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| Summer of Sin Feedback; The Biggest Event of the Summer! | |
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| Craig | Jul 22 2016, 09:31 PM Post #1 |
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Feedback, feedback, feedback. Matches: Dai, Lita, myself, Steve. Promos: Lita, Steve, Dai, Wight, Sticky, Nate, Otaku, myself. Graphics: Lita Other Assistance: Nate & Rob This 10/11 day schedule does not lend itself to fully-written pay-per-views, I can tell you! I yearn for the days of two whole weeks. I’ll give some rough feedback on the matches without many spoilers, but I would like to do a big roster feedback over the weekend. I’m happy to discuss any results individually, I won’t go into specifics but pass on some generalised comments although I would just like to point to the lines in the rules post about winning and losing should be read and digested. Stella vs. Dee Dee: Welcome to two new Hellcats, it was added to the card fairly late so I’m hoping that Stella’s handler just missed that. Breakthrough 10-Way: As much as I enjoy writing these matches, having to know where everybody is and how fresh they should be, I recognise it’s tough on the participants. Only 1 guy can win and 1 guy loses. This match more than any was born out of the troubles we had about a month ago, we should have had Zombie Black vs. Mad Dawg and as a result, this match was created to fill that space. It shouldn’t be a regular thing, the idea is to branch off into individual rivalries and have them featured on the pay-per-views but there’s only so much space on the card so it should be considered an honour. Vi vs. Shaelin: Deservedly moved to the main card, which was originally more a result of concerns about the number of writers available rather than a reflection on the characters. It was a close call, could really have gone either way and was a split decision. Fighting Spirit: Shame regarding Pain’s status, but thank you for letting us know in advance. I’ve got in my mind somewhere that Matt did say he would struggle this week roleplaying as he was away for a large portion of it so he was never going to be able to reach the heights of the previous week’s efforts. Having said that, Gustav continues to be one of the more consistent characters on the roster and fully deserving of another run. Tag Team: The Termico series has been really fun to work our way through, I don’t think anybody would have predicted where we ended up after the start we had with the Coulter Crew. International: If anybody has missed that, we have now dropped the ‘Undisputed’ part. To my mind the last time it was disputed was when Tomoko Onamari returned from an absence having never lost the title, which must be many many years ago. (Craig Note: I write this before reading the match itself, where this is explained!) Sorry to see Nathaniel go, he does have some very good reasons though so I won’t hold it against him. Johnny, much like Gustav, is one of the most consistently written characters, Lita really does have a good grasp on him. Dual Crown: The most difficult match to judge, it became a question of whether the Breakthrough winner had done enough to dethrone Mad Dawg. One judge said yes, the other said no. I agonised about it overnight and came to the decision which features. It was a tough ask on Marc but he answered pretty well. Hellcats: Yet another difficult decision, which was split. I know there will be disappointment but I can’t say enough about the quality of roleplays. There’s a connection between the characters and I also include Vi in that, despite them being very different and the roleplays highlighted that. It’s been a fun ride to get to this main event, thank you to Dai and Lits. More to come with individual feedback over the weekend. Thoughts on the PPV? |
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| MrOtaku2399 | Jul 22 2016, 09:43 PM Post #2 |
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I liked all the spots in the ten man match.I felt like they were all good and if it was a real match it would of been very fun and interesting.The whole card was good and full of surprises.Everyone who had part of the card its self good job! |
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| Minister Wighty | Jul 22 2016, 10:07 PM Post #3 |
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*sighs* Uh... spoilers, I guess. The show was good. Tremendous effort to all involved, great matches, great promos. Glad to see so many people working together, especially those outside their typical wheelhouses. I can't say I read all of it, but what I did read was good, and I really don't have any arguments with most of the winners. This seemed like a really tough show to call. I even get why I didn't win the ten man. It's discouraging because I put... a titanic amount of effort into doing what I did. I stalked the forums daily. I went without doing other things I would ordinarily do. I typed sick. I worked on this while trying my best to also win a Hellcats match that had far lower stakes. I researched, read, and re-read shit to make sure I wasn't interpreting things wrong... but goddamn, Steve came in like thunder. I said to myself the whole week if someone beat me, it was going to be him. And it was. Fair play to him. It's discouraging because if that's the best I can do and it wasn't good enough, then... I mean, I don't know where I go from here. My character had a good showing in the match, I ain't mad or anything. I have stories I could tell, but fuck. I don't know if have the ability to literally compete here. This is separate from my thoughts on the Dual Crown match. This isn't a slam on Marc or what he wrote or any of that shit. I actually liked his stuff this week. Really felt like he was back to the Mad Dawg I remember from late last year. Maybe I just need to be outside of the perspective of an active booker to appreciate that, I dunno. But whatever. This isn't about Marc, it's not about Mad Dawg, this is about booking, judging, and purpose. I wrote ten roleplays. Eleven if you count the follow-up I did for Diez. They were shorter and I didn't have a lot to work with, so I understand why the decision went to Steve. He had four, and while the first one was a little rocky, his story is stronger. His characterization was stronger, and his shit was just... punchier. Plus the replies he made to my Diez thread were really funny, he put in a lot of effort on FIW Twitter. Marc had two. They were good, but there were only two of them. The first was the day before the deadline. The second was a literal deadline bomb. The first one is late in the week. That's hard to have time to respond to, but whatever. It's fair play. The second should be punished by no means? But it's basically impossible to respond to when his potential opponents are left all of three minutes to read, digest, and write a response promo. Valiant effort from Hayden doing so anyway, but I prefer not to waste my creative energy if I can help it. It baffles me that this isn't more frowned upon, even if you RP previous in the week, because I don't imagine anyone around here is under the impression that deadline bombing is the cool thing to do. It happens, yes. Sometimes the best and most passionate work and hottest back-and-forths come in that last day, sure. Look at Brittany vs. Sakura for an easy recent example. But this isn't that. This is clearly not that. BUT EVEN IF IT WAS. Even if everything Marc did was sunshine and eggs, this is still a broken situation. I've rolled this around in my head a bit trying to figure out how the hell this could happen. I want to rule out ugly things like bias or some kind of chicanery because, really. The vast majority of us are mature, friendly adults here. But as I see it there's a fundamental disconnect in thought that led to this ultimate decision, and I'd like to point it out. I don't want Craig to shoulder the entirety of this by any means, Anonymous Judges, please read the following and understand my consternation. The Scenario: The Breakthrough winner had to pull literal double duty; not only beat the RPs of the other nine men in the match, but also AND SEPARATELY Mad Dawg. Like, in order to secure the Dual Crown here you'd have to earn two tokens. One to win the Breakthrough and one to win the Dual Crown. And once you'd secured the Breakthrough win, most of the effort you put forth was rendered invalid for the Dual Crown win AND you have no idea what of your effort is now rendered invalid. Why That's Shitty: If my writing as much as I did and Steve writing as well as he did weren't enough to secure both victories what the hell would be? Certainly, there is such a thing as champion's advantage. When a match is super close, it's better for your belt to keep it in the hands of the champion. But for that to be employed here it requires so much potential effort on the part of the contender that (as I said above) it's just not a plausible situation. The second match is thus rendered unwinnable. It just becomes a great way to set up your Breakthrough winner for disappointment, not to mention the other nine guys (those of which who roleplayed, anyhow) who now look at the champion and say "well, this is clearly impossible." I suppose there's every chance that the judges just think those two Mad Dawg joints, poorly-timed though they were, were just better than the entirety of what Steve put out. But again, if that's the case? Nobody is ever beating Mad Dawg ever. Ordinarily, here, I wouldn't say anything. Ordinarily I'd take a spoonful of my own medicine and just say to myself "well, you didn't judge the match so you can't really bitch, now can you?" Except that in this specific situation I couldn't judge the match because there was every possibility I was IN the match. Again, to re-iterate, just in case I've pulled a Mjolnir and made my words sound vitriolic; I'm not mad. Not even in the slightest. I'm just baffled as to how this conclusion could have been logically reached given the circumstances. EDIT: I phrased something a bit differently in the paragraph following the summary of Marc's RP efforts to more clearly get across the point I was making. Nothing major; I just hate being misunderstood and wasn't trying to call Marc out for shit. That's not my point at all. EDIT 2: Added a bit to the end of the paragraph that begins with "Scenario:". |
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| Dai | Jul 22 2016, 10:43 PM Post #4 |
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Wow. I have to thank Wight and Lita for all their help. Lita's work with the graphics has been tremendous, and given me so much to work with, and just adds so much to the fed as a whole. This week and a half has been hard work of the best kind. Segments were fun to write, I was aiming for a little comic relief without being silly. Glad they came off as I imagined. Jam Master Jay was robbed. EDIT: I found the Danger Mark related commentary hilarious, but I would. |
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| Lita Maivia | Jul 22 2016, 10:57 PM Post #5 |
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Sorry you lost, Wight. Marc's stuff was great this cycle and congratulations to him. I appreciate the situation that the Breakthrough contestants were in but I hope they can recognize the situation Marc was in as well. For someone who had been working a feud heading into this PPV, have it ripped out from under him, and be thrown into an unpredictable situation where he has to defend his title against 10 different competitors (a large portion of which are new characters with little for Marc to write about) I think he did a sensational job. I voted for him. Sorry to anyone that upsets. EDIT: Thank you, Dai. I had fun making all the graphics for SOS. |
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| Sqweaktoy | Jul 22 2016, 11:17 PM Post #6 |
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Lita, you know I <3 you, but that logic just doesn't check out. Mad Dawg was in a pretty similar position to the contestants themselves re: number of opponents and thier relative newness, and I'm not sure why the unfortunate situation leading up to the show ooc would be factored in as a reason to judge more in Marcs favor. It's certainly unfortunate, but Steve had nothing to do with that situation really, and to have part of his efforts in effect disregarded based on that seems... off to me. I suppose that comes down to if Steve finds it a problem though, so my criticism is mostly academic. |
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| Lita Maivia | Jul 22 2016, 11:35 PM Post #7 |
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I wasn't blaming any of the Breakthrough contestants for Marc's situation. And Marc wasn't in the same position as the Breakthrough contestants. He is an established character with plenty of information to be read up on (one contestant admitted to researching to secure a victory). Marc did not have that same luxury afforded to him. TWO character have been here for longer than two months (one of which is rarely RPed), two characters had been here for approximately two months, three who have been here for roughly a month, two who have been here for less than a month, one who just came back and has a smattering of appearances over the years. I love you too and I love Wight. But I don't like being a judge and this is precisely the reason. I appreciate that everyone has opinions. But don't call me out in a feedback thread telling me that I'm wrong to feel the way I do about a decision I've made. I recall doing this myself once upon a time and almost literally getting ripped to shreds for it. I'm not going to return that favor, but I will politely ask you to respect differing opinions and you are welcome to share yours in a way that supports and helps uplift the board members; all while not making those who did win feel like they didn't deserve it. Thank you. |
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| Minister Wighty | Jul 22 2016, 11:55 PM Post #8 |
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I'm not trying to cause waves. I re-iterate one more time that I'm not mad. I'm not trying to take anything away from Marc, who as I said put out a great effort. I just don't understand how it won this particular match, given this set of circumstances. And if it just comes down to a simple disagreement in taste or ideology or whatever... I don't know how to act or what to do to even touch him. If the efforts put forth here didn't win, then what would have? Why would it have? What's the difference maker? I don't see it, some someone please point it out to me so I can understand what the hell I'm doing and try to move on in an otherwise pleasant day. EDIT: I appreciate that you can't provide that context for me. But surely someone can? And if nobody can, doesn't that say something about this situation? |
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| Rob Storm | Jul 22 2016, 11:58 PM Post #9 |
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Holy cow! So, i read the ppv and I cannot believe how awesome it was! You are all such wonderfully creative people and although I already knew that, this just blew me away. Awesome job everyone! *group hug* |
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| Sqweaktoy | Jul 23 2016, 12:03 AM Post #10 |
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Sorry if I upset, and I can't speak to what happened the past, but I was just pointing out what I felt was a reasoning error as something of a neutral party. I respectfully disagree with your reasoning, but again my point is largely an academic one, as I'm not directly effected by the result in any real way. To be frank though, I rarely post any kind of feedback that isn't "x was good" for concern of precisley the above reaction. I'm a blunt person, I don't mince words when I do give feedback, and I strive to treat others as respectfully but more importantly honestly as Id like to be treated myself. I rarely have anything remotely negative to say, but when I do I have no intention of couching it behind the mask of being warm and fuzzy. If that's unwelcome, I suppose I can take my leave |
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| Dai | Jul 23 2016, 12:45 AM Post #11 |
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I took a pass on my own match (obviously,) and the other Hellcat singles match and even then, this was about the hardest card I've ever tried to call. It was terrible, and I both hate and love you all for putting me through it. |
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| ratedgdr | Jul 23 2016, 01:11 AM Post #12 |
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For the record, I was not a judge for any of these. So my opinion will not be made public. I can always PM them to anyone interested. Other than the last two Shaelin promos were not at all up to my standards, so I am amazed that that was a split decision. |
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| Dai | Jul 23 2016, 01:30 AM Post #13 |
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PS: without wanting to get into that business above, the new rolling news pictures with "SURVIVAL HORROR?!" just cracked me up. Also, that last post in the twitter thread is actually an old picture of me. |
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| Mad Dawg | Jul 23 2016, 01:44 AM Post #14 |
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Well gee, I came in on a high but damn talk about that bubble getting burst real quick. Show was excellent, every match was high quality and had me guessing the whole way. Fighting Spirit match was a downright barn burner, big congrats on Richlen winning the FSC. Alexander vs Amazing was definitely a five star affair. Sad to see Alexander go but what a way for him to go out. Congrats to the Amazing win, I've loved his rise since the beginning and a successful defense just continues his ascension. 10 man match was all over the place, so HUGE kudos to Craig on that undertaking. How he put that together so well I'll never know but it had me on the edge of my seat. Hellcats match was a roller coaster in itself and definitely fitting of that main event slot. Lita put a damn good effort in but Dai proved why he'll always be a beast. I gotta say I'm shocked that Mad Dawg pulled out the victory. I had a rough RP period, I had to work OT the first Saturday and Sunday was my son's birthday party so I didn't get a chance to work on anything until the following weekend. I did what I could to get my first up as quickly as possible and I won't lie cause I was down on myself for not being able to get it out quicker. So I was super happy on Tuesday when I had plenty to respond to. So I get home from work, I'm all ready to put my Shotgun Wedding RP together after I formatted it all day in my head, and find out I have no internet. Call the cable company and they said my equipment may have malfunctioned and they'll send me one in UPS and I'll get it by Thursday. So I spend all night trying to put that final RP together on my phone, fell asleep midway through so I had to spend my breaks and lunches writing because I knew I would have less than 3 hours to finish when I got home. Not trying to give a long sob story or come up with excuses, just saying that it's not like I spent the whole period plotting on how to screw all ten guys out of a win and that I would have been fully understanding if it had cost me. All I'm saying is that it isn't like I'm notorious for that kind of thing, so to use it as a reason to call foul and discredit the judge's decision by nitpicking saying that it means no one can beat Mad Dawg is kinda petty. It was a rough situation for the ten involved, they had to compete against each other and then the winner had to compete against Mad Dawg. But it's not like it was easy on this end either having ten people that he had absolutely no history with, and the vast majority having very little history within FIW to begin with, so it's not like I was at any sort of advantage. Sure in retrospect I mainly had to beat the BTW winner, but not knowing who was winning still meant I had to compete with everyone involved. So I don't know, whatever the decision was, I wasn't going to question it because the judges had a bitch of a time trying to sift through God knows how many RPs to come to their decision. But it doesn't mean I won't still enjoy and be thankful for the win. Not trying to end on a blah note, match was fucking boss and JMJ came out looking like a damn monster. Really looking forward to what comes out of this. EDIT: Just popped into my head, didn't realize Jack had the same music as Mad Dawg. Started reading the match and realized 'holy shit, this isn't my entrance!' LOL
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| NickRiot | Jul 23 2016, 02:04 AM Post #15 |
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Sorry if my RP's seemed...Non-Nick Riot-ish. The reasoning behind my promos was that I wanted to do something that I saw from Jake Roberts. (Don't ask me who he was facing, I can't remember...I just seen it on YouTube.) The whole time he is describing who he's facing with metaphors, rather than directly talking to the person. So I thought I would want to try to recreate that with Nick Riot. I really want to do that more often going forward, but only if the timing is really there. I know it was probably a really, really stupid idea to test it out for a big show no less, but either way I felt like I had to do it just to see if I really liked it. Like MD, the 10 man match had me at the edge of my seat, and for an honest second I thought I was going to win lol. Perhaps constructive criticism, perhaps me being dastardly, however it comes off...I think it would have been better if there were perhaps weapons involved? I don't know, I'm just a sucker for hardcore wrestling But congrats to MD for the retaining, it's been cool to see some form of longevity. One last thing if it's not too much, (And I hope/pray this doesn't come off dickish) I was wondering if at some point Nick Riot could be on one of the posters for a show? Going back to when I was an active fedder back in the day, I've never been on one and thought it would be cool to see? But if not, hey I'm not gonna kick and scream!Edit: *Ahem* the November 4th one looks good
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| ratedgdr | Jul 23 2016, 02:09 AM Post #16 |
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Jake Roberts was a promo LEGEND. I tried channeling him a few times but I don't think I did him justice. |
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| Steve | Jul 23 2016, 02:16 AM Post #17 |
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Let me start off by saying this was a tremendous RP cycle and an amazing show. With that said I've got something to say in regards to all of the thoughts and opinions above. I will try to make it somewhat brief. First I would like to get it out there, that like Wight I am not mad. Am I disappointed? Sure. I really put out a lot of effort this week, despite as many of you know. I work very demanding hours and have A LOT of personal shit on my plate. I use FIW as an outlet or an escape as you will from the shitty, shitty things that have been going on in my life for the past several months (if not longer). One thing I try to remind myself of is that every person here is unique and have their own ideals on how things should happen. From the Fedhead to the judge to the handlers, everyone one is going to have their own opinion on things and how things should play out. There is really nothing that I can really do about that and 9 times out of 10, I'm more than likely not going to agree with the decisions that are made. I've been on all sides of things here in FIW more than one time and I know it is difficult as a fedhead to make the decision that is going to please every person 100% of the time. I also know as a fedhead you pretty much have to count on someone pretty much every RP cycle that isn't going to like how their match panned out. It's the unfortunate side of volunteering your time to run this thing we all come here to have fun with. I have to say that my sentiments pretty much echo, Wights. When I first read all of this it was my initial reaction to reply instantly but I decided I would take a break, run some errands and come back to it when my thoughts were collected properly. Judging: Judging ideally should come down to who RP'd best. But that is so subjective and as I pointed out that everyone here is unique in how they see things in terms of quality when it comes to RPing. I also know as a former fedhead that favortism plays a part in judging not that I'm saying this happened in this particular instance. What I am saying is there are many different factors that play into judging. It is just the nature of the beast. It always has been in my many years here in FIW. Another thing I don't agree with is judging based on tenure. It shouldn't matter if a character is new or old. If you are out RP'd, you are out RP'd. Deadline Bombing: As anyone whom I've ever discussed this with and any fedhead that I've ever judged for can attest. This is one of my biggest peeves. I am fairly vocal about it in my judging and I plain out do not agree with it. When it comes across as malicious! My biggest gripe in this is when a person puts out their sole RP for the week in the final hour of the RP cycle. While I understand for things coming up and life is more important than an e-fed. There are some in this fed that do this consistently. As a former fedhead I also know that tossing in an RP at the very last minute is strategic as it does not allow your opponent an opportunity to reply. FIW is a competitive based e-fed. RPing in this fashion takes away from the competitive nature of the fed and can leave your opponent feeling slighted especially if the person who chose to RP at the final hour takes the decision on the match. I know it can be argued that you are within the deadline set forth but really its a dick move, barring exceptions. I can say from a handler stand point it is very frustrating to see your opponent perusing around the board all week, only for them to toss an RP at the last minute. Fedhead: This isn't an easy job and I'm saying that from first hand knowledge and I'm certain that others that have taken on this role could echo my statements. It is often a thankless job that takes up a good portion of your free time. You are often left to deal with people who want to act like children when things don't go their way and people who want a world of things to happen for a specific show only to not help out in any fashion. Take time to thank your fedhead, take time to help out writing matches, take time to give input on storylines, feuds and the like, and most importantly respect that the fedhead has a life outside of FIW and that they volunteer their time for your enjoyment. Airing of Grievances: As long as this is done in a tactful manner I do not see why this can't be done in a public forum. As I mentioned above we having varying opinions on things and sometime airing your grievances in a public forum, people who are from the outside looking into your situation may be able to bounce things off you that may sway your opinion on the matter. Also as it has been mentioned numerous times over the past year, the majority of us here are adults. I know several people here are over the age of 30, hell even I am pushing 40 (38 not close enough thankfully. ). We should be able to handle ourselves as such and come to a resolve as adults should.So much for brief but on to feedback for the show. I hope my views haven't stepped on anyone's toes or caused anyone to feel that I'm angry about this matter. First off I want to thank Craig for putting this all together and holding the fort down week in and week out. Thank you to all of the writers who contributed to making this show what it was. Thank you to the judges for taking their time to read through all of the RP's and provide the feedback as difficult as that may be sometimes. Finally, thank you to everyone for an amazing RP week. As I've told a few I had so much fun this week and working with several of you really highlighted that fun week. I'm only going to comment on what I've read thus far. If I don't feedback your match please don't take it personally. Something probably came up that prohibited me from doing so. BREAKTHROUGH 10-WAY MATCH In all honesty I was quite shocked that I picked up the win on this one. Please nobody else take as a slight on their ability as RP'ers but I knew Wight was my major competition in this one and I knew that this week I would either have to go hard or go home in terms of RP's. I personally will comment as a judge on this one and say that I judged this match in a, if I wasn't to win this is who I think should. Wight was my choice as he is an uber amazingly talented writer and it clearly showed this week in his RP's. At the end of the week it left me thinking to myself, "Fuck. Did I do enough?". Thank you to those who thought I did, I have to say that I'm flattered that you think I did enough to topple an RP'er that I hold in such high regard. With that said, I would like to put out major props to Nick for a great week of RP'ing and I say this whole heartedly that I believe you a very close runner up to Wight. In regards to the others in the match there were several that put out great performances. Just because I haven't commented directly on your work doesn't mean that I thought less of you but in the long run some are always going to prevail over others. Great job to all of those that were involved in the RP'ing for this match. Again thank you to Craig on a superbly written match and I have to say that for as much of a clusterfuck this match could have been, he handled it quite well and it was a good read all the way through. FIGHTING SPIRIT CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH I have to say that I had an absolute blast writing this match. I really hope that I encapsulated each character as they should be. I really wanted to come up with some creative spots for the match. I have to say my favorite spot was when I had Cody drive Gustav's head into Darian's crotch as he sat on the top turnbuckle. In terms of RP'ing, I think much like Matt did last week, Sticky was on fire this week and was well deserving in his win in becoming the new FSC. Congrats! It's a shame Pain couldn't RP this week and here's to hoping his gets his computer screen repaired quickly. DUAL CROWN CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH Thanks to Craig for writing this match as with the Breakthrough match it was another great read. As I mentioned earlier, I am disappointed I didn't win. I put it all out there in hopes of winning and considering the circumstances of life, I feel like I had a pretty good week. Kudos to Marc on the victory, the RP's he put out were top quality and I had fun battling with Julie on the FIW Twitter. Thank you for the opportunity, hopefully it won't be my last. SEGMENTS Finally, I really enjoyed working with Lita on the promos we did. I had so much fun with them. We wrote two versions of the Kim & Jack aligning promo based on if Jack won the Breakthrough. The beat down on Johnny I feel was played out just how I saw it and hope Lita enjoyed it as much as I did. I also wrote another segment that never made it to pass as...well...I didn't win the Dual Crown. It was what I feel another great add-on to the Manson Paternity saga, but oh well. Maybe I'll save it for when I do win the Dual Crown. I'm gunning for you, Marc! ![]() Edit: I skipped past the entrances in the DC match so I didn't notice the same music as Marc did. I have had some other ideas for entrance music for Jack, so it's no big deal. I can change mine as soon as I find something I'm happy with. |
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| Minister Wighty | Jul 23 2016, 02:48 AM Post #18 |
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I wish I could summon up half the good sportsmanship-style stick-to-itiveness that Steve has. These situations usually leave me feeling defeated in a way I have a hard time recovering from. I don't know how you can pick up and go "oh well, maybe next time". I wish I did, because I'd just employ that instead of bashing my head against Big Match Marc all the time. If it was just competitive it would be one thing. I can accept defeat so long as I understand why I was defeated. Like the 10-man. Look, I'm discouraged, but I get it. I get exactly why this shook out the way it did. It's matches like the DC and many others, both matches I'm in and matches I'm not in, where I just don't understand why the stuff that's happening is happening and it frustrates me and leaves me feeling helpless. EDIT: I'm literally sick to my stomach over here trying to wrap my head around this stuff. This is far from the first time. I don't want to quit, or leave, but I also don't understand why I stay when I always end up feeling this way. I'm not trying to politic or make people feel bad or whatever else people wanna imply. I feel bad. I don't want to feel bad, but the only solutions I'm coming up with seem foolishly drastic. I'm asking for help, but all people seem to have is a shrug and an apology. |
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| Lita Maivia | Jul 23 2016, 04:12 AM Post #19 |
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The PPV was really good. Craig put together a fantastic card that was even better than I thought he was going to be able to come up with given the circumstances. I wrote a lot of fun stuff both on the show and for the show. I don't think there was anything I regretted after it was done and that was a first for me. I liked how all of my characters went into their matches. Writing for the International title match was a lot of fun. Nate sent me a better ending than I had written so I made sure it fit in there. Honored as hell that Nate wanted Nathaniel to go out losing to Johnny. Thank you for that. I loved working with you every bit of the way. Nathaniel and Kim were some of the best stuff ever written, despite what some people may have felt about it. The Hellcats title match was easier to write than I thought it would be. Hopefully it was enjoyable to read. Hopefully Sakura was Sakura in the match. Dai is the best. Always has been, always will be. Very happy to see the Brick Sharks keep the belts. I totally didn't see the Energio post until after I wrote an RP about him not giving the Sharks the time of day. Then I saw that he did so I had to go into major edit mode so my RP wasn't totally stupid (anymore stupid than the Sharks naturally are). Loved writing all the stuff with Steve for the show. Jack Manson Jr. is one of my favorite characters and I'm sorry that he didn't win the Dual Crown. I love Steve and I love his character, but it just didn't feel like the right decision for me this time. I'm sorry for those who don't agree with me. It wasn't just my decision though, so consider that please. Just because louder voices are protesting it doesn't make either one of us more right than the other. Thank you Craig for being the fedhead and keeping this place going. Even when I hate being here, I love being here. Thank you to Steve and Dai for writing for the show. Thank you to everyone who RPed. Congratulations to the winners, you rocked the party. Condolences to the losers, you all still rocked the party. Board will look different soon. Not sure when. |
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| Steve | Jul 23 2016, 04:44 AM Post #20 |
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McConnaigh Brothers vs. Dragon & Razorback It's a shame this match didn't make it onto the PPV and that Will didn't have more of a presence in the RP's for SOS. I hope that Will sticks around and we start seeing some reliability from him because when he's here and he's committed he's really good. Dee Dee Summers vs. Stella Sita It is a shame that Stella didn't RP. Hopefully it was just an oversight since she was booked after the card had already been posted. I really look forward to seeing RP's from Stella and see what she has to offer. In regards to Dee Dee, I told Craig in my judging feedback that I can see Dee Dee making a mark on the Hellcat division. She is a good writer and I think she will fit in great with the current cast of Hellcats. Vi vs. Shaelin Marie O'Hara Both Wight and Sticky are talented writers. This one was hard to judge. Nice work by both handlers. WORLD TAG TEAM CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH Another set of talented writers. I <3 The Brick Sharks. I told Lita early in the cycle that her RP's with them literally make me laugh out loud. I especially like Harley. He cracks me up big time, especially in our Twitter exchange last week. This one wasn't as tough for me to judge as the rest. For me it was hands down for the champions to retain. INTERNATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH Super solid match here and great story telling going into it by Lita and Nate. Super sad to see Nate leaving us and hope that both he and The Other Steve return to us some day. I said this in my judging feedback and I'm going to just go ahead and put this out there. Johnny Amazing deserves big things. He needs to be in the Dual Crown picture. I've enjoyed watching his rise to prominence in FIW. He is a key player in FIW. HELLCATS CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH This one was extremely hard to judge. Both Dai and Lita have such a strong grasp of their characters that when they RP it is near flawless. These are two amazing characters. I had to read through their RP's twice before I finally made my decision for this match. Talking with Lita earlier we were discussing Brittany and I told her that Brittany is really has the underdog thing going for her. So when she finally does have her moment it will be an extra special moment. |
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| Digitalwheelin | Jul 23 2016, 05:50 AM Post #21 |
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I haven't read the entire show yet, but I definitely will, though, and I'll edit this post with my feedback, as detailed as I can get. I just wanted to say big thanks to Lita for writing our match. Nathaniel was written perfectly, as usual, and I'm glad you liked the ending that I wrote for it. I knew I wanted Johnny to hit the Amazing Bomber on Nathaniel for a couple reasons. For one, it's his primary finisher and, on top of that, it's a pretty big move. Especially against a guy like Nathaniel who outweighs Johnny by just over 100 lbs. But I figured since this was a relatively high profile match and there was a lot at stake, it would make Johnny look good to beat a bigger guy (in stature) like Nathaniel. And also I wanted something big for Johnny because I feel like he's the most underrated character here. He (and Lita as his handler) is more than deserving of being a top-tier character/handler. Lita, I couldn't agree more that the Nathaniel/Kim stuff was some of the best that we've ever done. It was always fun as hell. And that's how I feel about a majority of my time in FIW. Going all the way back to when I first got to Rising with my cousin, the feuds we had going on back then were fun as hell, if only a little short. I had ZERO clue what I was doing when it came to RP'ing cause at the time I had only been in another fed for like 2 weeks before quitting. Lol. But still, Rising was a lot of fun as was everything else that came after it. The combination of Nathaniel/Kim, who can't see anything beyond their own reflections, has been awesome to play through, and then adding Eversol into the mix; with the three of us together it only upped the ante from there. Whether it was working with Bleak or against him, it was always easy not just because he's my cousin, but because he's a damn good writer and RP'er and always gave me something to feed off of and work with. I think it's safe to say this place has had more than its fair share of ups and downs, but nonetheless, it's been amazing being here (however off and on) for the better part of 12 or 13 years. Like everyone else who's come and gone as far as active RP'ing, I'll still be lurking around here every now and then. And although at first, I ruled out a comeback, I've since mulled it over and I wouldn't be opposed to a comeback sometime down the line. TL;DR: I've loved this place from the moment I set foot here 12 or 13 years ago, you guys are all some of the best people I've come to know, and although I hate leaving, I may be back sometime. For the record, there's going to be an exclusive promo from Nathaniel in the ring "after the cameras went off the air" and he's pretty much going to be saying the exact same things I just said here, albeit in an in-universe OOC sort of way. So, even if it WAS TL;DR, you'll be seeing it again anyway Lol!
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| Minister Wighty | Jul 23 2016, 05:54 AM Post #22 |
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You'll be sorely missed. |
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| cookingood | Jul 23 2016, 08:10 AM Post #23 |
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First of all, I want to thank everyone here who worked their butts off. Handlers, match-writers, judges, fedhead. It's been stated a couple times already but really... hats off to everyone. We do this for fun and I think it shows. That kinda sounds weird but let's go with it because I think if we did this as a job it would be a ton more bland. This is exciting because of YOU having fun. So thanks. Round two of thanks! I don't like to specifically target people and put them in any kind of light if I don't have to buuuut... This one's necessary, right? Thank you to Nate and all of his fantastic work around here. Sucks to have you depart from the ring. You've been wildly entertaining... Dare I say you've been the Diamond Standard? I think it goes without saying that you went out with a bang and your work with Lita was a best case scenario for a sendoff. Onto show stuff! I may update this as I go (as I haven't read the entirety of the show yet) but I'll be honest, I'm still catching up and trying to settle back in. Hope nobody takes that as a slight if I unintentionally have excluded them. I'll start with the DC match. I don't have much commentary on the "controversy" surrounding it. I thought it was done well though, even if not everybody can agree with the result. Maybe to lighten things a bit... Can we all agree that Jack Manson Jr. should just steal his opponent's entrance music? That'd be a killer gimmick. Just kidding, I love Jack Manson Jr. the way he is. Don't sic him on me. The opening 10-man match was very organized and must have been absolute hell to write. That's honestly the first thought that popped into my head with seeing 10 people. But props to Craig for handling it with grace! IC match was Amazing. Haha, puns. Really though... What a way for Nate to go out and I will echo his thoughts on Johnny being one of the most underrated characters here. Lita and Nate told a wonderful story that really captivated me. It was a situation where I didn't wanna see either lose because I love both characters so much. How despicable of Nate for making me cheer for Nathaniel Alexander. ![]() I'm terrible with segues and typing and thinking in general, so forgive me for that. Segments were really something that might've flown under the radar on this show, possibly because of the longer matches. More to read, more to pay attention to. Still I appreciated all the segments and thought they were really fun. Jack Manson Jr. is a certified asshole. I really like Orion and those kind of backstage management segments... And I'm also inexplicably in love with backstage interviews right before a match. The Main Event was something that was a joy to read. Sakura is a really tough champion and Brittany is the best you can get as far as challengers go and it was written that way. Really close and really fun to read. The post-match respect was cool to see too. Now for the FSC match. It sucks that Cody was unable to compete. I had my own issues, being without computer for the entirety of the cycle since I was on a trip, so I did what I could on my phone. What I could do on my phone turned out to be one RP. I meant to put another one out Tuesday night but I didn't even have cell service where I was staying. Good times. Didn't wanna deadline bomb though and no excuses obviously. Congrats to Sticky! That belt sure as hell is good on Richlen and he was on fire this cycle. Not sure that I could've beaten him even if I had cell service. I want to see good things for that belt and I think Gus delivers. The match was perfectly written and the dynamic between Darian/Kim and Gus/Shaelin was great. All in all, maybe Summer of Sin didn't meet expectations result-wise for everyone... But I think effort-wise it was inspiring. Phenomenal PPV from a fantastic community. Love y'all. |
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| Willie | Jul 23 2016, 12:16 PM Post #24 |
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Don't worry, Steve, you will. I am in the middle of working a 12 day stint straight that has got me whupped. But I am halfway through a roleplay right now with the brothers that I think everyone will enjoy. I have no intentions of departing for the forseeable future unless something serious comes up in my personal life again. |
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| Dai | Jul 23 2016, 07:26 PM Post #25 |
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As snazzy as the Summer of Sin background was, feels good to be back in blue. Match was great, with regards to Sakura's style, although it's fun to note that I don't think Sakura has ever hit the Prism Assault Refract. Hits the Reflect all the time, and has won the odd match with the Rotate. Just weird, is all. |
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