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| FIW Weekly Double Shot Supershow Feedback; December 1st, 2015 | |
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| Lita Maivia | Dec 3 2015, 03:29 AM Post #26 |
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Yeah, well your 2009 self is kind of an ass. Piss that bastard off as much as you can. While you're at it, piss off my 2009 bitch self.And Sid does have a tough job. I respect his willingness to shoulder it all himself so that nobody else has to take any complaints and whatnot, but HEY! I bring on my own heat in threads like this.
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| Jo | Dec 3 2015, 04:04 AM Post #27 |
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Hey now, I've said it before and I'll say it here; it's awesome when you're not the centre of the controversy. Also, and I know I've said this before too, but your 2009 self frightened me. ![]() Party on, Joe. ~eat snacky smores~ |
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| Clockman89 | Dec 3 2015, 04:05 AM Post #28 |
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Spiral Out, Keep Going
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I'd be hurt by this, but hell, by the time I got done writing my proposal I had decided to vote for Sid, too. |
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| Lita Maivia | Dec 3 2015, 04:06 AM Post #29 |
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Classic Billy.
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| That Darn Seph | Dec 3 2015, 04:42 AM Post #30 |
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The High Elevation Sensation!
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I voted for Billy. |
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| Pain | Dec 3 2015, 04:49 AM Post #31 |
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SUPER QUICK FEED BACK, GO! I sucked this week, Cody did better than I thought he would, Awesome show! |
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| cookingood | Dec 3 2015, 05:39 AM Post #32 |
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Back to back quick feedbacks, yay! I meant to do this earlier but... As Michael Cole would say, "Vintage Matt! THAT IS VINTAGE MATT RIGHT THERE!"... aka I got distracted.. nevermind that though. Had a ton of fun working with Lita on the Caleb and Darian RP. The match played out well and I don't think I have disliked the way a single one of my matches have been written. The rest of the show was pretty good as well. Tough decisions were made as previously stated but I think that's just the way things go sometimes. And I think this may be my first post in a feedback thread? It's probable. Either way, I'd like to take the time now to thank everyone who works on the show because I love it. |
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| Dai | Dec 3 2015, 11:33 AM Post #33 |
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I don't even think it's a case of doing anything better. Your two this week were a little short, but personally I prefer too short to too long; and it all read okay. I do think it's a case of doing something different. Get an interviewer in or take a trip to the zoo. Something a little different to freshen things up. |
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| Jimmy Jimbo | Dec 3 2015, 04:29 PM Post #34 |
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Okay, I'm going to cover a lot of ground here. Time to bust out... ~! What I messed up and how I essentially derailed this thread. This verbage threw me off:
As odd as it sounds, I interpreted "matched" as "replied to" because I didn't know what context you meant. So in my own fuzzy head, I thought one of the reasons people were upset was because Mun waited un til Sunday to reply to Nate's roleplay, and then I just got mad and thought "Well what did you expect?!" and posted my little not-a-hit-piece hit piece (and I'm not entirely sure I'm using 'hit piece' in the right context as well. Sometimes I hear words, say them in a context I think works and, if I'm wrong, suffer the consequences later). So Mun, I also owe you an apology for... I don't know. I don't know what I was doing. I think I might've been trying to defend you in some way. I don't know. I just don't know. Let's just act like that post didn't happen and things go back to normal. But I will say, I think one of these days we're going to have to do something about a person's first roleplay being on Sunday. An adjustment in policy is going to be needed to be made eventually. Cause hell, if there's one thing that honest to God scares me is posting my first roleplay on Sunday. I mean, I can't roleplay on weekends anyway, but something might happen one day where there may be a week or a month or more straight where I can only post my roleplays on Sunday. And I just don't want to lose an important match because someone cried "deadline bomb!" If I'm going to lose a match that isn't predetermined (like I do those anymore :P) I want it to be because of the quality of my work, not because of the time I posted it. Why I didn't vote for Nathaniel Alexander: I'll put my name on it. I appreciate what Sid's trying to do, but it's okay. People can know who I voted for and who I didn't. But this part...
This was mine. Almost word for word what I PM'ed Sid (he cleaned it up a bit, what I sent him was a little scatterbrained [I think my mother-in-law's dog shit in my son's room again, so I got started, had to stop to help clean that up, came back and finished the PM so it was a little disjointed]). But this is why I didn't vote for Nate: WWE Network just uploaded about a year and a half's worth of episodes of NWA: World Championship Wrestling (/WCW Saturday Night) from I wanna say 86-88 a couple weeks ago and I've been binge-watching those like crazy. Mostly skipping the matches to watch the promos. And they are awesome. Dusty, Flair, the Road Warriors, the Horsemen, Jimmy Valiant, it's awesome. I'm in heaven. Anyway, I watched a lot of Tully Blanchard promos, and I know you (Nate) said in the past that Tully and Reign of Terror era Triple H are two of your biggest influences on Nathaniel. And Tully's just awesome because he speaks with such conviction and confidence and (yeah, there's the magic word again) venom. And with Nathaniel, I just didn't feel that. Maybe because it's easier to watch one thing versus reading another, but right now Nathaniel doesn't feel like he has any power. I didn't feel the power, I didn't feel the conviction, the confidence, the venom. And if there's four things that are essential to the Nathaniel Alexander character, it's those. Instead it was "I've been resting on my laurels," saying the whole Nemesis/Kim ordeal was his fault and, honestly, coming across a bit lovesick that Kim wasn't around. And I just kept thinking "You're Nathaniel Alexander! Why are you saying this?" Nathaniel Alexander is a six and a half foot tall, 300 pound wrecking machine with a borderline genius IQ. I don't want to read him vulnerable. I don't want to read him shaken. I want to read why Alexander's going to win no matter what's in front of him and about how good he's going to look doing it. "But I'm not selling for my opponent" - put over Mungrel's accomplishments, put over his skill, but Nathaniel doesn't have to kiss his ass. He's heel. Really, in my mind, the putting over/selling is more of a babyface trait anyway, but there are effective heel ways to do it that don't compromise your character. A quick blurb on Gus Richlen: Gus Richlen is awesome. No, I mean it - he's AWESOME. Gus Richlen makes me believe what I'm reading is real. I think a lot of us need to be careful and remember we're not writing essays here. We're not writing perfectly crafted scripts. We are roleplaying people, we are roleplaying professional wrestlers. And not every sentence is going to be perfectly assembled. I know I've gotten a lot of praise for the way I've written Lucas because he feels real and unscripted and that's because I just write how how people actually talk. We say "um" and "ah" and "uh" between our words sometimes. Sometimes we pause to scratch our nose. Stuff like that. That's just the approach I take, write what I'm writing as realistically as possible, even if it's something as crazy as The Rougarou teleporting or doing whatever black magick wizardry he does/"isn't responsible for." That's probably why I enjoy the 80s up to the mid 90s so much - it's strong personalities & large characters presented as realistically as possible (well, most times, but that's another debate). But yeah, like I said, I'm a huge fan of Gus, just keep doin' what you're doin brah, don't sweat this loss because everyone loses eventually. And let's give some credit to Nick Riot too (who's probably read this thread and ran away to RoughKut to see who's hiring), he's a pretty interesting character and can really have a future here IMO. Forum Culture: I'm gonna get in trouble for this one, but I think this is a talk we have to have. I dreaded this thread yesterday, but you know what? I love this thread now. I love reading people getting mad and questioning authority here. BECAUSE WE DON'T DO IT ENOUGH! I mean, I don't want shitstorms for the sake of shitstorms. I don't want our feedback threads to be like how they were in the early and mid 2000s when we all went Lord of the Flies on eachother at the smallest things. But you know what's great about conflict? We get to find out what hills people are willing to die on. And I just feel like we're going in the opposite direction. I'm always very grateful for the positive feedback I get for my work, but honestly? It's not making me a better writer. I need negative feedback! Negative feedback makes me better! Honestly, I was mad when I got my character feedback PM from Sid because the judges love me, and I just thought "Come on, you guys can't love EVERYTHING I write. Help me out here!" I think one of the problems we have in the fed - and I'm judging strictly by what I'm seeing on the boards and the threads I read - we're only talking about what we have in common. We're only talking about what we like. And then one day - BOOM! - somebody bites their tongue until it bleeds and they go off the handle and they textually rip someone apart. I get why, nobody wants to look like a troublemaker. Nobody wants to look like a shit-stirrer. But we're all friends here, aren't we? Or we're at least civil enough to work together? Fuck, half the fed's been working together in one capacity or another for over a DECADE! I'll just say this - a friend will praise your work, a real friend will criticize it and not care how it looks to the rest of the board. "Oh, but this person doesn't want to be critisized. This person doesn't take negative feedback well." Look, one thing I have not taken for granted is that FIW has been around long enough to have a fucking HALL OF FAME. A lot of feds half halls of fame or whatever, but we've been around since 2003! E-feds don't last that long! But we have a Hall of Fame, and there are, right now, only two roleplayers in the entire history of this e-fed are in it - Me and Wiggum. Only one of us actively roleplays still - me (and I was voted in by everyone here, which is something I'll be eternally grateful for). I've got the Hall of Fame graphic, if there's ANYONE in this fed who should be resting on their laurels and not giving a shit if anyone likes their work or not, it's me. But I don't - I'm still asking for feedback, I'm still looking for ways to get better. And if I'M still doing that, then who the fuck is anyone to say they don't want or need feedback just because it might hurt some feelings? So look, let's just be more open and honest with eachother. And if you're afraid to hurt feelings or hurt a relationship, then put it out the most constructive way you possibly can. There are websites and resources out there that I'm sure can teach you how to properly word things. And hey, I'll admit it too, I'm guilty of this shit as well. I'll say it now - I was afraid to critique Bleak's matches when he was writing for the Lucas/Cody/Psycho Dragon storyline. I was afraid because I thought "if I say what I think, he's not going to write my matches anymore and nobody will take my matches until Monday and I'll feel like a burden." That's why I don't like having my characters booked all the time, knowing what the writer situation here is. So Bleak (and this isn't a Bleak problem, this is fedwide), here is my honest critique that I should've given a long time ago - Chip Martin needs to quit commentating while he's jacking off. I hate Chip Martin SO MUCH. He has no credibility. He's not funny. He adds nothing of value. I want him to go away. And I'm not blaming the people who write him the way they do - you guys are writing him the right way. The right way is just very, very painful to read. And I think he either needs a character overhaul or just gets replaced completely. In 2015, I just can't suspend my disbelief enough to read a color commentator who is sexist, vulgar and just as stupid as he is. And I write a wizard-warlock-telekinetic-cowboy FFS! Sid: I like Sid. He lets me do whatever I want, so I can't rag on the guy. But if you're not happy with of the booking - whether it's your character or someone else's - TALK TO HIM. TELL HIM! We are writers, but we are also fans. And his job as head booker is the same as any head booker, whether it be real life or an e-fed, and that's to give people what they want and to do it in a fun and creative way. Are we going to get EVERYTHING we want from him? No. In a fed with 30 or 40 something characters and 15-20 handlers, not everyone is going to get everything they want all the time. It's just not possible. And like I said before, he doesn't have an easy job, and in the last election for fedhead we had, only he and Billy ran and Billy got Walter Mondale'd pretty damn hard. We all (except for Seph - thank you for the correction) voted for Sid. So when he makes an unpopular decision, please put the pitchforks and torches down and let him explain himself. And then also ask yourself this - "Is the conflict I have with Sid's judging (whether it be this situation with Nate and Mun or any other time) really worth a World War 3 type arguement?" I do this in my own marriage with my wife who I've been with for 5 years, married for 3. If I have a conflict with her, I stop and ask myself "Is [blank] worth World War 3?" and 99% of the time it's not and I just move on with my day. Remember what we are doing here - we are roleplaying professional wrestlers. We're practically at the bottom of the totem pole of nerdery and dorkdom (and I say that kindly and with respect). ![]() In closing: I don't think I made any sense. This is why I never talk anymore. I just want us all to hug eachother, to love eachother and to be friends. We don't always have to like eachother's work. We don't always have to like every decision our authority makes. But let's just remember we're a community. We're friends. And that's good, isn't it? Now let's sing a song. [dohtml]<iframe width="420" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/YGU8_9UuSM4?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>[/dohtml] And when we're done, let's sing this one next. [dohtml]<iframe width="420" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/CD-E-LDc384?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>[/dohtml] Thank you. I love you. Good night. |
[align=center] [/align][size0]Thanks, Lita! ![]() <center><select style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 8pt; background-color: cc3300; font-weight: bold; color:black"> <option style="color:black">THE ROUGAROU</option> <option> Name: </option> <option>"The Rougarou" Silas Bergeron</option> <option>Height:</option> <option>6'6"</option> <option>Weight:</option> <option>296 lbs.</option> <option>Hometown:</option> <option>The Bayou</option> <option>Entrance Music:</option> <option>Led Zeppelin - 'When The Levee Breaks'</option> <option>Wrestling Style:</option> <option>Methodical Powerhouse</option> <option>Signature Moves:</option> <option> - Sword of Damocles </option> <option> - Chokeslam </option> <option> - Bayou Leg Sweep </option> <option>Finishing Moves:</option> <option> - Swamp Drop Brainbuster</option> <option> - Honey Island Swamp Lock </option> <option>Title History:</option> <option> - 1x Fighting Spirit Champion</option> <option>Other Cool Stuff:</option> <option> - 2014 1st Runner Up, FIW Roleplay of the Year (Family Reunion)</option> <option> - 2014 FIW Segment of the Year (The Rougarou Cometh)</option> <option> - 2014 1st Runner Up, FIW Feud of the Year (vs. Mr. GEIST/Deacon DEATH)</option> <option> - 2014 FIW Duo of the Year (w/ Butch Babineaux)</option> <option> - 2014 1st Runner Up, FIW Newcomer of the Year</option> <option> - 2014 & 2015 FIW Manager of the Year (Butch Babineaux)</option> <option> </option> <option> Now do you believe in The Rougarou? </option> </select></center> <center><select style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 8pt; background-color: cadetblue; font-weight: bold; color:black"> <option style="color:black">#SWAGOLITION</option> <option> Name: </option> <option>"The Condemned" Lucas Bergeron</option> <option>Height:</option> <option>6'4½"</option> <option>Weight:</option> <option>235 lbs.</option> <option>Hometown:</option> <option>Kandiyohi, Minnesota</option> <option>Entrance Music:</option> <option>Black Sabbath - 'Hole in the Sky'</option> <option>Wrestling Style:</option> <option>Athletic - Strong Style - Brawler</option> <option>Signature Moves:</option> <option> - Exploder Suplex </option> <option> - Powerbomb </option> <option> - German Suplex </option> <option>Finishing Moves:</option> <option> - The Manhattan Project</option> <option> - Honey Island Swamp Lock </option> <option>Title History:</option> <option> - n/a </option> <option>Other Cool Stuff:</option> <option> - 2015 FIW ReVolt Match of the Year (vs. Nemesis, 6/6/15)</option> <option> - 2015 FIW Feud of the Year (vs. Nemesis)</option> <option> - 2015 FIW Babyface of the Year</option> <option> - 2015 FIW Duo of the Year (w/ The Rougarou)</option> <option> </option> <option> Just Give The Lunatic A Chance... </option> </select></center> <center><select style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 8pt; background-color: 14b8ff; font-weight: bold; color:black"> <option style="color:black">THE MAN IN BLACK</option> <option> Name: </option> <option>Jim O'Brien </option> <option>Height:</option> <option>6'7"</option> <option>Weight:</option> <option>290 lbs.</option> <option>Hometown:</option> <option>Grant's Lick, Kentucky</option> <option>Entrance Music:</option> <option>Motörhead - 'Line in the Sand'</option> <option>Wrestling Style:</option> <option>Strong Style Powerhouse</option> <option>Signature Moves:</option> <option> - Belly-to-Belly Suplex</option> <option> - Saito Suplex </option> <option> - Jackknife Powerbomb </option> <option> - Hells Bells-plex</option> <option>Finishing Moves:</option> <option> - Hells Bells</option> <option> - F-Bomb</option> <option>Title History:</option> <option> - 2x Fighting Spirit Champion </option> <option> - 1x co-holder of the FIW Tag Team Championships of the World (w/ Jorge O'Brien)</option> <option> - 1x Ultimate Endurance Champion</option> <option> - 1x Spirit Of Honour Champion</option> <option> - 3x Dual Crown Champion</option> <option> Other Cool Stuff: </option> <option> - 2015 FIW Hall of Fame inductee</option> <option> - 2004 TNT Superstar Of The Year</option> <option> - 2004 Feud Of The Year (w/ Silent Rage)</option> <option> - 2004 Match Of The Year participant (vs. Silent Rage @ FIW Genocide) <option> - 2005 1st Runner-Up, TNT Superstar Of The Year</option> <option> - 2005 Co-Match Of The Year participant (vs. Silent Rage @ FIW Anarchy In The UK)</option> <option> - 2008 & 2012 Lady Luck Tournament Champion </option> <option> - 2008 Grand Prix Tournament Champion</option> <option> - 2008 Match of the Year participant (vs. Liam Mortell vs. Kiyoshi Nakahata @ FIW Summer of Sin) </option> <option> - 2008 1st Runner-Up, FIW Feud of the Year participant (vs. Ash Koopa)</option> <option> - 2008 1st Runner-Up, FIW (Face/Heel/Tweener) Turn of the Year</option> <option> - 2009 ReVolt Match Of The Year participant (vs. Ethan Adams @ ReVolt Against The Champions X)</option> <option> - 2009 FIW Tag Team Of The Year (The O'Brien Clan, w/ Jorge O'Brien)</option> <option> - 2009 FIW Duo Of The Year (w/ Kendra O'Brien)</option> <option> - April 2012 Superstar of the Month</option> <option> - April 2012 Storyline of the Month ("Dirty Deeds...")</option> <option> - May 2012 Superstar of the Month</option> <option> - May 2012 Match of the Month participant (vs. Damien Holburn @ FIW Deadlock)</option> <option> - July 2012 Co-Match of the Month participant (vs. Mad Dawg @ FIW ReVolt (07/01/12)</option> <option> </option> <option> So yeah, Jim was awesome. :-D </option> </select></center> | |
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| Lita Maivia | Dec 3 2015, 04:46 PM Post #35 |
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I would like some positive feedback. I wish the judging critique I got was that people loved me.
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| Dai | Dec 3 2015, 04:53 PM Post #36 |
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¬_¬ Re: commentators: agreed; although Chip as a stupid, sexist pig is pretty easy to fall back on when you want to fill out your match. [Says Dai like he's written a full match in the last five years. I will say that Chip had a total of two lines in the Hair Toss match, and I kept it to all snarky Hitchen.] Still, it's getting beyond the point where it's still funny. |
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| Lita Maivia | Dec 3 2015, 05:03 PM Post #37 |
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I was mostly being funny. My feedback was pretty damn good, I gotta admit. There were critiques though which means Jim > Lita but we knew that. Lol. I appreciate the feedback tons, Dai. It was glowing and it made me feel all warm and fuzzy inside. I took a gamble with the Sharks and spent a lot of time on them this week to grow them as characters. I appreciate the feedback on them so much. ![]() |
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| Sidewinder | Dec 3 2015, 05:33 PM Post #38 |
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Half of what I thought to say was taken by Wighty and Jim. So, go read their replies. They'll likely be better written than mine will be.
Wighty already went over this, but yeah. Any title match can have the title change hands. I'm a big defender of that, dating back to Steve's reign as GM. Like I told him once, what is the point of a title match if the title can't change hands? Obvious storylined title matches that both parties agreed upon beforehand aside. I feel like people sometimes get too caught up in the mentality of "Okay, I HAVE to make this reign big and epic! It's all been for nothing if it's not a monster reign!" But it's not realistic from a game mechanic standpoint. Even the best writer is always going to have an off week, or have something that doesn't quite hit right occasionally. The more important thing to me isn't the reign itself. It's what you do after that reign. Since this is the topic of conversation, what will Nathaniel Alexander do after this? If he ended up never holding the DC again, then yeah, it's a little lack luster of a run at the top for him. If he holds the title several more times with memorable moments with each reign? Well... Because of our generation, I'll use this example, look at Austin and Rock. Overall their reigns as champion weren't super long or epic by any stretch of the imagination. But are they memorable, do people not look back on both of them as some of the all time greats of their time? Then look at John Cena, who has had several lengthy reigns as champion.... On the topic of build however...
I feel this misconception of what I was saying correlates with the topic of build. The comment about resting on his laurels was never directly pointed at Nate, but Nathaniel. And, it wasn't my attempt to say Nate was lazy. I respect Nate, and I am grateful for the help he has offered in any shape or form it's taken. It was me saying essentially what Jim said in his lovely post above mine. Mungrel is the man Nathaniel took the Dual Crowns from, he is the man Eversol screwed out of his rematch. He was more or less the third man in the main event scene of Eversol & Alexander last PPV cycle. There is build there, there is history there that could be tapped into. But Nathaniel spoke on none of it. Mungrel did. It felt like Nathaniel, the character, was resting on his laurels because he didn't cut a promo going over what Jim & I have mentioned. I'm not even saying he needed to act like Mungrel was some storied rival for him. It could've been as simple as, to boil it down, 'Okay. I've had a REALLY shitty month and I'm in no mood for your yucking it up, clown. Kneel before your king or die! I am the Dual Crown Champion, and these titles are the most important thing not only in this industry, but to me! I will fucking DIE before you take them from me!" Doesn't have to be EXACTLY in that manner, but I think you can get what I'm saying here. I'm not trying to pick on Nate either. This ties directly into the feedback I gave him in private prior to this about the judges' thoughts and my own. That he needed to find a balance again between what he's been doing lately and the Nathaniel that helped him win the DC in the first place.
I thought this went without being said...but after this situation, I realize this needed to be said. Yes, Lita is my second in command and I greatly appreciate everything she does for this place, because she does do alot. But if you have questions or concerns, come to me. Talk to me. It's why I'm here. I'm the fedhead. I'm never shy to explain myself or explain something if someone asks, but if you don't ask, how am I to know I need to explain anything?
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Don't be too hard on yourself, it just didn't quite hit it's usual mark. If you'd like, hit me up with a PM and I could talk to you further on the topic of feedback. |
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| ratedgdr | Dec 3 2015, 05:49 PM Post #39 |
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As a side note complaining about Chip's ultra-heelishness grating on some nerves: I guess it doesn't affect me much to read because WCWF/FAWA had a similar setup of commentators and when I would write matches, the heel color commentator would be utterly irrational in his work. Just throwing that out there. |
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| Lita Maivia | Dec 3 2015, 05:52 PM Post #40 |
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Chip is preferable as a worthless commentator that just shouts sexist things or degrading remarks in general to get under Hitchen's skin. Honestly, I wouldn't recommend changing him. I apologize to anyone who it annoys, but it's EASY to write. Unless you've got an equally easy character to write in his place, I wouldn't suggest changing him at all. Getting match writers is already hard enough as it is. For example, only one match has already been taken for next week. |
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| Sidewinder | Dec 3 2015, 05:52 PM Post #41 |
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On the topic of Chip, it's why I tend to not write him too vulgar when I write him. I write him more as an idiot man-child that is blatantly irrational with his hate of faces and love of heels. Doing his best with his low intelligence to justify why the heels are always right and the faces are always wrong, even if it contradicts. Based on his bio when I read it, that's how I always took him. The male equivalent of a vapid airhead. |
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| Digitalwheelin | Dec 3 2015, 07:29 PM Post #42 |
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I'm gonna be posting full feedback a little later, but I just thought I should post this now. I'm probably the only one on the board (save for Kyle and Marc, near as I can tell) who hasn't weighed in on the subject of the main event. I was honestly unsure whether or not I even should weigh in on the subject because it involves one of my characters. I've talked to a couple people privately about the whole thing with the main event, and in those conversations, I mentioned I wasn't sure if I should weigh in cause I didn't want to seem like that guy; I don't want to seem like the kind of person who is "a mark for themselves" as they say, cause that's just not me. So, I just wanna preface what I'm about to say with that and also by saying I don't mean any offense to anybody in what I say here. That being said, I can't help but to be in the camp that disagrees with the result of the match. And it's not because I lost; I'd disagree with the result of the match no matter who would be in my position, and even if the roles were switched. That's the honest-to-god truth. There are a few reasons why I don't agree with it. For one, the title change happened on a ReVolt show and not a PPV or RATC. I could understand if it happened in one of those shows, but it was our equivalent to RAW or Smackdown. That doesn't make much sense to me. On top of that, there was no build up to it at all. If there had been build-up to the match happening and Mungrel got the win, I would have been perfectly fine with that. Wight, you said every title match is a match where you can lose your title, and I totally get that, and I'm sure Bleak does too (since his was the post you quoted), but the issue isn't that the title changed hands. Obviously that's bound to happen. The issue is that the title match popped up without any build up to it. When Sid mentioned to me that the title match was going to happen, I assumed there'd be SOME sort of hype for it ahead of time to make it mean something more so that I could then write some RP's to help build it up even more. I would have done that in a heartbeat. But it just randomly showed up on a card without any sort of buildup or any mention of it at all. Yes, it was known before that Mungrel got the chance for a rematch, but after said opportunity, it was never mentioned again. On top of that, the match was booked the same week of Thanksgiving. Sure, it may not seem like THAT big a deal, but it was a busy week for me personally. And it seems to have been for 90% of those from the States that celebrate it judging by the low turnout for RP's for the cycle. So, I kind of felt like it was a bit of a disadvantage, but I rolled with it anyway. In Sid's defense, I knew in advance that the match was taking place because he had mentioned to me that that was one of the things set up as far as plans for Nathaniel and for the DC title. What I didn't know was exactly when it would take place, again, otherwise I would have posted some RP's to put it over and hype it up. Also, I can't help but feel like I can't win for losing. I recently got some feedback about my character and me as a handler that I pretty much took in stride and used in this cycle of RP's. The feedback I was given is that Nathaniel doesn't directly mention his opponents and that he never goes into a match looking like he really cares enough to want to win. So, I tried to do that this cycle and it seemingly still wasn't enough. As I mentioned to Sid privately, I've been actively having Nathaniel show two different sides to his personality; 1.) that he genuinely doesn't care about his opponents because he's the champion. He's at the top of the mountain and there's no need to worry anymore. 2.) Once the whole ordeal with Kim happened, it wasn't that he was lovesick over her at all. He wasn't lovesick by any stretch of the imagination. The fact is he was lost without her. Kim has always been there for him no matter what happens; she's always at ringside, she's always doing what she can to help him in his matches (because she's a heel like he is) and she's always there doing things for him. Well, then he goes and fucks up and loses her. Somewhere along the line, he put all his confidence in her and he let it go from himself because he figured "she'll always help me, I don't need to worry about it" and then BOOM it's all taken away from him, and worse than that, HE was the one that fucked it all up for himself. That "resting on his laurels" RP was supposed to be a feigned show of confidence that he could get the job done, even though deep down he wasn't feeling it. I just didn't get the chance to post another RP up to support that whole idea. So, to a degree, maybe this title loss was a blessing in disguise because it helps push that forward. I still think it should have happened on a bigger stage. Anyway, the point is, Jim, I know I said to you once that I was going for that Tully/HHH style, and I still am. But I'm also not trying to stay with that forever; I do want to develop the character into a different direction and different demeanor from time to time when the story calls for it, which I felt was the case here. Yes, he is those things you mentioned "Nathaniel Alexander is a six and a half foot tall, 300 pound wrecking machine with a borderline genius IQ," but when it comes down to it, he's also human. Yes, he's a professional wrestler, but that doesn't make him a machine in the literal sense. So, he is going to be vulnerable and shaken from time to time when the story calls for it. That's just the way I write; characters need to develop, they can't stick to one mold forever. Similarly, I don't agree with the assertion that things need to always be black and white when it comes to the heel/face divide. Shades of gray are always good, just as long as there aren't 50 of them. (ba-dum tsss). On the subject of RP'ing late in the cycle, I openly admit I did that with Kellyn for the cycle. I won't be doing that for the current cycle we're in now (or any future cycle for that matter as long as I can help it) for either Kellyn or Nathaniel, but last week was unavoidable for me. That said, I don't agree with some of the justification it was given in this thread. If it's unavoidable for a handler to do it, fine. It happens, I get it. It happened to me. But when it becomes a habit or a constant without a valid reason, I don't think that should be or could be justified. That's just me, though. And I'm not singling anybody out with saying this (because I know it was mistakenly brought up about Mun), I mean that across the board for all of us here, myself included. To me, justifying it when it becomes a habit does a disservice to everybody involved. That's everything I can think of at the moment as far as responding to what's been said in this thread so far. If I have more, I'll post it later. I'll also post actual feedback for the show later as well, but suffice it to say I did read a majority of it so far and I really enjoyed it. Awesome stuff heading into the go-home show to Deadlock. Oh, and on the subject of Chip, I really like the way he's portrayed as a pervy, sexist asshole who purposely tries to get under Jonathan's skin and has horrible logic in defending heels and antagonizing babyfaces. I don't think he should change at all. |
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Ahh, see, this guy gets it! He knows how to lead. >.> <.<
Chip is often the easiest thing to write in matches. I always kind of took him as a guy that knew what he was doing at the desk, but probably just didn't take it too seriously, possibly because he knew he was irreplaceable in some manner or a guarantee in his contract or whatever. But yeah, the sexism, while just plain who he is, I always liked playing off the same way any of his other antics were, just intended to get under Jon's skin. I fondly remember a La Lesbiana v. Krychek match where I purposely went through having Chip trying to make everything Jon said into something dirty. Culminating in one of my favorite exchanges: "She torqued her knee!" "Ah... Ooh, that's a toughie. I'd uh... I'd like to torque...her knee..." "..." "You didn't give me much to go off of there." I do get the over the topness of him can wear thin for some though. |
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| Minister Wighty | Dec 3 2015, 08:42 PM Post #44 |
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This topic is some heavy shit, man. Really getting into the e-fedding science, though, I like it. Since we're listing pedigrees, and for the sake of perhaps people understanding why I feel I have insight on the subject, allow me to list mine; like Jim and Lita I am one of the few remaining "old guard". I joined maybe a week after Lita did, back when FIW was still on EZboards. I'd like to think the only reason I'm not hall of fame status is that in my tenure I've possessed an infinite capacity to be an asshole, a natural talent for being a drama queen, and some of the shittiest circumstantial luck to strike a fed-head. The first time I got in charge of FIW my first wife left me not a few weeks after, so I had to hand the reigns over to a friend. For some stupid reason we decided I'd still pretend I was the fedhead even though he was running literally everything. So it was almost constantly what Lita has been going through this week; people asking me why certain calls were made and me not knowing what to say because I couldn't fathom the reason Oni was making them. The second time I managed to take charge of FIW... well, it wasn't FIW. Not the FIW I grew up with, and not the FIW it is today. There's nothing wrong with what it was; it just wasn't a fed I ever should've been in charge of. Sarah Twilight didn't help matters. I've also entered the tenth year of my current relationship. We've been married since 2008 and living together since long before that. I know fights. I know fits. I know crazy. I also know talking it out, working together, compromising, and how to have a conversation with someone. I also ran NGIW off-and-on for ten years. I know we all like to joke about how it starts up and stops a bunch, but more of that was concurrent than you think, and a few of those breaks were a lot shorter than you may remember. I'm not going to pretend there weren't periods where 'Mo and Lita weren't my rock back in the early days, and for about half a year near the end I had Lita, Nir, Dai, and The Boy helping me with things as sort of... an experiment. But for the lion's share of that fed's life I did it as a one-man show. I had people who helped with graphics and maintenance, and I had a few folks around to judge matches if I was concerned about my own biases... or more accurately concerned OTHER people might think I was being biased. But in the end, I made the calls, I built the stories, I decided the card. I dealt with the drama. O, the drama. So, with that out of the way here's the biggest thing I've learned in all my years of dealing with people; perspective. The next time you lose a match, sit back and ask YOURSELF why that might be instead of fuming, waiting around for your demanded answers that are NEVER going to live up to your expectations. The next time you see a piece of booking you think is shoddy, ask yourself WHY it might be there. Let me clue you into the priorities of a fedhead, or at least MY priorities. Others might shift around a bit, but this is the general gist of it; 1. Tell good stories. 2. Keep up continuity. 3. Keep things varied. 4. Get everyone on the card who wants to be there. 1 is the tough one, but 2 isn't hard either; it's mostly bookkeeping. Who has a title shot? Who hates who? If I book these guys together should I book them against a real team or do they have a rivalry so they should be booked against another 'nightmare' tag team? What things do I need to get done by what time? Are there step-by-step storylines I need to consider, to book specific matches for? Etc. etc. One might think 3 is easy, but it... it isn't, always. Sometimes you have a small pool of people to draw from. Sometimes people play the same character for five years and they've already fought everyone at the top. Think of how stagnant certain matches in WWE are; John Cena vs. Randy Orton springs to mind. Big Show doing goddamn anything. We've seen it. It's been done. TO DEATH. But these guys are still around so you gotta book 'em doing... something... and it's probably not right to feed Adam Rose to John Cena every week, so... back to Orton it is. Sometimes, you just shake shit up for the sake of shaking it up. 'Have Lita and Seph worked together lately? No? Tight. Let's make it happen.' 'I wonder how 10/31 would react to facing Lucas and Anastasia Grimm? Let's do it!' so on and so forth. I can speak from experience that fighting the same person week in week out gets FUCKING BORING to act out, and I'm sure it's not exactly a thrillride to read, so usually you'll want to see things tweaked with. It doesn't always make sense for storyline purposes, but we're past that now. We're past the top-priority, living-the-dream shit and we're into the nitty-gritty I-have-to-do-this-or-I'll-go-mad shit. The key to that principle is number 4. I can't tell you the number of times I finished a PRISTINE fucking card and went 'FUCK! I forgot so-and-so!" So I'd have to wedge 'em somewhere, or pull an extra character out and give 'em a one-off whatever match. So, sometimes that PERFECT triple threat to build heat for the PPV between the contenders for the title becomes a fatal four-way because so-and-so is high up on the card and needs something to do and you're only gonna have so many writers for matches and you can't take on ANOTHER one and so-and-so's handler will throw a fit if they're not booked and-- fuck it. There. They're in the match. Whatever. It's done. Card's posted. So let's apply this logic to the Mungrel situation. Right now we've got... 1. Storylines. Billy's doing his big reveal tonight, but that doesn't require anything specific to be booked. 2. Maintenance. Mungrel has this title shot that needs to be cashed in BEFORE Deadlock because AT Deadlock Krychek is cashing in HIS title shot, and Mun's shot expires at Deadlock. Sure, we could just let it expire... but that's really fucking lame and boring and takes prestige and credibility away from the DC. 3 and 4 don't really enter in here, thankfully, but this pretty much sums up a valid reason for why this Mungrel v Nathaniel match had to happen not-on-a-PPV. And that's a guess. That's me applying my knowledge of how a fed is run and trying to think from Sid's perspective on getting the shit he needs to get done taken care of. Am I right? Fuck if I know. But even if I don't like the booking I can walk away from the situation going 'oh, OK. I get it.' The same logic applies to when a judging doesn't go in you favor. Sit back and think 'why might the judges have decided this?' instead of flipping the fuck out. I'm not picking on anybody here, the timing of this situation and the open way in which we're all talking just makes me feel like this is something we can talk about right now. There have been plenty of times where everyone in this fed has shit their pants over a result over the years. ASK yourself why they might've picked your opponent to win over you. Let me give you another two pro tips to help you come to a conclusion with that; 1. The answer is never 'There's a conspiracy!' 2. If the match seems close, there probably isn't a concrete reason. When I call a tough match it usually comes down to "I really dug this guy's vibe more" or "I liked them both, but overall I preferred THIS." As frustrating as it is, we often don't have feedback for you on these situations. What feedback we can give you are nuggets kicking around in our brains or shit we find in the corners that can be assembled into something resembling a valid take-away. "So-and-so RPed earlier. The opponent had good counter-points. It really made me laugh." That doesn't mean you need to make sure your first RP is always on Tuesday, full of comedy, and you're prepared to rip your opponent a new one when they DO post. That's just... all we've got that's intelligent. We want to give you workable feedback and not just "I dunno, it was better." But a lot of times the reason overwhelmingly IS "I dunno, it was better." If Caleb Claudel fights Lucas Bergeron and they both bring their A-game... then... fuck, both people are gonna be doing GREAT! I'm not gonna be able to nitpick who did what wrong to help you win next time. But in the end, somebody's gotta win, so we have to evaluate what we liked more, make a decision, and move on from there. It isn't easy, especially when people are so similarly skilled. If you find a lot of your matches end up being tough calls like this? Good. It means you're roleplaying against opponents of your skill level. Do your best and practice; you will get better, and so will they. This brings me to the last thing I want to address... mostly because I have to go to work soon. I love talking the science of e-fedding. But this is important and it's something I've been seeing enough since my return that I feel it warrants mentioning. The Blessed and Forsaken ladder match was on October 13th. The RP period for this show began on November 24th. That's one month where either Mungrel, Nathaniel, or the booking team could've been building this feud. The booking team obviously had other shit to deal with with those characters... and arguably so did the characters, but there's only SO MUCH room on the card, so if we can't put it on the card the onus of selling a match falls to the wrestlers. At any point during that period, Mun or Nate could've PMed each other and been like 'let's do something for this shot.' Or they could've talked about it more in their roleplays. There could've been off-the-cuff back-and-forth. If what was there wasn't good enough, you can't lay that solely at the feet of the management. For a less raw wound, let me take you back to shortly after Havok was crowned FSC and Cody decided he didn't want the strap; we had a SLEW of contenders for the belt; people hungry for the title who were ready to take it at a moment's notice. They all talked about how much they wanted the FSC, how much they'd fight, die, and bleed for it... literally not ONE of them mentioned Havok. Not even in a throwaway 'that clown who holds it' line. Now I forget exactly when this happened. I wanna say it was the B&F ladder match just because of all the people who wanted the FSC there, but I might be wrong and I don't feel like checking dates to prove it. It's immaterial. What matters is that any of those wrestlers could've planeted the seeds to start a feud with Havok for his Fighting Spirit Championship... and they didn't. This is a situation in which management gave them all the tools they needed... a situation where, in WWE or WCW or NWA or anywhere else... the guys working the promo would talk about how they'd eventually get to face the title holder for their title... but nobody did. YOU have to put forth effort to ENGAGE your feuds and storylines, otherwise they're not gonna work. Cage Murdock and Havok fought ONCE and I remember it as one of the best back-and-forths I've had since I got back. Because Seph ENGAGED me. He set up a situation for me to play off of, and I continued to feed him stuff for HIM to play off of. Standing in a corner talking about how great you are, or how sad you are, or working your own storyline that doesn't involve anybody else isn't the path to victory in an e-fed. It's working TOGETHER. Yes, we can step back and point out places where that TOTALLY wasn't the case. But I can say for a fact that the reason I read Jim's AMAZING Anastasia Grimm promo wasn't because I liked the character aesthetically so I just decided to go see what she's about; it's because we had a fun interaction at the Hallowe'en party that made me feel connected to the character so I wanted to keep up with what she was doing. The reason Seph was approached to have Cage work with Tier wasn't just 'cuz "oh, hey, I need a big guy. There's a big guy." It's because of the AMAZING back and forth we had weeks before. Seph and I have had our obvious differences in the past; if you were to tell me I'd be working a long-term friendly angle with him six months ago I'd... ... well, I'd probably be like "oh, cool, we work our shit out in the future, nice." because I tend to go with the flow like that, but it's still surprising, unexpected, and nice to see, dammit. I could've started this angle with the cibernetico not giving a shit about Mad Dawg... and really, why should I? Tier and Mad Dawg have never interacted before, and their ideaologies aren't that different at their core. But instead... Tier wants to break him. He has passion. He has fire. Mad Dawg represents everything that's in his way to the top and he wants to bust through it. I'm trying to SELL this match with, what? Two weeks notice? Three? I DEFINITELY have other shit going on; other, more personal storylines to be working. But I also want the eventual confrontation to go off with a bang. That's all I've got. Be excellent to each other. I gotta go to work. |
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| ratedgdr | Dec 3 2015, 09:12 PM Post #45 |
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It's times like these when I just sit back and continue to add erotic anime/video game fanart to my collection. Because I'm good at that. Unlike my ability to analyze e-fed science. And because I'm a perv. ....I need to go offline for a couple hours so I can get stuff done before I can watch Green Bay kick Detroit's ass tonight. |
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| Lita Maivia | Dec 3 2015, 09:38 PM Post #46 |
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First off, having Caleb Claudel mentioned at all in a solo aspect is fucking awesome for some reason. ![]() Second. I get where you're coming from with no one mentioning Havok when he was champ, but honestly that's a STICKY situation. Specifically when it comes to the Fighting Spirit Championship. Let me take you on a little walk... February 17th 2015 the FSC makes its grand return and Johnny Amazing is pumped because he wants that damn belt more than anything in the world. But Mark Cannon stabs him in the back and wins it because Dan RPed the best damn thing ever like he usually does. That's cool. Great seeds for a feud. Johnny and Mark already have heat. Johnny was screwed over. It's time to crank this story into high gear and Johnny has a legitimate claim to a title! Yes! March 3rd 2015 there's a Fatal 4 Way to crown the legitimate #1 contender and Johnny is involved as he should be. That's continuity! Nope. Erik Holland wins. Maybe that's my fault. Maybe Holland was better. I was told otherwise and that Johnny vs. Mark was set and having Johnny win this match would ruin the build-up for a PPV by having them face off the week before (specifically told Holland going over was not a slight on my work but Johnny already has a guaranteed shot lined up due to the heat between he and Mark). Now, it's possible that feedback was just meant to be polite and Holland may have been the better man that week which negates my whole point but I'm going to continue on. Holland vs. Mark is set for the FSC. I can roll with it. Johnny/Mark is still hot and heavy, but I'll even start setting some heat up between Johnny and Holland. Johnny gives him attitude for "stealing his spot" but they sort their shit and Holland promises Johnny first crack if he stays out of his way and Johnny promises not to ruin his chance but will be there to make sure Holland doesn't go too far with Mark. You see, Johnny owes Mark pain and he'll be damned if Holland steals the belt AND his retribution in the same night. March 10th 2015 Mark defends the FSC against Holland and loses because Will posts a face-meltingly awesome roleplay that breaks the internet. Mark is no longer FSC but it's OK. I've already set shit up with Holland so Johnny can still progress into that promised title match with an actual story in place! March 30th 2015 Johnny has to settle shit with Mark. Scott Knight needs a spot on the card so he gets an FSC match against Holland. Suddenly Johnny is tag teaming with Mark in a freak storm of awesomeness because the tag title scene needs re-ignited and Quincy is suddenly contending for the FSC. By June 2nd, we have another new champion. That's cool. Johnny is a reluctant member of the Summit because Mark wants to be in it so bad and Johnny doesn't trust Quincy. Look at this shit writing itself! Johnny still has heat with the current FSC. Rather than go straight after the champion (because there's a shaky loyalty there that threatens to break with every promo), Johnny guns after the former champ because he's a liar and now a loser. What does this do? It puts the current champ on notice because fuck it Johnny still wants that belt! Quincy knows this more than ever now but I haven't crushed the story between the two of them by having Johnny lay out his employer. July 28th 2015 Cody McGinnis wins the FSC. But that's OK too! Johnny is friends with Cody and Quincy beat the shit out of him just because he thought it would be funny. Johnny feels bad but keeps his mouth shut because he's slightly intimidated by Quincy and his crew. That's shit between Johnny and Cody. T and I use that and have an awesome confrontation leading to a non-title singles match that... leads to TIER winning the title on September 8th 2015. The moral of the story here is this. It's nearly IMPOSSIBLE to build a feud with a champion unless it is directly on the fedhead's radar, ESPECIALLY in the Fighting Spirit division where defenses are far too regular. It's a lot of exhausting work and DISAPPOINTMENT. Trust me, I know. In five months there were 5 different champions and I tried to start shit with all but the last. Though, to be fair, I did come to Wight privately and asked if he had any ideas for a Tier/Johnny feud following his feud with Jimmy Steel. But we never did come up with anything and it ultimately didn't matter with the FSC because Richlen picked it up shortly after. tl;dr I started my own feuds with four out of five Fighting Spirit Champions and have yet to have a single FSC match despite this. So yeah, that's a bit of a long rant and I'm not complaining to anybody about it. I'm not looking for apologies from anyone or anything like that. I am simply pointing out how leaving it in the hands of the roleplayers to build their own feuds doesn't always pan out. Hell, in five months it only panned out for me with ONE out of five. Those are some depressing odds. |
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| Minister Wighty | Dec 3 2015, 09:50 PM Post #47 |
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That is a shitty series of circumstances. |
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| Clockman89 | Dec 3 2015, 10:01 PM Post #48 |
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When I lose a match and I don't understand why I lost... I go to the fed-head and |
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| Kyle | Dec 3 2015, 10:48 PM Post #49 |
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My mind is blown by the sheer amount of passion and feedback displayed in this thread, but I'll post my full feedback soon. |
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| Lita Maivia | Dec 4 2015, 12:38 AM Post #50 |
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I feel like this has been lost in this feedback thread and it's kind of a staple of all feedback threads. I love Keith Williams.
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While you're at it, piss off my 2009 bitch self.






Also, and I know I've said this before too, but your 2009 self frightened me. 


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6:51 PM Jul 11