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| johncc | Saturday 14-11-2009, 20:30 Post #1 |
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Hi All Members I just transferd this to hear as a bit more aproperate. Copied from time on my hands Hi Ted Like you I have been pospecting since the 70s I would have found many thousands of Nuggets in that time It seems now I only get a thrill when its a patch or a good size one now. Over the years I have developed quite a few teckneeks that I do share. but alas most dont listen. It dose not matter what detector you have , Just getting stuck on the latest detector is just a great devertion to actualy finding new patches or big nugs, First thing is learn a bit about the geology of were gold can be found. ( NOT JUST OLD GRANDADS PATCH THAT HAS BEEN FLOGGED TO DEATH ) I find that is most peoples aproach . Then the other thing is know your detector ( Just because you own a gitar dose not mean you can play a tune. ) When you know your detector. If you are after new patches etc its speed ( Yes speed ) I have to smile when people say go slow. Yes in grandads patch for crums and leftovers yes slow. but if you get a good fast coil Like a 24 ufo mono and cover the ground. you will still do well. After I show people this metherd they most often find gold. The other important thing is as soon as you get to a new spot bury a whole heap of targets small, big, and then tune your ear in to the area, I do this still after all the years pros. The idea is go over the targets as fast as you can and learn the single noise. I show folk this teckneck Dut i notice they dont listen and do it once then they think they know. Funny how they dont find much gold . I do this Every time I leave camp Just to tune my hearing in again. consiquently I nearly always came back to camp after 2 hours with gold I can only detect for max 2 hours a day. You cannot go as fast with DD coils . The art is teach and practice the speed you can go with practice targets Lead is the perfect test targets. Remember the old saying practice makes perfect. If you only rely on learning from actualy finding gold you will be learning for a very long time. There are many more tricks that improve the odds but they can be for another day. I hope these tips help Cheers Johnc Forgot I like going bush now just to be in the bush and Photography. Fare more time taking pictures and HD Vidio for wildlife docos that I am working on, Cheers Johnc Hi Johncc, Since getting back into the game I've found 'Low & slow' the ideal method. Cheers Ted Hi Ted Yes thats what they say. If that works for you great, But my gold count is about 4 times that of pros mates they using 4000 4500 I only use 2200 . I have spent 30+ years perfecting the methord , So I am not on the learning curve any more. I find detecting just chaining old grandads patch so borring and brain numbing now. So thus when I do detect I try and find some. Or better still Go and do photagraphy, Ask Alan, Jon, and Ben, how my methord works. The prof is in the Gold . I usualy go pros on my own as the places I go are very remote and most are just not geared up for these trips. Cheers Johnc Yes Low and Slow for thrashed area looking for very deep and small stuff, Hi Johncc, This topic (Tell Us About Yourself-Time On My Hands )was posted when I first joined the forum back in July07. Peter(Nightjar) lately decided to add a reply in here to me having changed my avatar so the conversation may have got a little off the track on membership introduction. Since joining my methods of detecting have changed somewhat & while some like to swing fast, I like to go a little slower especially when using a large mono. When on new ground you have to start somewhere so using a big coil & swing fast will cover more ground in less time, but for me with a crook shoulder & back (arthritis) that method does not last long with me so I swing at pace that is comfortable for me & allows me more endurance. BTW I use a hipstick to lighten the load & bury targets when on new ground & tuning the o'l 2100. I'm a bit like Jon who can never swing fast anyway (at least I've never seen him go fast)!!!!LOL Lately I do all my research on virgin ground & not necessarily reveal it (for obvious reasons) to this forum as I am sure other members do also. You give sound advice John & I'm sure the members appreciate it. Thanks for posting. Cheers Ted Hi Johncc, MANY thanks for you experience John, I for one appreciate your tips. I hear what you are saying..I used to swing all the time fast!! But have slowed down the swing these days BUT I did NOT listen carefully when my swing was faster than I do these days!!!! I shall do as you suggest & do more testing of targets. I agree with Ted we are sometimes forced to swing our detectors at to what are painful bodies allow!!!! ... the good thing is we do not give up!!!! Cheers, Kath Thanks Kath I am also is constant pain through atherits and a life time of Abusing the Body and Diving related bone damage my pills are like a full course meal. Thus I developed a system that allows me to swing a detector with no effort at all. It took many years to develop with add ons and improvments, Looks werd but I can cover the ground. It cover about 4 times the ground than conventional setups without the normal strain. I posted my first remarks on this thread, as I herd through the grape vine that Ted was not finding too much gold. even with all the effort he was putting in. I just thought I would try and give him a differant vue as I know Its all now from the biginners slow slow slow but the full time pros ( Which I was at one time ) swing fast etc etc I do agree that biginners will never find gold doing this, but it can be learnt. There average for pros was 300 oz a year. As I said its only fully nowing your macine that you can do this. also practice, thus the tip on how to practice. I have found over the years its not such a great idea puting anything on public forums. as inverably one just gets ho ho off. so as a rule I keep myself to myself. and prospect by myself. I find that its usualy the newer ones that do not like anything surgested to them after they have found a few bits o gold, usualy on grandads patch. I dont know why. I always have the idea you only learn by listening, and more listening. I have a very low tolarance with folk that ask for help, then dont listen. A good story to demonstrate this was in my diving days for specimen Shells, In the 70s I bought a underwater scoota (very expensive in those days) so I could cover vast areas underwater, I was killing the pig for about 5 years till others suddenly realised. The other shell divers in the indestry were all saying you will never do any good with that as you go to fast. I just agread with them I was getting anything up to 10 times the amount of shell to any one else. Gess what everybody in the indestry uses them now ( standard equipment ) Cheers Johnc Another great tip ERMAPPER But I will not go into that as its a profestional Geo software its how most companys do the Geo surveys now and find there anomalies. Hi John, Thanks again for the tips & you can bet your botton dollar that I will heed your advice as the next trip I'm planning is on virgin ground & the area I propose to cover will be quite a few square kilometers over a 2 month period & this is in a very remote area. At least I will have some good starting points from a couple of geologists who have steered me in the right direction. True I haven't found much over the last couple of years since getting back into the detecting side of prospecting, but then again I haven't really put in serious time where I haven't been washed out due to bad weather but hopefully next year will be better. I'm not in it for the money....it's just a hobby & I don't mind if I don't get any significant finds. Just being out there is all part of the enjoyment. Patience is a man's best virtue. As you say I always take my camera with me & the bush is a good place to photograph. I'd be interested in what sort of rig setup you use to ease the load. Perhaps a couple of pics on here would help. Cheers |
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| johncc | Saturday 14-11-2009, 20:37 Post #2 |
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Ted I will gear up tomorrow and get My better half to take some pics. Just to give some of us old decrapids ideas. There are always sulutions to problems. You just have to think about them. I too do not go detecting for the $ got past that many years ago. Always found more when I was not too worried about finding any. As said I go bush now mainly for filming etc. But I do most of that at our bush block on the Palinup. now. Cheers Johnc
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