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What cars/bikes have you had?
Topic Started: Nov 7 2011, 02:01 AM (525 Views)
Braythor
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Yes, the hazard perception test is more retarded than a turnip with Downs' Sydrome. Luckily it hadn't been introduced when I took my test, but I did have a brief span where I thought it'd be cool to be a driving instructor (no, I don't know why either). During this I had to do a HPT, and I totally agree with Yellow on this. Also, the monitors used (it was 8 years ago) were not exactly HD, and there were things that would pop up which you were supposed to 'identify' as a potential hazard, even though THE RESOLUTION MEANT YOU COULDN'T TELL WHAT THE FUCK THEY WERE! Stupid idea, just plain stupid.
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crazybydefault
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May 6 2012, 10:23 AM
Poro - do you generally have automatics or manuals over there? I think one of the biggest reasons it's so much easier to learn in the US is that y'all generally drive automatics. That whole extra pedal and gear change business is easily the hardest part of learning to drive ;)
My friends think I'm weird because I actually prefer driving a manual transmission over an automatic one. In fact, the car I learned to drive on was a stick-shift!

The reason why? BECAUSE THEY'RE SO MUCH FUN! :D
Edited by crazybydefault, May 8 2012, 11:13 PM.
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SensoryFour34
May 6 2012, 12:52 AM
Driver's Ed depends on what state you're in. In Utah, Driver's Ed is required, but completely pointless. You don't use anything you learn in the class when you're actually driving. You mostly just watch videos about how to drive (and some that don't teach you anything, but might give you nightmares), and do packets where you just have to search the textbook for the answers.

The only actually driving you do isn't even during the class. You have to sign up for Range (which is basically just a driving obstacle course where the instructor yells at you if you do the slightest thing wrong) and Road (where you pretty much just practice for the driving test). After a certain number of sessions of both, you take the test with one of the teachers. Once you finally get your licence, you never follow any of the rules you learned in the class.

Sounds like fun, huh? (Biggest waste of time ever! :wall: )
Clearly designed by the US Government :)

This reminds me of a "highway safety" video from an early episode of the Simpsons (can't find a link to it) where crash after bloody crash was supposed to "scare" the audience staight haha
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Coux73
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Lets see... in order:

1. 1984 buick sky chicken
2. 1972 chevy chevette
3. 1986 chevy celebrity
4. 1985 mercury marquis
5. 1996 chevy cavalier
6. 2004 honda accord (automatic)
7. 2004 honda accord (standard)

Oh, and a Klein Pulse comp II mountain bike
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JohnMcL7
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crazybydefault
May 8 2012, 11:08 PM
Scruff 815
May 6 2012, 10:23 AM
Poro - do you generally have automatics or manuals over there? I think one of the biggest reasons it's so much easier to learn in the US is that y'all generally drive automatics. That whole extra pedal and gear change business is easily the hardest part of learning to drive ;)
My friends think I'm weird because I actually prefer driving a manual transmission over an automatic one. In fact, the car I learned to drive on was a stick-shift!

The reason why? BECAUSE THEY'RE SO MUCH FUN! :D
Manuals are very much the standard here and personally I much prefer driving them, some of these clever dual clutch gearboxes are impressive as they don't suffer most of the downsides of conventional autos and are particularly good on sporty cars but not to my taste. I think with a manual gearbox you feel more connected to the car and you know what gear you need whereas an auto can only guess if I'm wanting to drive economically or this time more sporty. On a turbocharged engine good use of the gears can make a large difference to both performance and fuel economy. My current car has a fly by wire throttle and I'm fairly sure an electronic brake pedal (I can't feel the brakes at all) which I'm not keen on as it makes you feel a bit numb almost as you can't feel the car so well.

The hazard perception test is really quite strange and I don't see the point of it when everyone has to sit a practical test anyway where the learner's hazard perception skills can be witnessed while they're driving. It just seems too artificial trying to have that as part of a theory test and it doesn't seem well handled as the way it counts hazards is bizarre. In one video the camera was going along lane 1 up to a roundabout when a dump truck cut into the lane unexpectedly forcing the camera car to slow down and give the truck room, I'd marked the truck as a possible hazard when it came close to the car but apparently none of that was a hazard. In another clip, a lady walking down the pavement was a hazard as she might have used the pedestrian crossing so I should have clicked her when she walked out from a sidestreet even though she stayed on the pavement but driving down a busy one way round with lots of people going up and down both pavements isn't a hazard?
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crazybydefault
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JohnMcL7
May 20 2012, 05:06 PM
crazybydefault
May 8 2012, 11:08 PM
Scruff 815
May 6 2012, 10:23 AM
Poro - do you generally have automatics or manuals over there? I think one of the biggest reasons it's so much easier to learn in the US is that y'all generally drive automatics. That whole extra pedal and gear change business is easily the hardest part of learning to drive ;)
My friends think I'm weird because I actually prefer driving a manual transmission over an automatic one. In fact, the car I learned to drive on was a stick-shift!

The reason why? BECAUSE THEY'RE SO MUCH FUN! :D
Manuals are very much the standard here and personally I much prefer driving them, some of these clever dual clutch gearboxes are impressive as they don't suffer most of the downsides of conventional autos and are particularly good on sporty cars but not to my taste. I think with a manual gearbox you feel more connected to the car and you know what gear you need whereas an auto can only guess if I'm wanting to drive economically or this time more sporty. On a turbocharged engine good use of the gears can make a large difference to both performance and fuel economy. My current car has a fly by wire throttle and I'm fairly sure an electronic brake pedal (I can't feel the brakes at all) which I'm not keen on as it makes you feel a bit numb almost as you can't feel the car so well.
A big problem I have with automatics is the delay in downshifting when going up a hill. I drove a manual transmission over a mountain pass a few weeks ago, and discovered that it was much easier to drive with a manual, believe it or not. I could maintain the same speed throughout most of the pass, simply because I would shift where needed, as opposed to letting an automatic system guess where a downshift was required. Decelerating and accelerating through the tight corners was an awesome adrenaline rush, too! ;)
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JohnMcL7
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To be fair some of the new dual clutch autos can handle that type of driving as they don't use a torque converter and can change gear blisteringly quickly because they're actually changing clutch, not gear and are constantly monitoring your driving to work out which way your next gear shift is.

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snickerdoodle
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I like my SUV, I can push the shifter over and up/down shift manually if I need to. :D
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porottaja
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I got my driver's licence today! Now I actually have a reason to celebrate the 4th of July.
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porottaja
Jul 4 2012, 07:41 AM
I got my driver's licence today! Now I actually have a reason to celebrate the 4th of July.
And we have a reason to stay far away from Finland. ;)
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Congrats Poro!!!

even though this is an older thread I'll contribute but ihave no idea what year any of them are....:
1. Blue Limited Edition Golden Eagle Jeep
2. White Nissan Sentra ("The White Rabbit")
3. Black Chrysler PT Cruiser ("The Black Bunny")

Josh bought me a Sky Blue Trek Bike for my 20th birthday. Used to use it all the time down in Austin.
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mr per0
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When I got my first license, it was a joke. :cheer: Road signs: 25 multiple choice questions to get my learners permit @ 15. Have that for a year, take a pitiful class that I remember nothhing of, have a couple sessions of 30 min behind wheel, 30 min dozing in back seat (observing). :bored: When time is up and driver's ed complete, take a 25 question rules test at the DMV and presto! license given. no driving practical because I had taken driver's ed. And that was before graduated or probationary licenses or any of that. full dl, for nothing. :yay:

It was a bit harder for my Commercial DL. That involved taking about 10 different tests of varying lengths and then a driving exam with a state trooper. So now I am licensed to drive very large vehicles, with endorsements for >15 passengers and school busses.

As far as vehicles I have owned:

1996 Jeep Wrangler, manual, red with tan soft top
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2000 Ford mustang, manual (auto is cheating / wrong), blue
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2006 Ford Escape, auto :lame: , black
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Trek 3500 bike, black
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Manuals are definitely better/ more fun than automatics, imo.
Edited by mr per0, Jul 20 2012, 03:33 AM.
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