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| SgtMaj AJJ | Mar 23 2012, 04:01 PM Post #1 |
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As a big fan of Ridley Scott and the Aliens franchise, the character Weyland has been revealed. |
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| Ka Five | Mar 23 2012, 05:48 PM Post #2 |
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Awesome! The only thing I'm worried about is I think Ridley Scott is going to be going with his original idea that he Xenomorphs can turn other species into eggs, which will be weird if you see it on screen when it's been established in the other non-Ridley Scott movies that there's a Queen. Still, I'm excited for it. |
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| Scruff 815 | Mar 23 2012, 06:48 PM Post #3 |
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It is written by Damon Lindelof. /Jizz in my pants. |
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| crazybydefault | Mar 23 2012, 11:00 PM Post #4 |
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I am also a big Ridley Scott fan, but yet I have not seen this before. Thanks for the share!
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| TheOneInYellow | Mar 24 2012, 03:02 PM Post #5 |
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Here's another trailer. Yeah, I had a nerdy orgasmic moment... Just before I go on, I believe that Xenomorph's will feature as symbols or statues of some sort in the Prometheus film (here is a time stamped link of the above trailer showing what looks like a Xenomorph as either a statue or encased in something...). Oh, and the entire film is being..erm...filmed in 3D. Not post-edited in 3D, not Avatar CGI on-the-fly 3D, but real 3D with RED 3D Epic Cameras (second link). Yeah, THAT FUCKING AWESOME!!! This broke my mind Also, the first comment on that YouTube vid was this:
I don't think so. The film will focus more on the original "The Space Jockey" Alien (otherwise known as Mala'kak), so-called by the writers of the first Alien film since this giant Alien looked like it was sitting on a massive console (appeared as an extinct giant skeleton in the Alien ship on LV-426 in the very first Alien film). They may have either travelled and carried Xenomorphs around in interstellar ships, or bio-engineered them, or found them (one in particular, a Queen Alien Xenomorph, burst out of the Jockey alien pilot, to which then it's ship crashed landed on LV-426 for untold millennia until the crew of the Nostromo found it). I think the film will be about what their role is in the Alien universe (read as NOT THE DOUCHEBAGGERY (yes this word is URL linked) AVP universe ).Just to show evidence of this, take a look at my link for the Prometheus trailer above, or click here for the actual scene (a few seconds after the time stamped clip starts) where you can see a living Jockey alien. ARE YOU KIDDING ME???? I THINK I AM GOING TO EXPLODE INSIDE!!!!1!!1 Edited by TheOneInYellow, Mar 24 2012, 03:33 PM.
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| Deadpool Psycko | Mar 29 2012, 04:11 PM Post #6 |
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This has got me insanely stoked!! From what I've read, it's "in the same universe as the xenomorphs" but will not directly feature them. Prometheus is to establish the world before encountering the Alien and (most likely) how we came to LV-426 the first time. I'm not sure if it WON'T occupy areas of the AvP universe b/c the character appearing so far is NOT "Bishop" Weyland. It's Peter Weyland who precedes Lance Henricksons character. I liked some of the ties of AvP but was mainly in it for the Alien vs Predator. However, the AvP universe noted on that our Civilization was in fact "borrowed" from visitors. Preds might even make some sort of verbal cameo. |
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| PhoenixVakarian | Mar 29 2012, 04:30 PM Post #7 |
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| Deadpool Psycko | Mar 29 2012, 04:53 PM Post #8 |
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Yep that's the trailer I've been watching back and forth for like 3 days lol. People keep trying to "find" the Alien but there's really little to no indication. The only things I could garner, were the possible Acid Burning, the Space Jockey (could very well be the short time before it acquires a Chestburster) and the final scene "Big Things Have Small Beginnings" but that's more of a cryptic notion. Still can't wait for it!! |
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| TheOneInYellow | Mar 29 2012, 06:13 PM Post #9 |
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Erm, you may want to re-read my post again, or read a snippet of it below (just a quick tip and heads-up; any words in my posts that are orange mean that they are highlighted links, so you can click them):
Now, time for a rant. before I go on, first:
Please do not take this personally, but I am in complete disagreement with your post. Sorry. Let me elaborate: In the case of the Alien, Predator and AvP universes; they are all distinct as follows (using only the official films as reference, not comic books, videogames, transmedia products, other):
Oh, finally, only the AvP: The Game (2010) references the Alien universe directly by way of one audio log, which references, without using names, Ellen Ripley. The reason behind this is two fold; to entertain the fans, and to not get law suits in their face since, as I said earlier, the AvP universe is not officially recognised as part of either the Predator or Alien franchises, so direct connections between the three are forbidden. There is more, but I'm spent atm. This issue is strongly contended in the Alien/Predator/AvP universes, but there are many who believe that the AvP universe should not be taken seriously with the other two franchises, and is completely stand-alone; it should only be taken seriously in its own universe. Otherwise, like you, I am more than stoked about Prometheus. On that note, I would like to see a proper introduction between the Predators and the Xenomorphs (and Space Jockeys) through the eyes and ears of the original writers and film makers of the Alien/Predator films, since I think they would do a better job. However, I, in all my heart, do not believe that this will happen.
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| ASLANS R0AR | Apr 18 2012, 08:01 PM Post #10 |
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New Video posted yesterday, featuring David 8
Edited by ASLANS R0AR, Apr 18 2012, 08:16 PM.
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| ASLANS R0AR | Apr 18 2012, 08:17 PM Post #11 |
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Yellow: "The true sequel of Predator 2 is Predator 3" Was Predator 3 any good? It's the only one from the canon I've not seen Edited by ASLANS R0AR, Apr 18 2012, 08:19 PM.
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| Deadpool Psycko | Apr 18 2012, 08:45 PM Post #12 |
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I can take all that into acceptable account. The nerd in me just likes the connection no matter how simple it is. In my case, it doesn't have to be directly referenced in any of the 3 but make some notion to it. Then it's up to my imagination. Similar to the showing of Chiefs face in Halo. That would destroy the story for me. While I understand they're going to be giving Chief a more "human" role in terms of how he reacts to things in Halo 4, it takes away from his "one line bad-assery" but that's slowly slipping off point. I started "connecting" them for myself when the novels/comics started blowing up. I can't even look at Alien or Predator as a "core" franchise for an AvP notion b/c it's never been the same director for the most part. To me, the director is the Captain of the ship. You'd have to seriously emulate their previous vision and incorporate it to feel like their work. But again, that's just me and my nerdery. AvP the game was my tiny little "nail that held together" the AvP notion being the game involves Charles Weyland. That aside, I'm very content with keeping the series' separated. If anything, I adored the cinematics in AvP surrounding the stuff we've never seen the Xeno's do (mainly b/c of CG in lieu of costumes/animatronics). The facehuggers flying out of the eggs in slo-mo really made my hair stand on end. The fight between the 2 Preds and the Xeno's also got me excited. Sadly, they completely fucked Requiem UP. I hated it and that alone will allow me to mentally keep the series' separate. I've also never seen the Xeno's as part of a "cult". The Preds are known to have lenghty "training-coming of age" kinds of trials and with their dominant way of collecting trophies, It's easily ascertainable that they'd stumble upon/hunt Xeno's. Again, it doesn't have to directly be referenced prior but AvP has been a dream/hope for fans of both series for a while. On their behavior in AvP...take into consideration how old those Xeno's must be. How long they've been there. Mainly, only the Queen has been "stable" and has probably been taken in and out of that stasis for who knows how long. I'm sure they don't operate the same as any other "Hive" being that the Hives we've seen, have been established for a long period. That's just my theory though. Again on the Preds behavior, they're adolescents. They probably had minimal training with the weapons they find. By Predator 3, do you mean Predators? If so, I liked it...but it didn't feel the same much how you feel about AvP being "part of" the Pred or Alien universe. It felt kind of B-Movie'ish for a top franchise. That aside, I'm very excited for Prometheus. |
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| ASLANS R0AR | Apr 18 2012, 09:00 PM Post #13 |
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Yes, I meant Predators (Yellow had referred to it as Predator 3, so I used that). I got the impression (from lots of reviews) that it wasn't great, so I haven't made the effort to see it. I loved the concept around AvP (especially the games, which have always freaked me out), but the movies were just OK. I'm ok keeping the AvP separate (but, obviously loosely related) to the Aliens Universe and the Predator Universe. My favorite movies so far in the canon: Predator (first) Aliens (#2) Looking forward to Prometheus and the backstory to the Xenos. |
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| Deadpool Psycko | Apr 18 2012, 09:06 PM Post #14 |
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Well that's the thing from what is being speculated is that this won't be about Xeno's but more along the lines of the first step into "how we encounter" them rather than "THE encounter". So like I said, MAYBE we'll get a look at a facehugger/chestburster/egg/queen by then end but Scott has adamantly stated that Xeno's are NOT anywhere near part of the plot in terms of it being an Alien movie. Again, I just liked the whole notion of these two finally going toe to toe. Just wish it was more plausible. Favorite flicks are basically your two. The second movie really gave the Xeno's their starring role and Predator was just a timeless gem in itself. |
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| ASLANS R0AR | Apr 18 2012, 09:11 PM Post #15 |
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| TheOneInYellow | Apr 21 2012, 02:19 AM Post #16 |
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I may have been too bold in my comments, so I do apologise for being a bit too forward with my arguments. I enjoyed Predators (the third film in the Predator series) simply because the characters were more human and believable, especially the wiry soldier Adrien Brody, who is reminiscent of today's soldiers (rather than super-muscle bound large soldiers depicted by Arnold Schwarzenegger and co., for example). I also felt t was more appropriate to the advancement of the story, from setting, culture, technology, hunting skills, prey/other animals or aliens, and so forth. It has been a dream of fans, and a former dream of mine, to see Predators and Xenomorph's have a real confrontation, but I felt AvP destroyed my dreams. The cult I reference is based strongly of the AvP films and the game (which I, unusually, own the 360 game), and what I felt was that the Xeno's featured prominently throughout the culture of the Predator's in the AvP universe; I hated this. Just like film Predator 2 and, more importantly, Predators, showed, the predator species have their own cultures, but not centred around a particular specie of prey (the two Predator sub-species hunted selected game, and continued to advance themselves). The AvP universe did centre the Predator's culture around the Xenomorph's strongly, and this made no sense to me. Both Aslan, Deadpool, and any one else, has the right to make there own connections between franchises; I often do, a lot. It's like reading comics and manga, you can't help creating connections. Maybe I am so stubborn about the Predator's and the Xenomorphs, as I love both franchises, that I was so appalled and disgusted with AvP, that may views became even stronger and restrictive/protective of the Alien/Predator franchises. On that note, Prometheus may feature Xenomorphs indirectly, but for me, one of the biggest 'elephant-in-the-room' from the Alien franchise, something that has bothered me for over 20 years (I watched the Alien films, and Terminator films, very young), will be answered; the Space Jockey. As both of you are, I am very excited about Prometheus, and my nerd levels are at near critical breaking point (as the Avengers Assemble film is due out soon in the UK...*swoon*...). Oh, I can't make a list that I think is overly true, but this is what I think, right now, is my ranking order of the Alien/Predator franchises:
Alien Resurrection, and all the AvP films, don't make any grade with me whatsoever (though I do watch the former every so often...something is wrong with me... ).
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| Scruff 815 | Apr 21 2012, 09:20 AM Post #17 |
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I agree completely, Yellow! Well, not completely. I think Alien Resurrection is better than Alien 3, which had practically zero action and BRIGHT GREEN SHADOWS ON EVERYTHING due to shitty CGI. Predators was a lot of fun. Adrien Brody - award winning Adrien Brody - was weirdly shit at acting in it, but that just made it all the more fun. Of course it was lacking Jesse Ventura, but hey ![]() ![]() And the less said about AvP the better
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| ASLANS R0AR | Apr 21 2012, 06:33 PM Post #18 |
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No worries, Yellow! I'm much more of a fan of AvP the games than I am the movies, only because it pits two of the greatest alien species ever created against each other. It stretches connections too much to do so, but for me it's worth it. To each his own! |
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| Deadpool Psycko | Apr 23 2012, 02:43 PM Post #19 |
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Two of the best "rivaling" species...Much agreed! However, my nerdery has to place Godzilla and Transformers as the most badass species ever created
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| ASLANS R0AR | Apr 23 2012, 03:25 PM Post #20 |
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Transformers were indeed alien, and supercool, but Godzilla? Isn't he just a T-rex in the wrong time and place?
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