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| Deadpool Psycko | May 10 2012, 07:42 PM Post #1 |
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First and foremost - Opinions are welcomed and respected but do not mistake them for facts. That being said, post your honest thoughts logically and respectfully. Been seeing a lot of heated discussions as well as partaking on Obama's recent Pro Gay Marriage statement. Most that know me, KNOW I'm a controversial mother fucker. Sadly, by nature, I tend to enjoy a lot of things that piss people off due to over-sensitivity. I also am completely against any discrimination based off the simplistic things like Religious Belief, Gender, Color, Nationality and Sexual Preference. These are personal issues that vary from person to person but the average ignorant Joe will lump them all together. I have ALWAYS said that Color, Gender, Sexual Preference, etc do not define if a person is an asshole. If you're an asshole, you're an asshole. If there's anyone I DO discriminate against, very publicly too, is Pious Religious Fanatics. Normally, I would totally respect them as much as everyone else except for one small fact - They don't use Facts. The average fanatic will immediately condemn something the "Good Book" tells them to. Forgetting the fact that more people than anything else have been killed in the name of said Book and it's God. My big defense is that "If it does not affect your day to day life, it should not bother you." For all you know, that neighbor you say hello to everyday is sacrificing lambs in their garage and eating the hearts of unborn children. I'm also a huge Agnostic, in that I believe SOMETHING is out there...but without proof, i'm not going to just decide on something when there's too many choices. In Religion - One or all of them are wrong and I'm not playing ring around the rosie with my Soul. I'll base my answer off of logic. I'm obviously very much for Gay people having the same rights as everyone else as Mr. Lincoln once proclaimed - "All Men Are Created Equal" for America. It's a shame that less than half the country doesn't abide by this. The icing on my being for it is a family member is Gay and is probably one of the most charitable, do-gooder kind of person I've met. They shouldn't be judged by their sexual preferences especially when the big religious group surrounding the controversy is a hypocritical group anyway with the Priest and Little Boys Scandals. Far as I can remember, there weren't many or even ANY arrests in the accusations. I believe most just got transferred. Even so, if ONE was simply transferred and kept their position, doesn't that come off as fishy? Honest question. Thoughts? |
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| SgtMaj AJJ | May 10 2012, 08:20 PM Post #2 |
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I avoid referring to myself as an atheist, or even an agnostic, preferring to stay under the radar, or even a rock, coming out only to battle against religious perversion as it rears its disgusting head. To be an Atheist, one is always on the receiving end of "how do you know for a fact there ISNT blah, blah". While Agnostic is the safer label, for me personally, it's too close a label to Baptist. Since this isn't a thread about labels, religious perversion (read: ALL), or my opinion, but rather a human right, I'll put those thoughts back on the shelf. An overarching perspective I've attempted to maintain over the past couple of years, is relating those misguided delusional brothers and sisters to an earlier time in history. At one time, people swore up and down that the world was flat. At one time, people swore up and down that the Sun rotated around the Earth. Gay Marriage is no different than Abortion, or any other fundamental human right that's distorted and in the name of god used to divide societies. (The US isn't alone in the share of backwoods ignorance) Standing against Gay Marriage, or any other fundamental human right, is no different to me than thinking the world is flat. It's just wrong and over time shift happens. We are here, The Pale Blue Dot. |
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| Deadpool Psycko | May 10 2012, 08:29 PM Post #3 |
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Well said, sir. Respect for you +10. I've used the Earth is Flat argument many times as well. When they try to back it up with The Big Cheeses benevolence, I refer them to The Old Testament - featuring a very vengeful, jealous God and the New Testament which paints God in the light of Jesus with "Turn the other cheek". Hmmm.... lol But I still take respects for "To each their own" but when you start preaching to the point of enforcing...then I have issues. My major point was, if all of this stuff is Gods will...shouldn't the finality of it be left between God and said individuals? I've read the Bible twice in my whole life, cover to cover and I don't recall anywhere stating that Man should enforce God's decisions by action. God just said "No" to a lot of things and it was up to the individual to follow or falter from the decree and will be Judged upon Judgement Day You seen Red State? Paints a good picture of the dangers of Fanatics. |
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| SgtMaj AJJ | May 10 2012, 08:42 PM Post #4 |
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Red State should be required viewing, and subsequent study, by 5th graders. Granted, my 5th grader isn't allowed to see it ![]() |
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| Deadpool Psycko | May 10 2012, 09:01 PM Post #5 |
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It was a bit brash but scarily informative! Goodman rocked my socks off lol! |
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| Deadpool Psycko | May 11 2012, 04:10 PM Post #6 |
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Obviously, the silly little pervert in me is all "I would be on that until I left for college!!" The real me is actually pretty much against breast feeding in public...let alone to a 3 year old child! Before I get lambasted - Hey, if it works in your home - Go for it - But keep it in your home, please. This is a clear cut case of discretion and respect for public decency. A friend of mine posted about this and claimed "She's not shy. She'll breast-feed anywhere." I posed the question of what would happen if a group of young boys started staring?? Hey, you're not shy, right? You are in fact, instigating it. Breast feeding is a beautiful and natural thing - but so is Sex and everyone isn't out fucking on every corner, now are they? |
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| snickerdoodle | May 11 2012, 04:16 PM Post #7 |
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So if a mom is out with her baby somewhere and the baby gets hungry, you'd rather her go to the bathroom and feed the baby or something? Why? Would YOU want to eat your meals in the bathroom? |
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| Deadpool Psycko | May 11 2012, 04:28 PM Post #8 |
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DIdn't say bathroom but there ARE areas that are out of public view. I'm just against that IF you don't have adequate cover. I've seen women BF in public and some kid starts staring and she gets offended/upset. YOUR FUCKING TIT IS HANGING OUT!!!!! Be a guy for a day. Try scratching your balls in public b/c that is god damned uncomfortable and see how many women look at you like a pervert. But that's just as natural if not more than breastfeeding and on a much smaller scale. Also, my sister just had her child in April. She does the breast pump which is just as natural and discretionary. Is it perverted for guys to stare. I very much believe so. Should you say something if they DO? I don't think you can b/c if it's natural then you shouldn't be ashamed at ALL. |
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| ASLANS R0AR | May 11 2012, 04:37 PM Post #9 |
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Unless said ball-scratching somehow brings necessary nutrition for your child to live, the analogy falls apart. It's not the same thing at all. Public breastfeeding can be done modestly and with discretion (my wife always used a little blanket thingy). It should not be banned, nor should it be an object of leering for pervs, but I do think it should be allowed & encouraged with a measure of discretion. I remember a time on a Vancouver, BC skytrain when a young Mom whipped out her breast right in front of me to feed her child; she made a bit of an object of herself by doing it that way, but it doesn't mean all breastfeeding should be banned from public transit! Edited by ASLANS R0AR, May 11 2012, 04:41 PM.
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| Deadpool Psycko | May 11 2012, 04:42 PM Post #10 |
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I'll take that defense. It's mainly the picture that displays it as sort of gloating, i guess. Sorry, I'm outspoken but not judgmental. Sue me (don't...I'm broke) |
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| Deadpool Psycko | May 11 2012, 04:43 PM Post #11 |
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I have NO problem with the blanket! It's the bare-breast in public. I'm a guy. I understand how we think and majority are going to attempt to sneak a peak. |
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| ASLANS R0AR | May 11 2012, 04:49 PM Post #12 |
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I would agree with you that the Time Cover pic is a bit over the top. Women need to understand that breastfeeding in public can provoke the eyes of men to leer, so they should use discretion where possible. Men need to understand that for women there is nothing sexual about breastfeeding, so don't take it as an invitation to stare or worse, proposition her! A little self-control on both sides, I say. |
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| Deadpool Psycko | May 11 2012, 04:57 PM Post #13 |
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Could not agree more. |
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| snickerdoodle | May 11 2012, 05:03 PM Post #14 |
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The Time cover is intended to be sensationalistic, there's no doubt in my mind. Even on one of my other boards which is notoriously pro BF'ing, extended BF'ing, Attachment Parenting, etc, they all think it's over the top. There's not a single person on there that thinks it's a great idea. Most of them are sure the mom is only trying to launch her modeling career.
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| Deadpool Psycko | May 11 2012, 05:06 PM Post #15 |
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My sister pumps in front of me. Doesn't bother me. But my sister is the snappy type to say it's natural but will flip out on a dude staring. That's just semi-hypocritical to me. But again, she pumps so it's obviously all discretion. She's not the shy type too but just hoping you see where the explosiveness lies. I'm against THAT. |
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| Deadpool Psycko | May 11 2012, 05:11 PM Post #16 |
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In fact, one of my sisters friends (also a mother) posted a link to the article and her friends immediately read what I said (I'm actually even more in detail in that discussion) as "I'm against breast feeding" which I had to re-iterate for them. One came back with "Sorry, I was just too angry and overlooked that." Which is part of my argument. Sensitivity immediately trumped my rationality. I didn't even ask for an apology and she still kind of gave me an attitude. I posted this ![]() *sigh* |
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| ASLANS R0AR | May 11 2012, 05:36 PM Post #17 |
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I can understand your point, and agree with what you just said. Your initial post was a bit explosive in itself, which probably created more backlash than you intended (can only speak for myself, but initially you did seem to be against public breastfeeding in general, without qualification; further posts have shown this to be false). Edited by ASLANS R0AR, May 11 2012, 05:37 PM.
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| Deadpool Psycko | May 11 2012, 05:48 PM Post #18 |
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You're right, I did come off that way in that post. Oopsies Yeah, I'm totally against a dude staring but I'm glad you find the agreement with me that it's still kind of a Two Way Street. Breast Feeding I can totally agree with is a Mothers deal 100%. This I just felt is in the realms of offering my opinion JUST b/c it's "today's society." Maybe 100+ years ago, I'm sure there weren't slack-jawed morons gaggling to catch a nipple slipple. |
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| SgtMaj AJJ | May 11 2012, 08:58 PM Post #19 |
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Woman, doesn't matter the age, let's just assume legal, has PINK STUFF emblazoned across her ass cheeks in shorts that are just long enough to cover the bottom of the aforementioned cheeks. Before I get to my point; I don't give two shits what anyone wears. Those shorts are specifically designed to draw everyone's focus to her hind quarters. Since a glance, look or stare is time based, and the amount of time spent in that state of glancing, looking or staring is relative to the individual, you'll probably catch me at least looking, if not staring. Not in a lustful, longing, gotta get my junk near/in her junk kinda way. But rather, 1) You had me at Pink and Stuff, 2) Does it warrant my attention or is attention being drawn to an unflattering feature (boil on the back of the leg), then 3) If warranted, congrats to her. "If you got it, flaunt it". The office co-worker that wears a top cut close to too low for professional attire (Read: the top half of her tits are exposed), is wearing that top for the same reason PINK STUFF wore hers. To get attention or draw focus. In the office environment, unless I have my sunglasses on, you won't even be able to tell I took a glance, but I did (CYA ya know). The new mother, that whips her feeding machine out in public not covered by a feeding blanket, or sheet of plywood, should expect no less of a glance, look, stare effect, than PINK STUFF or Office Boobs. For me personally, as a father of 3 (two oldest were breast fed for 2 months, then she pumped), the breasts still have a dual purpose: Sexual and Functional. The Breastfeeding mother that whips it out can expect first that I think of it as sexual (It's not everyday you can stroll through the mall and tits are on display in the food court. I pay a nearby gentlemen’s club too much for it to be free in the mall). Once that kid latches on though, every bit of sexuality is removed. For me it is then just an amazing selfless act that reminds me of feelings I had when wife 1 or 2 did the same for my children. It's not wrong for someone to look (staring is pervy). It's not wrong for a woman to breastfeed. Both are entirely natural and should be expected. |
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| Deadpool Psycko | May 11 2012, 09:21 PM Post #20 |
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I HATE the Pink/Juicy shit on chicks' ass. Mainly b/c it's BEGGING to be looked at...then they get mad when you do. Sorry, I want to be sure. You never know what's juicy or tangy...O.o |
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