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EcoEarth and ReptiBark
Topic Started: Aug 24 2009, 10:59 PM (122 Views)
K_Ram	Aug 24 2009, 10:59 PM Post #1
HerpinVert Expert Posts: 1,012 Group: Members Member #1,418 Joined: July 3, 2009	Do I need to worry about mites if I use either of these substrates? I'm thinking about using aspen shavings so that I can see the poo easier for spot cleaning. If I mist it a couple times a day will that be sufficient for keeping the humidity up?
	*Kim*


ReptileMan27	Aug 25 2009, 12:28 AM Post #2
Admin/Owner Posts: 9,355 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: May 17, 2006	If your cage holds the humidity good enough then misting once or twice a day while using aspen is good. The only time you really need to worry about raising the humidity and misting good is right before and during shed. The rest of the time do not need to worry about the humidity as much.. The only problem with aspen I find is when it gets wet you will get mold.
	Jason Site Owner/Admin Albany Pararormal Research Society My Youtube Channel Quote: Its not about our guns, its about our rights


K_Ram	Aug 25 2009, 10:07 AM Post #3
HerpinVert Expert Posts: 1,012 Group: Members Member #1,418 Joined: July 3, 2009	Ok thanks. Do you know if EcoEarth or ReptiBark are prone to mites?
	*Kim*


T&K Brouse	Aug 25 2009, 11:18 AM Post #4
HerpinVert God Posts: 2,665 Group: Members Member #484 Joined: October 28, 2007	See, I never had any luck with bps on Aspen. They had crappy sheds and seemed to get more respiritory issues from the lack of humidity. The up side of Aspen, though, was how easy it was to treat for mites. Just spray the stuff down with Equate, fluff it up, let it dry and add the snake. Mites are gone within 2 days. Now, because ReptiBark and EcoEarth are usually kept somewhat damp, you are suceptible to mites, but, if they aren't there to begin with, you really shouldn't have too much of an issue. One thing you could do, and it requires a little more upkeep, is use Eco Earth as your primary substrate, then use some Aspen over certain areas. This will give som dryer spots and adds more texture which will give your animal something else to move around in and makes a bland floor a little more aesthetic.
	Hau, kola!


K_Ram	Aug 25 2009, 01:59 PM Post #5
HerpinVert Expert Posts: 1,012 Group: Members Member #1,418 Joined: July 3, 2009	Cool thanks. I may use a combo then. I've heard you can bake the stuff in a turkey pan at 250 for a couple hours to before using to kill any parasites. Think that would work?
	*Kim*


T&K Brouse	Aug 25 2009, 05:44 PM Post #6
HerpinVert God Posts: 2,665 Group: Members Member #484 Joined: October 28, 2007	I've never done it before, but I'd imagine it would work fine. Usually, if you get the blocks of EcoEarth and soak them down, they're just fine. Sprouted a mushroom, but never had an issue with any kind of bug.
	Hau, kola!


K_Ram	Aug 25 2009, 08:54 PM Post #7
HerpinVert Expert Posts: 1,012 Group: Members Member #1,418 Joined: July 3, 2009	Thanks K. Guess the water would drown any mites that could possibly be already in the block.
	*Kim*


fearnofish	Aug 26 2009, 07:46 PM Post #8
Marine Science Technician Posts: 317 Group: Members Member #1,337 Joined: January 21, 2009	Once again I'm gonna promote Coco Soft but I think I'm the only one that likes it. Maybe I'm stuck in a world outside of the rest of the herp community. Oh well
	(Aidan) -Change is the only Constant! 0.1 Normal Ball Python 0.1 Pink Pastel RTB 1.0 Hemmingway cat 1.0 Mainecoon cat 1.0 Albino Pacman


K_Ram	Aug 26 2009, 07:57 PM Post #9
HerpinVert Expert Posts: 1,012 Group: Members Member #1,418 Joined: July 3, 2009	Can you buy the coco soft anywhere besides online? Also, does it hold humidity well and have you ever had mite problems when using it?
	*Kim*


fearnofish	Aug 26 2009, 08:22 PM Post #10
Marine Science Technician Posts: 317 Group: Members Member #1,337 Joined: January 21, 2009	I pick it up at a local shop, so I know that it is available, whether it's around you I'm not sure. But even if you purchase it online I feel it's worth it. It looks good, smells good, holds humidity great, allows your herps to mold it to they're liking whether they like to burrow or just lay on top and its extremely easy to clean. Coconut husk is the best all natural substrate to use because of it's natural odor controlling capabilities. Not to mention you never have to worry about impaction. And no, never had a mite issue. Though I also regularly treat my snakes skins with an aloe solution which helps too. I'm a little biased if you can't tell. Edited by fearnofish, Aug 26 2009, 08:24 PM.
	(Aidan) -Change is the only Constant! 0.1 Normal Ball Python 0.1 Pink Pastel RTB 1.0 Hemmingway cat 1.0 Mainecoon cat 1.0 Albino Pacman


ReptileMan27	Aug 26 2009, 08:28 PM Post #11
Admin/Owner Posts: 9,355 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: May 17, 2006	That stuff is made by that blue iguana or whatever its called right?. If so do not think any of there products really hit any of the big chain stores yet.. At least I have never seen them around here.. Some reptile shops may carry them..
	Jason Site Owner/Admin Albany Pararormal Research Society My Youtube Channel Quote: Its not about our guns, its about our rights


fearnofish	Aug 26 2009, 08:32 PM Post #12
Marine Science Technician Posts: 317 Group: Members Member #1,337 Joined: January 21, 2009	Yea, your probably right.
	(Aidan) -Change is the only Constant! 0.1 Normal Ball Python 0.1 Pink Pastel RTB 1.0 Hemmingway cat 1.0 Mainecoon cat 1.0 Albino Pacman


K_Ram	Aug 27 2009, 12:01 AM Post #13
HerpinVert Expert Posts: 1,012 Group: Members Member #1,418 Joined: July 3, 2009	Thanks for the info Aiden. I checked out their site, but it wouldn't give me the option to place an order. Just took me to a black page with the buy locally icon. I'll check back later. Maybe their site is just having problems. It's sort of like eco earth tho right...I mean it starts out with the same main ingredient I think. Anyway, does the poo hide as easily in it as it does in the other substrates in question? lol Easy clean-up without a total cage change every time would be nice.
	*Kim*


fearnofish	Aug 27 2009, 01:39 PM Post #14
Marine Science Technician Posts: 317 Group: Members Member #1,337 Joined: January 21, 2009	Depends on your snake whether it likes to burrow or just hang out on top. Mine do a little of both so sometimes its in plain veiw and you just pull it out other times you might have to dig around.
	(Aidan) -Change is the only Constant! 0.1 Normal Ball Python 0.1 Pink Pastel RTB 1.0 Hemmingway cat 1.0 Mainecoon cat 1.0 Albino Pacman


JP3 Master 10	Aug 28 2009, 10:11 PM Post #15
HerpinVert Senior Posts: 802 Group: Members Member #507 Joined: November 16, 2007	Yeah EcoEarth is the Best.For cleanup a table spoon set aside for cage cleaning only is good for scooping poo lol.
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