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| Commie-Red | Jan 5 2009, 07:09 AM Post #1 |
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I for one am glad that Isreal has sent troops there to protect its people from Hamas. Who are shooting missles at innocent Israelies. If they hide among civilians so be it, cut the cancer out, some healthy tissue lost is an acceptable downside to carve out the treacherous cancer. /discuss |
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| DragonLegend | Jan 5 2009, 07:52 AM Post #2 |
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Israel took it a step further. Now they're aiming to defeat Hamas...or at least hit them pretty hard so they're not a major threat to Israel any more. |
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| TheNewRommel1 | Jan 5 2009, 09:15 AM Post #3 |
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![]() You'r right damn those Palestinians, They do so much harm to Israel. |
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The heart should only exist to pump blood to the brain and rest of the body anything else is a waste of time and energy. Love and Hate are only impediments to the human condition. Imagine what could be accomplished if only the human race could shed our humanity. When the facts change, my mind changes. What do you do, sir? AWESOME HITCH (CLICKY) | |
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| DragonLegend | Jan 5 2009, 10:58 AM Post #4 |
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Damn those Jews for spending some of their money on bomb shelters, good buldings and sirens to protect their citizens instead of spending it all on weapons to kill the enemy. Btw, Gaza has recieved billions of aid over the years, and they spent it all on weapons. So keep your anti-Israel fallacies and propaganda out of this thread. |
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| MaxJ | Jan 5 2009, 02:02 PM Post #5 |
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It would be good if they can stop Hammas but thsi war doesn't bring anything good to the world
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| TheNewRommel1 | Jan 5 2009, 08:19 PM Post #6 |
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I'll start off militarily. The whole plan for the "degradation of Hamas' ability to wage war and there will to fight" is quite absurd in its planning. They say they have "learned" from there failed Lebanese campaign but that is a blatant lie. The use of Heavy Air Strikes and Tanks against Insurgents renowned for "hugging", a military term in which Hostiles stay close to civilians, is truly idiotic. The use of Heavy Artillery Strikes, Heavy Air Attacks, and Missile attacks only does one thing and that is alienate the populace. So, by alienation of the populace Israel achieves one thing giving Hamas more recruits, support, and a greater will to fight. In order to successfully "destroy" Hamas you need to use a almost exclusively foot mobile force. Also, A constant use of Helicopters conducting S&D missions, especially at night. Therefore, What we see here is complete Israeli failure to achieve there objectives. Instead, There is a complete opposite outcome. Not to mention the utter waste of Israeli dollars using extreme high-tech weapons to kill a largely ill-trained and ill-equipped force. |
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The heart should only exist to pump blood to the brain and rest of the body anything else is a waste of time and energy. Love and Hate are only impediments to the human condition. Imagine what could be accomplished if only the human race could shed our humanity. When the facts change, my mind changes. What do you do, sir? AWESOME HITCH (CLICKY) | |
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| Commie-Red | Jan 6 2009, 12:34 AM Post #7 |
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Hamas brought this upon themselves, and are now suffering the consequences. |
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| Commie-Red | Jan 6 2009, 12:37 AM Post #8 |
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You're ignoring the fact that the ground troops Isreal has sent there are highly trained in urban/street combat. |
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| TheNewRommel1 | Jan 6 2009, 04:34 AM Post #9 |
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How many times have they sent these highly trained forces in and Hamas still remained? Also, They are still using strikes which once again accomplishes nothing but the opposite. |
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The heart should only exist to pump blood to the brain and rest of the body anything else is a waste of time and energy. Love and Hate are only impediments to the human condition. Imagine what could be accomplished if only the human race could shed our humanity. When the facts change, my mind changes. What do you do, sir? AWESOME HITCH (CLICKY) | |
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| DragonLegend | Jan 6 2009, 05:54 AM Post #10 |
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Um, actually, the air strikes severely damaged Hamas. |
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| TheNewRommel1 | Jan 6 2009, 06:16 AM Post #11 |
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The air strikes have managed nothing against the armed wing of Hamas. There is still missiles fired into Israel, around 20 today I think. Essentially, The air strikes have damaged the Political arm of Hamas, need I mention a democratically elected group. |
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The heart should only exist to pump blood to the brain and rest of the body anything else is a waste of time and energy. Love and Hate are only impediments to the human condition. Imagine what could be accomplished if only the human race could shed our humanity. When the facts change, my mind changes. What do you do, sir? AWESOME HITCH (CLICKY) | |
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| DragonLegend | Jan 6 2009, 06:25 AM Post #12 |
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I'm sorry, but HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! I guess you're too blinded by your hate to accept the facts. |
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| TheNewRommel1 | Jan 6 2009, 06:31 AM Post #13 |
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Sorry, but are you a troll? or are you really that ignorant. The places the Israeli military has attacked are the Political wing of Hamas. I guess you could say they have killed some security units for the buildings and maybe some minor level personnel. So far as the true Armed wing and the high level leadership remains intact. Please, Show me your facts. |
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The heart should only exist to pump blood to the brain and rest of the body anything else is a waste of time and energy. Love and Hate are only impediments to the human condition. Imagine what could be accomplished if only the human race could shed our humanity. When the facts change, my mind changes. What do you do, sir? AWESOME HITCH (CLICKY) | |
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| DragonLegend | Jan 6 2009, 09:03 AM Post #14 |
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I don't need to show you any facts. There's a thing called "Google"; use it. I'm not gonna waste 15 minutes looking up sources to counter your obvious bias. |
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| Lazurath | Jan 6 2009, 04:01 PM Post #15 |
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Oh, I'm sorry, I wasn't aware people were allowed an opinion any more. Dragon, stop being such a douche. Like, honestly. Rommel, stop being so biased towards anything Dragon hates (even if most of the time it's wrong anyway) Commie, stop being so influenced by US propaganda. Dragon, please state some actual facts. Just saying "use google" is like saying "if you want to drive a car, play Mario Kart." What are we supposed to google? "Israels intentions for Gaza in the developing Israel-Arab conflict?" You forget the obvious fact that Israel is backed the most powerful nation on earth, who sell them weapons and technology, and who strongly support Israel's attack on the Palestinians (War on Terror, anyone?), and who, along with Canada and the EU has denied all funds to Gaza after the 2006 conflict (billions of dollars of aid, you say?) "Economic output in the Gaza Strip declined by about one-third between 1992 and 1996. An important hindrance to economic development is the lack of a sea harbour. A harbour was built in Gaza city with help from France and the Netherlands, but was regularly bombed by Israel. As a result, any international transports (both trade and aid) have to go through Israel, which are hindered by the imposition of generalized border closures. A serious negative social effect of this downturn was the emergence of high unemployment." - on economy of Gaza "On January 24, 2008, the United Nations Human Rights Council released a statement calling for Israel to lift its "siege" on the Gaza Strip, allow the continued supply of food, fuel, and medicine, and reopen border crossings. According to the Jerusalem Post, this was the 15th time in less than two years the council condemned Israel for its human rights record regarding the Palestinian territories. The proceedings were boycotted by Israel and the United States." - on the supply situation in Gaza "International reactions to the conflict have either condemned the Israeli operation, Hamas' attacks, or both. Many countries and organisations have called for an immediate ceasefire and have expressed concern about the humanitarian situation in the Gaza Strip. Israel maintains that a humanitarian cease-fire is not necessary at this point. Israel's foreign minister Tzipi Livni has stated that there's no humanitarian crisis in Gaza, and that the humanitarian situation in Gaza is "completely as it should be". The International Red Cross said the situation was "intolerable" and a "full blown humanitarian crisis."" - on the humanitarian situation in Gaza "At the United Nations, the United States thwarted an effort by Libya to persuade the Security Council to call for an immediate ceasefire, diplomats said." - US views of Israeli/Gaza diplomacy Yes, they really are trying to eliminate the Hamas government with as little loss of life, aren't they? :rolleyes: Click. Now we all support the Israelis, don't we? Look, yes I am being a little harsh, and it may seem like I'm anti-Israel (which I am, to an extent), but all I'm trying to prove is that this isn't some sort of glorious Service to the World where the good guys are pushing back the bad guys one sweat at a time-type propaganda shit which you make it out to be. Hamas certainly isn't in the right, they're just a shitty government pretender who look for personal gain, but the innocent Palestinians caught in the crossfire have done nothing wrong. This is a simple invasion of land, like 99% of all conflicts before. The Israelis are testing out their new toys on the militants, and they use the excuse of the deaths of six Israelis to start a siege (reminiscent of the medieval sieges) and subsequent invasion of Gaza. In a nutshell: it is war for land, that is all. |
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