<option> - 2008 1st Runner-Up, FIW (Face/Heel/Tweener) Turn of the Year</option>
<option> - 2009 ReVolt Match Of The Year participant (vs. Ethan Adams @ ReVolt Against The Champions X)</option>
<option> - 2009 FIW Tag Team Of The Year (The O'Brien Clan, w/ Jorge O'Brien)</option>
<option> - 2009 FIW Duo Of The Year (w/ Kendra O'Brien)</option>
<option> - April 2012 Superstar of the Month</option>
<option> - April 2012 Storyline of the Month ("Dirty Deeds...")</option>
<option> - May 2012 Superstar of the Month</option>
<option> - May 2012 Match of the Month participant (vs. Damien Holburn @ FIW Deadlock)</option>
<option> - July 2012 Co-Match of the Month participant (vs. Mad Dawg @ FIW ReVolt (07/01/12)</option>
<option> </option>
<option> So yeah, Jim was awesome. :-D </option>
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Johnny is a clean cut, stoic hero that FIW needs. He's got the clean record, and a fresh palette that hasn't been tarnished by history. He's fresh to FIW and seeing him shape and form every week to every victory/defeat is an interesting read and it's a pleasure to see him grow. I'm bummed that Roy/Douglas vs Johnny/Brittany never really panned out like I wanted it to. I thought Greater/Amazing had an interesting name game going on.

Brittany needs to gain weight. Freakin' twig.

:P I'll cut Neo's hair when she eats a sandwich.

I like Brittany though, she's the voice of reason that keeps the Amazing character grounded in reality and doesn't let him get to full of himself. I like the dynamic she creates with Johnny.
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Brittany is becoming friends with Catherine. I think that pretty much speaks volumes of her character right there. I like both sides I've seen of her. The side she has for dealing with Terri and the other for Catherine. I also like how she won't bring herself to say "Bitch" but keeps being cute with B. :P But again, mostly that she's getting so friendly with Catherine she's actually defending said friendship now. :)

Haven't had too many interactions with Johnny to spell out enough of an opinion but I imagine that might change sooner or later is a certain someone doesn't let up. :)

Can I also say I like Kim but hate her "no women" representation rule? :P

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That's a lot for the feedback, guys! It's all very helpful.

I too would like to hear more about Johnny losing his flair just so that I can maybe try to get it back. So, that would be really good if Sid could help me out there. :)

I do agree that Brittany having a direction is the biggest thing I am lacking at the moment. I love the stuff she's done with Catherine and I always love RPing with her Johnny. Right now she's just missing Mark but she doesn't want to kick his ass. Johnny just got to that place, I don't think Brittany can get there. However, with Marc's revelation that the Hellcat title might be coming back should help big time with giving Brittany some direction. *fingers crossed*

As far as Kim is concerned, she doesn't really have a "no women" rule when it comes to who she represents. She's just not really found a woman that she likes enough to care to help. There was one but it didn't pan out.
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I'm back to ask for more feedback. This time I'm only looking for feedback on JOHNNY AMAZING. I'm desperate, you guys. I don't want to hear any positive stuff. I want the straight truth on what sucks about him. There has to be something. I feel like he has been spinning his wheels every since he started. Outside of the feud with Mark (that Dan and I did on our own backs), I just feel like Johnny's not really done much of anything. His tag title reign was good (albeit short) but it felt mostly like I was just riding off of Mark who was picking up all the wins. Now that Dan's had to leave and Johnny is back on his own, right out of the gate he's losing. Maybe it's just a bad start or whatever but I really don't want to continue on this path with him.

I'm going to be perfectly honest. Not being overly dramatic, but if I can't make it work with him then I'm not going to keep at it with him. And since Johnny is my main character (and plays a big part in the reason I've even put Brittany here) it would likely result in a full exit from the place.

So there you go. That's my desperate plea for how do I fix him?!?!?!
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Create a persona and a goal for him that you can head towards. He's thrown his moral code out the window, and so now what is his motivation? Is it to win titles? End the career of 4R for what they did to Mark? Does he just want to hurt people?

That is, in your words what 'sucks' about him. I like Johnny. I think he's a great, dramatic character. But he needs a goal now and soon you'll feel like you aren't spinning your wheels anymore. Maybe he wants the UIC? Maybe the FSC like Mark? Maybe the Dual Crown?
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I thought it was obvious he wanted 4R and was going to do what he had to to get his hands on them. At least that's basically what he said in his segment last week and RPs this week.
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Based on what you said in the feedback thread for the match with Johnny, it seems you're going through the same thing I was when I first came here with Nathaniel. After the Johnny/Nathaniel feud seemingly got pulled, I was sort of lost after that. And I think it showed because Nathaniel kept losing matches constantly until recently with the Krychek feud. That's what saved it for me cause then I had direction to go on. So, trust me when I say I know exactly how you're feeling with this; it's incredibly frustrating.

I know you said you want straight truth about Johnny and not just shine a light on his positives, and this is the absolute straight truth; I can't see anything that is a negative with him. At least not in the strictest sense. His goal of wanting to get to 4R for what they did to Mark definitely did come through in the RP's you posted with him this week. The whole time he was focused on changing his match so that he could get 4R for what they did. Maybe you could turn this loss into a storyline thing? He was so focused on getting 4R that he took his head out of the game and ended up losing the match. "Bad on me, I guess, but that won't stop me." That sort of thing.

I definitely think this obsession with getting retribution against 4R is a good direction to go in and just go all out. Maybe it even gets into his head so much that he just starts going off on people in the ring? In his mind everybody is 4R and that won't stop until he gets them to himself to get that retribution? In that sense, I think Will is right in defining a short term goal for him. You have the long term goal for sure; getting 4R, but a short term would be better for him to carry him from week to week. Each week his opponent is someone in 4R and his focus is just tearing them apart "for you, Mark." I think having him mentally unravel because of it would be a great way to go.

I'm not sure how much of this helps, if any. All I know is I sincerely hope you don't drop Johnny and decide to leave the fed. Working with you was among the short list of reasons why I decided to bring Nathaniel here, so it would definitely suck if you decided to leave.
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I thought it was obvious he wanted 4R and was going to do what he had to to get his hands on them. At least that's basically what he said in his segment last week and RPs this week.

That there is the perfect explanation for why Johnny got beat by Cage Murdock. He took his eye off the ball. He's too worried about getting 4R in the ring that he didn't see what was in front of him. Johnny's fairly new yet, that's still a rookie mistake on his part. Maybe now he'll feel like, no matter who he's in the ring with he sees Johann's face, or Gunther's. That will give him new focus.
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Um, I appreciate the feedback Will but Johnny's entire solo RP was about how he was focused on Cage and going to beat him to prove to Jack that he could keep his cool and get the job done so he could get the match he really wants. I would hope no one making the calls around here would take everything Johnny said and decide to make him do the exact opposite of what he says he's doing.

I made him angry with 4R, yes. But I also showcased that he's capable of thinking clearly despite that.
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First of all please, please PLEASE don't leave! Lol. I feel like Nathan does and have always enjoyed working with or against your characters cause whatever I picture in terms of story lines always seems to play out perfectly. Since I never got to work with you during the Slam/TNT days it's nice being able to do that now which is a big reason I didn't want the brand split.

As for Johnny, to me, he still comes off very "boy scoutish" to me. I'd like to see more aggression. Not necessarily in his actions but in the way that he talks. On top of that, he's an amazing athlete so it would maybe be cool if he showcased that more by being able to do anything athletic. I think of the Mr. Perfect vignettes from the 90s where he'd shoot baskets and make them like nothing or throw football passes that were 90 yard bombs and be able to connect easily. It doesn't have to be the exact same thing but it might highlight the "amazing" part of him.

Hell, maybe even have him team up with Eversol eventually and they could be partners who basically compete with one another to see who can be even more athletic or "amazing." Just an idea. They could also compete over the Sami Zayn kick they both do. Haha. I hope that was a bit helpful.
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