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A bit of a tour ???
Topic Started: Friday 20-03-2009, 02:40 (318 Views)
101vet
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G'day folks,

I think that this is my first post here but I am an avid watcher just to see how you are going from time to time.

We are leaving on a bit of a tour (from Maryborough Qld) just after Easter heading South & West for a bit of a look again and hopefuly some detecting on the track,

Rather than come home through the Alice we would like to try for WA again.

My detecting activities are limited due to a pararalysis problem so on a good day I would be lucky to get in a couple of hours not to far from the van.

Well ..... got our miner's rights and had a look at the current regs for the state ...whew the're as bad as Qld ..... then I started to look at tengraph (thanks for your instructioal posts Gypsy) and now I'm totaly overwhelmed by what I find.

Are there any Common areas ?? or am I better off leaving my detector in the van or not coming at all ???


Any advice or comments would be gratefuly received.

Thanks & regards,

JK.
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Hi 101vet,

Good to see you posting. With regard to WA tenements & common areas, it all comes down to research & more research. There are many areas which are available to detect on where the areas cover pending applications & those areas which are vacant crown land (VLC), that do not require permission to detect on.
The places to look for are those where the oldtimers found gold & this narrows the odds of finding gold when you detect. So the common areas will be in those places where gold was found in the past & possibly not mined at present. Otherwise you seek permission from the lease holders to prospect that area if the tenement is live & active.
So my advice is to look on tengraph of those areas where the gold was found & see if those sites are VCL or pending application & if that suits you then go ahead & have a look. There are many publications on the W.A. goldfield available to help in your research (the best being Gold & Ghosts Vol.1 & 2) & Gold Prospecting by D.M. Stone to name another. I would bring your detector with you as there may be a good opportunity the use it. Also if you ask the locals where to detect, they may give you some advice but they can also be very secretive about where to go for obvious reasons.
Hope this helps & you have a good & safe trip.

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Ted
Cheers,

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Thanks Topcat,

I had brushed off the dust from gold & Ghosts some time back for a bit of a look and have been through Gypsy's instructions a few more times:

Perhaps you may be able to help me with this when using Tengraph - opened on Mt Maiden 27 32' 48" 122 05' and identified a couple of things ie,
E38/2144 as a registered lease and company details etc. - E38/2198 as an application not yet granted, but I am unable to highlight or bring up details on 8881 Common (outlined in Red).
Could you please tell me if I am missing any thing to get information on this?

I also understand that access has become a lot more difficult and policed more since my last (non prospecting) visit over 10 yrs ago, so I guess my touringwill be a lot more restrictive.

Thanks for your help

Regards, JK.
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hi 101vet

its good to see you are useing gypsy,s info on prospeecting areas and waypoints, i see on ebay people are selling this information for $50.00 per area, she gives members this info for free, dont be surprised if more areas open up to us as the small miners start to run out of money and start to dump there leases, hope you pick up a bit of info of the forum and welcome abored...john...
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Hi 101vet,

The 9881 common that you ask about to the best of my knowledge refers to a government reserve to which the surrounding tenements in that reserve have either been granted or applied for.
If you go to the 'Selections' toolbar on your Tengrapth screen & select 'Land Screen' you will see the area you mentioned is highlited as a Crown Reserve.

If you see an area that you are interested in looking at why don't you contact the lease holders (if the tenement is live) & ask permission? All it takes is a phone call or email & I've so far have not been refused permission using this process.
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Ted
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Hi all, and welcome back vet101,
Topcat,

How to you get the ph# or email addresses to contact them?

Cheers Dave
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Hi Dave,

If you are familiar with using Tengraph, when you high-lite the tenement you are seeking on the Public Boundaries (Granted Boundaries) view screen & then look at the toolbar at the top, on the left side you will see the tenement I.D. number & what the current situation is with it (i.e. granted, Unsurveyed, live, pending ect).
Now if you go to the right side of the toolbar next to the scale window you will see a button with the inscription 'i....'.
When you open that option a tenement information window is dispayed on the screen. In that screen you will see a 'Holders' button. If you open that option it displays a 'Holder Information' window which will give you the name & contact address of the holder. You can now let your fingers do the walking & use the white pages or google the tenement holder for further information.

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Ted
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Hi Topcat,

"Easy when you know how!"

Thanks very much for your help.

Cheers Dave
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Gidday 101vet

DONT leave your detector at home or in the van - WA is a paradise for detecting - there's plenty of places to detect and plenty of gold left for everyone.


Ted provided some information earlier and you can also apply for a section 20a
permit for 25 bucks for the right to prospect for 3 months over any exploration tenement - with some minor rules that are easy to understand and pretty fair on all.

Have a look at this information

http://www.dmp.wa.gov.au/documents/Info18(3).pdf

Heres a small part of the pamphlet;

The Permit System
The permit holder can gain access to a nominated area of Crown land on a granted exploration licence, described by
graticular blocks, for a period of three months, but using only hand-held tools.
Prospecting is limited to Crown land within a granted exploration licence. Crown land for these purposes includes vacant
Crown land, Pastoral lease land and reserved land for Common, Mining and Public Utility. A permit does not allow
prospecting to be carried out within a national park, nature reserve, part of a townsite or another type of classified reserve
(such as a cemetery) or private property (such as farmland).
Although the consent of the exploration licence holder is not required, the licence holder will be notified by the Department, of
the issue of a permit and has 21 days to advise the permit holder in a licensee statement of any concerns relating to the
nominated area.

When you travel through WA drop into the Mines Dept registrar office in towns such as Mt Magnet or the local pub (in a small town) or caravan park and people will give you plenty of advice where to detect - I have found the Dept of Mines offices to be very helpful with advice and they will print you out some maps of places you can go.

Definitely bring your detector over and enjoy that activity - dont miss out and dont let the complexity of bureaucratic public service gobbledegook ;) deter you - you'll regret it.

Best Regards
Bill

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Thank you so much for the members who have replied with very helpful information and comments. It would be great if anyone felt inclined to give me a PM with their phone No. and a suitable time and allow me to call them for a one on one chat.

At this stage we hope to be in WA by mid May and will probably head toward Leonora and make up our minds on further destinations from there.

We normall travel with our pooch and keep him muzzled and on the leash when in caravan parks or out bush (which is most of the time) but I am starting to get concerned with the idea of taking him on this trip given the possibility of extensive baiting, can anyone offer their advice ??

One further problem I have yet to solve is with the DVA and getting permission to use BOC or another supplier of medical oxygen whilst in the West as they use Air Liquide as a supplier here in Qld but their branches are "slim pickings" over your way and I can only carry enough cylinders fo at best 6 days. I hope again that persistance will win out!

One further problem that I have with Tengraph if anyone can help please. How do you determine the co-orinates for the boundaries of the tenements ??

Once again I remain indebted :unsure:

Regards, JK.

PS. the new site had me tossed for quite a while tonight :P
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Hi JK,
sorry about all the wacko stuff happening with the forum,
i just wished they gave me some warning.
anyway now that i can upload youtube videos onto the new site
i can give a step by step live tutorial on tengraph through video,
once i have got this site all sorted ill start creating these tengraph
videos in live time ;)
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Don't wish for less problems,wish for more skills.
Don't wish for less challenges,wish for more wisdom.


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G'day Gypsy,

that sounds good, thanks

See on the vine that you have been crook again, just hope your on the up and up again now.

Regards, JK.
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101vet
Monday 23-03-2009, 21:30


One further problem that I have with Tengraph if anyone can help please. How do you determine the co-orinates for the boundaries of the tenements ??

Hi 101vet,

I will try & help you out with your tenement coordinate boundary query while Gypsy is setting up a video instruction demo. The way I do it is this:
1. Hi-lite the tenement you are querying, zoom in (Alt.Page Dwn) until you display the largest view of
the tenement that your monitor will allow (you may have to centre the tenement on the screen
first) then go to the toolbar & select the 'Coordinates ' option from the 'Windows' section.
2. In the 'Coordinate' screen display you will see an option 'At mouse position'. Select it.
3. If you are going to refer these coordinates to a digital map, then at the very bottom of the screen
you will see 2 options - AGD84 & GDA94. These refer to GPS positioning setups.
The Geocentric Datum of Australia (usually referred to as GDA94, or just GDA) is a coordinate
system for Australia.
That is, it's a system of latitudes and longitudes, or east and north coordinates, which we can use to
keep track of locations.
When GDA94 was defined, it was a requirement that coordinates of points in these 2 systems should
be within a metre of each other.
This was achieved, and is generally still the case in 2000. The spheroids used for WGS84 and GDA84
are also almost identical, and both systems are geocentric.
If your GPS setup has the option for both then select GDA94 otherwise AGD84.
4. Move your mouse pointer to each corner of the displayed tenement boundary & take note of the
position - either in Lat/Long or Northing/Easting (whatever system you prefer).
5. You can now setup those boundary positions as waypoints using such mapping programs as
OziExplorer & transfer those positions to your GPS. You can also use those positions to setup track
points which will give you a boundary line to work with.

Cheers

Ted
Cheers,

Ted


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Hi Topcat,

thanks for the reply bloke that info has put the finger right on the ball!

I am familiar with and use Ozi so should all go well now that I have your instructions.




Thanks again & regards, JK.
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