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Avengers Assemble; Choc Full of Spoilers: Beware
Topic Started: May 7 2012, 05:30 PM (682 Views)
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I was just checking IMDb and... there might a movie made around Nick Fury. Titled, Nick Fury. Starring Nick Fury. And maybe

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There's supposed to be

Dr. Strange
Ant Man (and Wasp)
The Vision
Hawkeye (featuring Widow and possibly Bullseye - Not Colin Farrell)
Nick Fury

As far as I've heard that are at least being drafted with treatments.


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I think Nick Fury as a title of a movie would be fine, but I do think at some point they need to tell the Black Widow "origin" story. Not the entire program necessarily, though they could touch on it, but Natasha Romanov for sure.

I think within the confines of a Nick Fury movie, they could hit a brief origin of Black Widow, Hawkeye, and Agent Coulson.

One friend said her only complaint was Hawkeye's lack of an origin story, another friend said her only complaint was Black Widow's lack of an origin story.

Since ScaJo is onboard with doing a BW origin, I say go for it - and have Joss write/direct it.
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@Gengo - I agree. I would've liked a little more backstory for Hawk and Widow, but not an entire movie. There isn't enough interest and popularity of the characters to make a profitable feature film for a mass market.
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May 9 2012, 03:52 AM
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@Gengo - I agree. I would've liked a little more backstory for Hawk and Widow, but not an entire movie. There isn't enough interest and popularity of the characters to make a profitable feature film for a mass market.
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I think the origin for BOTH of those characters could be worked in to a Nick Fury story.

Overall story is the creation of SHIELD and Nick Fury. Interspersed (or when he first starts recruiting members) is intelligence reports, video footage, etc., on both of these, which leads to a switch to their point of view for a few scenes BEFORE they actually join up. Coulson could fit in there as well. Though Hawkeye would have to be recruited before BW to fit with the Avengers movie.
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@Gengo - I agree. I would've liked a little more backstory for Hawk and Widow, but not an entire movie. There isn't enough interest and popularity of the characters to make a profitable feature film for a mass market.
Are you kidding??? Some of people's favorites are the under-rated "powerless" kinds. Hawk and Widow could certainly have a decent original backstory written up to precede Avengers especially now.

I think if they're heavily backing a Dr. Strange movie, I think 2 characters that have already displayed their chops in their debuts have just as much if not more a chance of succeeding. ScarJo's been a hot item since Lost in Translation and The Island.

Being that Widow is infamous for double crossing, I could easily see a Widow Movie with some great plot twists and surprises.
Hawk would be a little more difficult but you could always center it around his SHIELD career and delve more into that as well.

We've seen both these characters in action already and I think everyone can agree they were both successful.



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May 8 2012, 02:36 PM
@ Yellow - That final scene was a US exclusive!!!


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I hate you. No really, :stab:

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Deadpool Psycko
May 8 2012, 02:38 PM
And fuck all that -
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I KNEW, KNEW, I FORGOT TO ADD ANOTHER SCENE. DAMN IT!!!!! :wall:

But you are right, that scene, along with everything to do with ___, was awesome! The entire cinema goers, including my sister and me, laughed out loud at that scene :clap:

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May 9 2012, 12:51 PM
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As for the rest of the comments, I agree with most.
If a new Nick Fury film is made, then a combination of Black Widow (HULK SMASH DAT ASS) and Hawkeye, amongst other characters, can make a great backstory film, but I cannot see, nor would I be impressed (as far as I can see) individual films for those to characters to be great. However, I am not amongst the AWESOME writers who work within The Marvel Cinematic Universe, so my point here may be moot if they do produce such films.
:desert:


Just to make a another note, The Marvel Cinematic Universe is amongst the rarest projects in cinematic history to continuously publish and create blockbuster films with at least above average or higher ratings and great financial returns. This project = WIN
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May 9 2012, 01:11 PM

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As for the rest of the comments, I agree with most.
If a new Nick Fury film is made, then a combination of Black Widow (HULK SMASH DAT ASS) and Hawkeye, amongst other characters, can make a great backstory film, but I cannot see, nor would I be impressed (as far as I can see) individual films for those to characters to be great. However, I am not amongst the AWESOME writers who work within The Marvel Cinematic Universe, so my point here may be moot if they do produce such films.
:desert:


Just to make a another note, The Marvel Cinematic Universe is amongst the rarest projects in cinematic history to continuously publish and create blockbuster films with at least above average or higher ratings and great financial returns. This project = WIN
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I'm sorry!!!! :nervous:

Like I said, it was a small scene, no dialogue but entertaining.


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I can't wait to see this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I was going to say lol, this would be the longest yet shortest thread up in here!
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TheOneInYellow
May 8 2012, 02:03 PM
Just a few points:

I loved the film, but there was one niggle that I could not shake; I never watched the canonicalised 'The Incredible Hulk' 2008 with Edward Norton, as it's on my to-watch-list-ASAP, but I love Norton, a lot. He is a great actor. Some of my friends, and the general response, was that he did good in the film.
I'm only skimming this thread, since I haven't seen the movie yet & don't want it spoiled for me (thanks for all the spoiler tags peeps!), but this comment caught me eye.

The Hulk was a good movie, and I thought Norton did a good job with Banner (have yet to compare with Ruffalo, obviously); just wanted to add that the reason I liked the movie is because it followed the video game story pretty closely, The Hulk: Ultimate Destruction, which is an awesome original Xbox game!
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May 9 2012, 04:53 PM
TheOneInYellow
May 8 2012, 02:03 PM
Just a few points:

I loved the film, but there was one niggle that I could not shake; I never watched the canonicalised 'The Incredible Hulk' 2008 with Edward Norton, as it's on my to-watch-list-ASAP, but I love Norton, a lot. He is a great actor. Some of my friends, and the general response, was that he did good in the film.
I'm only skimming this thread, since I haven't seen the movie yet & don't want it spoiled for me (thanks for all the spoiler tags peeps!), but this comment caught me eye.

The Hulk was a good movie, and I thought Norton did a good job with Banner (have yet to compare with Ruffalo, obviously); just wanted to add that the reason I liked the movie is because it followed the video game story pretty closely, The Hulk: Ultimate Destruction, which is an awesome original Xbox game!
Annnnd this is where we bump heads. As far as how Hulk was presented, the 2003 had a very perfect look without using facial recognition (Ruffalo was the first to use his own face enhanced by CG). As an Origin, Hulk was much better if you ignore the Absorbing Man is his father and the fact that EVERY movie so far is missing Rick Jones, who's a HUGE part of The Hulks story.
Now, my main argument for the 2008 is how they "rebooted" the origin but kept it as sort of following years after 2003's Hulk. Norton....fantastic actor but just does not fit "Bruce Banner". Norton is a phenomenal scumbag, retard and even a good guy. He just doesn't play the Nerd well enough. Ruffalo has played a geeky character well in a few things, most semi-notable Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind. Bana played a much more sincere, twitchy Banner but not as good as Ruffalo. Ruffalo sold me the second he was onscreen.
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May 9 2012, 04:53 PM
TheOneInYellow
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Just a few points:

I loved the film, but there was one niggle that I could not shake; I never watched the canonicalised 'The Incredible Hulk' 2008 with Edward Norton, as it's on my to-watch-list-ASAP, but I love Norton, a lot. He is a great actor. Some of my friends, and the general response, was that he did good in the film.
I'm only skimming this thread, since I haven't seen the movie yet & don't want it spoiled for me (thanks for all the spoiler tags peeps!), but this comment caught me eye.

The Hulk was a good movie, and I thought Norton did a good job with Banner (have yet to compare with Ruffalo, obviously); just wanted to add that the reason I liked the movie is because it followed the video game story pretty closely, The Hulk: Ultimate Destruction, which is an awesome original Xbox game!
Only skimming the thread? For shame :nono:

:P

When you do get to compare Norton and Ruffalo, you'll shit brix, or in my case, simultaneously have your jaw dropped :omg: and :drool:
Ruffalo really is Banner in the film, and is the most convincing comic book character, for me, in a Marvel film. He eclipsed Downey Jr., and that is by no mean feat at all. :eek:

I haven't played that game, mainly because, after the dismal 'The Incredible Hulk' 2005 film, I never watched the 2008 version properly (only saw a portion recently, working on watching it proper soon), nor did I know that it was part of The Marvel Cinematic Universe, so I completely missed anything to do with The Hulk until The Avengers (Assemble), and I'm working my way back to his storyline. :nod:
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Yellow, I <3 YOU!!!!!

Firstly, NEVER compare a game to the film. The game for a movie usually takes place like after or something like that OR it's a totally original addition to the story.

Action = Fun. Comparison = Shit.

Now, I could dispute "Who played who the best" until this Forum floods but I'll give my initial pro's and con's on each character compared to their comic counters. Again, fear my bias b/c I compare to the originals (Universe 616) rather than their true Ultimate inspirations. Blech. You already got my Hulk impressions:

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May 9 2012, 05:35 PM
Yellow, I <3 YOU!!!!!

Firstly, NEVER compare a game to the film. The game for a movie usually takes place like after or something like that OR it's a totally original addition to the story.

Action = Fun. Comparison = Shit.

Now, I could dispute "Who played who the best" until this Forum floods but I'll give my initial pro's and con's on each character compared to their comic counters. Again, fear my bias b/c I compare to the originals (Universe 616) rather than their true Ultimate inspirations. Blech. You already got my Hulk impressions:

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No! No Butting of heads!!!

haha

You and Yellow are much more into this stuff than I am, and that's cool. I am content just seeing my heroes come to the screen!

I was merely pointing out that the Abomination in the game (Ultimate Destruction) was very closely characterized by the movie version (Norton's Hulk).

I thought Norton was nerdy enough, but that's just my opinion. I look forward to Ruffalo's rendition.

On that note, I offer Thor's recent revealing some uncomfortable news
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Yellow, I <3 YOU!!!!!
:thnx:

:hug:

(Beware, don't listen to other forum members, I am normal, you will be ok, crisis averted... :crazy: ).

Deadpool Psycko
May 9 2012, 05:35 PM
Firstly, NEVER compare a game to the film. The game for a movie usually takes place like after or something like that OR it's a totally original addition to the story.

Action = Fun. Comparison = Shit.
You are indeed correct here, sir, but sometimes this is not the case. I trust Aslan and his thoughts, but I don't think I'll play the game in question; rather, INTERNET is my FRIEND (even though it does terrible things to my mind... :panic: ).

Deadpool Psycko
May 9 2012, 05:35 PM
Now, I could dispute "Who played who the best" until this Forum floods but I'll give my initial pro's and con's on each character compared to their comic counters. Again, fear my bias b/c I compare to the originals (Universe 616) rather than their true Ultimate inspirations. Blech. You already got my Hulk impressions:

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First, I have just recently got back into comics again. I am reading the new DC Batman #52 series, and will be venturing into Marvel soon after. Yes, I :love: both DC and Marvel, I know I am not (supposedly) a true nerd, that I am an abomination :blah:

For that reason, though I do know about the Marvel Multiverse (though I now more of the DC Multiverse, especially after the comic series fifty-Two), I am not well-versed as how The Marvel Cinematic Universe basis its characters of which Marvel comic universe.

Now:

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May 9 2012, 06:45 PM
No! No Butting of heads!!!

haha

You and Yellow are much more into this stuff than I am, and that's cool. I am content just seeing my heroes come to the screen!

I was merely pointing out that the Abomination in the game (Ultimate Destruction) was very closely characterized by the movie version (Norton's Hulk).

I thought Norton was nerdy enough, but that's just my opinion. I look forward to Ruffalo's rendition.

On that note, I offer Thor's recent revealing some uncomfortable news
Fair enough on Abomination but I hated his movie appearance. He looked like Creature From the Black Lagoon had it mated with Roger Clemens.

Hmm, I may have to go replay Hulk: UD now to see that. I remember it but I was actually more impressed with the Mech Variety and Devil Hulk.

Nahhh. Norton's too much of a badass. Ruffalo hasn't really hit those chops yet...'til he became the Green Goliath.
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you gotta try Ultimate Destruction! you get to use a utility pole as a bat to see how far out to sea you can swing and hit soldiers! Also, get to destroy pretty much everything. great fun.
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