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| Ww2nerd | Jan 6 2009, 11:29 PM Post #16 |
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"There are strange things done in the midnight sun, by the men who moil for gold; the arctic trails have their secret tales that'd make your blood run cold... the Northern Lights have seen queer sights, but the queerest they ever did see... was that night on the marge of Lake LeBarge, that I cremated Sam McGee." - Robert W. Service | |
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| TheNewRommel1 | Jan 7 2009, 12:18 AM Post #17 |
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I just defended Dragon in another thread and If I am bias it is only becuase I have a tendency to be biased for the truth. |
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The heart should only exist to pump blood to the brain and rest of the body anything else is a waste of time and energy. Love and Hate are only impediments to the human condition. Imagine what could be accomplished if only the human race could shed our humanity. When the facts change, my mind changes. What do you do, sir? AWESOME HITCH (CLICKY) | |
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| Ww2nerd | Jan 7 2009, 01:15 AM Post #18 |
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You said it. |
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"There are strange things done in the midnight sun, by the men who moil for gold; the arctic trails have their secret tales that'd make your blood run cold... the Northern Lights have seen queer sights, but the queerest they ever did see... was that night on the marge of Lake LeBarge, that I cremated Sam McGee." - Robert W. Service | |
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| DragonLegend | Jan 7 2009, 03:21 AM Post #19 |
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Opinion = God exists Lie/fallacy = Palestine doesn't do much harm to Israel You see the difference?
Why should I? You and I both know that whatever I use to backup my statements would do nothing to change Rommel's mind.
The US backing is strictly political. We don't send them Marines to help them, just money and weapons. So does Canada, btw.
The US doesn't support Israel's attack on the "Palestinians"; The US supports Israel's self-defense act against the terrorist government of Gaza.
Yes, from many of their fellow Arab countries.
That's bullshit. I can tell whoever wrote that is biased against Israel.
Yes, they are. It's not my (or Israel's) fault Hamas put their buildings next to civilians.
Yes, they have; they elected Hamas. And most of the Palestinians support violence against Israel over peace talks. They want nothing but to kill the Jews.
Can you prove that? |
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| Ww2nerd | Jan 7 2009, 04:46 AM Post #20 |
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Canadians have taken to the streets to protest Israel's inhumane campaign. Bombs will kill innocents, they have to try a different tactic than the bush administration. Move in on ground. If you aren't willing to accept the deaths of a few Israeli soldiers for the removal of Hamas, Israel has absolutely no right to kill innocent palestinians for the cause. And dragonlegend, have you learned how to tell fact from opinion yet? God is real = opinion Palestine has not been a threat to israel = opinion Just because it conflicts with what your hardwired republican brain comes up with, doesn't mean it's any less true. Oh, and I would love for you to prove that Canada statistic. |
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"There are strange things done in the midnight sun, by the men who moil for gold; the arctic trails have their secret tales that'd make your blood run cold... the Northern Lights have seen queer sights, but the queerest they ever did see... was that night on the marge of Lake LeBarge, that I cremated Sam McGee." - Robert W. Service | |
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| DragonLegend | Jan 7 2009, 05:26 AM Post #21 |
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The Canadian government?
Suggestions?
According to the UN Charter Art. 51, yeah they do.
5000+ rockets isn't a threat?
What statistic? I said Canada sold weapons to Israel. That's a fact. |
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| Commie-Red | Jan 7 2009, 07:10 AM Post #22 |
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Hamas was shooting missles at Isreal. The invasion is retribution that Hamas has brought upon themselves. As of today they still continue to shoot missles over into Isreal. Also, yes Isreal has sent in ground troops to combat the Hamas militants. As we speak the Isreali soldiers are engaged in street/urban combat. Also about the matter of the air strikes, air bombings, and artillery barrage, cut the cancer out, some healthy tissue lost is an acceptable downside to carve out the treacherous cancer. |
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| DragonLegend | Jan 7 2009, 08:24 AM Post #23 |
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Hey, why are you banned on Agecomm? :wacko: |
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| TheNewRommel1 | Jan 7 2009, 08:48 AM Post #24 |
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Dragon, anyone will tell you Israel has had a blockade on Palestine for at least the last three years. Palestinians elected Hamas because they have been under a blockade and constantly harassed by Israel for the last 60 or so years. They see no other choice, especially since Fatah is weak. Hamas doesn't get "billions" in aid, maybe millions, but not millions. If you disagree give a fact with the source. UN Charter Article 51 DOES NOT give anyone the right to kill innocent civilians. That is probably one of the stupidest things you have spewed out of your mouth so far. Idi AMIN killed hundreds of innocent civilians so, I guess he has the right to do so because of this article. Also, I guess If Nazi Germany was in the UN they would have the right to kill the jews too? Commie-Red, That's right Hamas does shoot missiles and they still do so looks like mighty Israel has failed. Why kill the healthy tissue if you can just remove the cancer without killing off any healthy tissue? |
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The heart should only exist to pump blood to the brain and rest of the body anything else is a waste of time and energy. Love and Hate are only impediments to the human condition. Imagine what could be accomplished if only the human race could shed our humanity. When the facts change, my mind changes. What do you do, sir? AWESOME HITCH (CLICKY) | |
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| Commie-Red | Jan 7 2009, 09:39 PM Post #25 |
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Lethe was being a b!tch. |
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| Ww2nerd | Jan 8 2009, 12:20 AM Post #26 |
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If it is a fact, then why don't you prove it. Canada hasn't sold weapons in YEARS, so unless you can prove it, its more than likely just a pathetic attempt at trying to incriminate another country in this matter. And our government does not get mixed up in affairs that do not concern them Dragonlegend. You should know that. It's a practice of the US's that we hate, and it is not our responsibility. We will help diplomatically by trying to broker peace, but we only ever get involved when we either get dragged along with the US, which our leaders are stupid enough to allow, or when the UN or NATO forces us to honor commitments. The Canadian people do not pressure our government for violent action. These were merely protests akin to those in Britian during Vietnam. They are not intended to stir up any action by our own government, they're intended to pressure another government. A trait you might find admirable of the Republicans, getting thier nose mixed up in what does not concern them, is abhorred in Canada. The only thing Canada gets mixed up in volunarily is UN and NATO commitments, and pushing world leaders to accept things with global impact (IE: Kyoto, Human Rights). That, or clemency for Canadians who are wrongly being held and tortured, or in extreme cases, face execution. That's why I'm so dissapointed, my Government has betrayed Omar Khadr, an innocent victim of a war of aggression. And obviously you know how military weapons would work. They should send in infantry. And I'm amused by your convenient omission of the rest of what I said. If Israel is not willing to accept the loss of a soldier, and thier innaccurate bombs do thier work, they have no right to kill innocents of another country. Oh, and what you said in the political thread does nothing but prove my point. Yes. I say I won't read them, but sadly, I do, because that's the person I am. However, I will not dignify you with a response addressing your issues. |
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| Commie-Red | Jan 8 2009, 04:34 AM Post #27 |
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1. Do some research on the Republican Party before you start spewing diarreah. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_Pa...(United_States) 2. Isreal has sent in soldiers into Gaza. As we speak they're fighting in urban/street combat against the Hamas Militants. 3. Isreal has suffered 16 soldiers killed, and 99 soldiers wounded. Inaccurate bombs? They're not inaccurate, it's not their fault if they kill a few unfortunate civilians because Hamas is hiding among civilians, and shooting motor shells from schools, malls, houses, etc. Isreali soldiers have given warnings to clear the area before they attack the militants in the city. |
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| DragonLegend | Jan 8 2009, 05:26 AM Post #28 |
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So has Egypt. Yet I don't see you complaining about them.
Israel blockaded Gaza after Hamas was elected and started sending in suicide bombers to Israel.
http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2008/12/17/62235.html Hamas don't get aid from the international community (they're a terrorist organization), just the PA. But it is also a fact that some Middle-Eastern countries (especially Iran) fund Hamas and Hezb'allah.
Article 51 of the United Nations Charter reserves to every nation the right to engage in self-defense against armed attacks. The only limitation international law places on a democracy is that its actions must satisfy the principle of proportionality. Israel’s actions certainly satisfy that principle. And, according to the Geneva Convention, if the enemy stores or utilizes military assets near or in a school, hospital or other civilian targets, that target is fair game. What part of that do you not get?
Last time I checked, the operation wasn't over yet.
The cancer, in this case, is Islam. ---------------------------------------------------------
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=2966
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| Ww2nerd | Jan 9 2009, 12:43 AM Post #29 |
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I've been thinking about what you've said, and now, I realize just how appallingly ignorant you really are, and you have no such right to even preach things like that as bs. When you can't discern fact from opinion, it is way below me to talk to you. @ Dragonlegend It's an opinion, and that's pathetic. I don't have to research the republican party (which I have for the record, and have been utterly disgusted) but I know for a fact that many nations the Republicans bully are no danger to them or world security. Now, your propaganda-hardwired republican brain can probably not grasp this, but as "threatening" as an Iranian with a Tan jacket might seem, he won't do anything since he knows what will happen if he does. That, and Iraq was none o the republican's business. They still haven't found WMD's, and the Iraqi people never asked for a democracy. I refer both you and dragonlegend to my most recent post in the "Odd political thread". I mean every word of it, and it is way below me to talk to that kind of person. Anything else that needs to be said from my point of view on this subject can be found in the political thread. Although I would add this: List of people I despise, lowest numbers being worst: 1. Osama Bin Laden/ Bush/ Adolf Hitler/ Josef Stalin (all kill innocents and are unjust in provocation) 2. Pope (To have that much power just because you're a religious fascist...) 3. Native people who are pampered but still complain There are of course, others, but those are the top. And dragonlegend, it's arrogant, ignorant people like you that make me want to be a commie, just so I wouldn't be associated even remotely with you. And I'm disgusted to even have to share this continent with you. Oh, some interesting statistics from a global readers digest survey (an extremely credible source) The highest global support in any one country McCain got was 31% in India. In contrast, Obama got 92% in the Netherlands. Canadians would vote for obama 5:1 over McCain, and only 1 in five would consider moving to the US if all barriers were removed. 31% of Canadians said that the environment is thier most important issue, followed by the economy and poverty. 19% of Canadians would describe themselves as anti-american under the current government (I'm not surprised to hear this) They also think Obama is the man to take care of tough issues like the Global eco and Terrorism. Yes. Obama has more support than a bloody republican for beating terrorism. All Canadians who said they didn't like McCain said it was because they felt he was to much like his failure of a predessecor (ok, personal opinion added, but they did feel he was just another "Bush") And no, you have no right to call large amounts of a populace stupid, as though a couple members may be, you are in no way smarter than 14 people (note, vast amounts more were surveyed, but 14 is a garentee, and the first number that came to mind) In fact, I would argue that Obama's overwhelming global support would show that perhaps the world aren't (isn't?) the dumb ones. That's all I'm gonna say, as you've proven yourself worse than my classmates, and as such, I have no need to debate with either of you as it does nothing to expand my intelligence, unless wasting time does that. I'll read your posts to see if that changes, as unlikely as it will. Good day. |
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| DragonLegend | Jan 9 2009, 05:03 AM Post #30 |
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How does that prove Obama is better than McCain? It just proves people support the former more than the latter. -----------------
Bin Laden: A Muslim terrorist who intentionally killed thousands of innocent people. Hitler: A man who intentionally killed millions of innocent people. Stalin: A man who intentionally killed millions of innocent people. Bush: A man who had the guts to fight terrorism, overthrow two terrorist regimes, liberate two countries, help many more countries gain their independance, and as a result of insurgencies and terrorist attacks, over 90 thousand Iraqis and Afghan died. Putting Bush in the same category with those three just proves how morally blind you are. You're disgusting. |
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