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Gaza
Topic Started: Jan 5 2009, 07:09 AM (2,403 Views)
Commie-Red
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Ww2nerd i strongly suggest you brush up on your history and do more research on the Republican Party.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_Pa...(United_States)

@DragonLegend i'm back at agecomm.
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Ww2nerd hates Republicans because they freed the slaves.

Democrats are racist, you know...
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Jan 7 2009, 03:21 AM
Opinion = God exists

Lie/fallacy = Palestine doesn't do much harm to Israel

You see the difference?


Opinion = Bush's intentions in Iraq are to free the people.
Fact = The sky is blue.
See the difference?
But you know what, you're right. PALESTINE doesn't do MUCH harm to Israel, HAMAS does PATHETIC harm to Israel which it then uses as an excuse to invade Gaza.

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Why should I? You and I both know that whatever I use to backup my statements would do nothing to change Rommel's mind.

Who ever said anything about changing Rommel's mind? Try me ;)

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The US backing is strictly political. We don't send them Marines to help them, just money and weapons. So does Canada, btw.

Yeah, Geez, sure don't know what anyone could do with weapons and money, especially fighting a war <_<

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The US doesn't support Israel's attack on the "Palestinians"; The US supports Israel's self-defense act against the terrorist government of Gaza.

Islamic militants launched several rockets on Northern Israel, exaclty the same thing the Hammas has being doing. Yet, the Israeli government is treating this as an "isolated innocedent." Why don't they just invade Labanon like they did 2 years ago?

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Yes, from many of their fellow Arab countries.

Ok, so they do, but what good is donations when there is no-one to buy off, considering Israel has blocked all access to Gaza?

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That's bullshit. I can tell whoever wrote that is biased against Israel.


Wow, Dragon, you should be proffesional debater for the White House! How can I EVER hope to rebutle what you said?

And sorry if any of these aren't credible sources:

http://www.unhchr.ch/huricane/huricane.nsf...96?opendocument
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/09/world/mi...st.html?_r=2&hp
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2008-12/...nt_10570421.htm
http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2009/01/04/63435.html
http://www.voanews.com/english/2009-01-02-voa27.cfm

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Yes, they are. It's not my (or Israel's) fault Hamas put their buildings next to civilians.

Well if they did, then it's Israel's responsibilities to eliminate these targest without civilian damage, and so far, they've done a pretty shit job at that.

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Yes, they have; they elected Hamas. And most of the Palestinians support violence against Israel over peace talks. They want nothing but to kill the Jews.

Well, Dragon, since we all know just HOW much you hate democracy, I can see why you are against one of only TWO successful Middle-Eastern democracies estabilished WITHOUT the help of your little Yankee friends to come and "help them" establish one (and unsuccessful at that, too.)

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This is a simple invasion of land, like 99% of all conflicts before. The Israelis are testing out their new toys on the militants, and they use the excuse of the deaths of six Israelis to start a siege (reminiscent of the medieval sieges) and subsequent invasion of Gaza.

In a nutshell: it is war for land, that is all.


Can you prove that?

Yes, actually. Click. And you can't call this guy for being "anti-Israel", because he is an Israeli that SERVED in the Israeli army and is loyal to his country. In fact, this could sum up my whole argument better than I ever could ;)

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Article 51 of the United Nations Charter reserves to every nation the right to engage in self-defense against armed attacks. The only limitation international law places on a democracy is that its actions must satisfy the principle of proportionality. Israel’s actions certainly satisfy that principle.

And, according to the Geneva Convention, if the enemy stores or utilizes military assets near or in a school, hospital or other civilian targets, that target is fair game.

What part of that do you not get?

Like I said, why doesn't Israel "defend" itself against Lebanon?
And what part I don't get? The part about bombing UN Schools and Universities. Maybe Hammas is using these buildings as hide-outs, but doens't mean they're allowed to kill schoolchildren to achieve the deaths of a few militants. Whilst under internation law they're "allowed" too, human responisbilty says otherwise. What's wrong with using Special Forces to eliminate the targets with as little mess?

Even the Israelis don't like the war.

Thank you, and good night. :thanks:
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I guess all I can say is: Your boring, nonsensical diatribes against Israel are as predictable as they are idiotic.
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Jan 9 2009, 12:07 PM
I guess all I can say is: Your boring, nonsensical diatribes against Israel are as predictable as they are idiotic.

Clap clap for the handicapped. Now kids, everyone is special in their own unique way, and we have to respect them, even if they do seem a little different.

Oh well, at least you tried. ;))
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Lazurath
Jan 9 2009, 01:41 PM
DragonLegend
Jan 9 2009, 12:07 PM
I guess all I can say is: Your boring, nonsensical diatribes against Israel are as predictable as they are idiotic.

Clap clap for the handicapped. Now kids, everyone is special in their own unique way, and we have to respect them, even if they do seem a little different.

Oh well, at least you tried. ;))

Well, you called me boring too yesterday so that arguement will not work against Dragon.
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DragonLegend
Jan 9 2009, 12:07 PM
I guess all I can say is: Your boring, nonsensical diatribes against Israel are as predictable as they are idiotic.

WoW Dragon good way to be completely destroyed and your only comeback is some idiotic childish response.
The heart should only exist to pump blood to the brain and rest of the body anything else is a waste of time and energy.

Love and Hate are only impediments to the human condition.

Imagine what could be accomplished if only the human race could shed our humanity.

When the facts change, my mind changes. What do you do, sir?

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DragonLegend
Jan 9 2009, 12:07 PM
I guess all I can say is: Your boring, nonsensical diatribes against Israel are as predictable as they are idiotic.

You are a crazy radical that's worse than Muslim "terrorists".
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Jan 9 2009, 05:40 PM
DragonLegend
Jan 9 2009, 12:07 PM
I guess all I can say is: Your boring, nonsensical diatribes against Israel are as predictable as they are idiotic.

WoW Dragon good way to be completely destroyed and your only comeback is some idiotic childish response.

I'm sorry, I didn't know I was supposed to reply to every single argument on this forum...

:/
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But the problem isn't that you didn't reply which would have no problem, the problem is that you did with an idiotic and childish response.
The heart should only exist to pump blood to the brain and rest of the body anything else is a waste of time and energy.

Love and Hate are only impediments to the human condition.

Imagine what could be accomplished if only the human race could shed our humanity.

When the facts change, my mind changes. What do you do, sir?

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Are you saying you didn't expect Laz to be anti-Israel?

'Cause God knows I did.
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DragonLegend
Jan 10 2009, 04:24 AM
I'm sorry, I didn't know I was supposed to reply to every single argument on this forum...

:/

Well, considering that it was directed straight at you and I rebutted your exact arguments, yeah, kinda :\
And you seem to be feel pretty strongly about your stance...


P.S. Have you seen Team America? I'm sure you'd absolutely love it ;) It was the movie MADE for Dragon
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Jan 10 2009, 03:31 PM
DragonLegend
Jan 10 2009, 04:24 AM
I'm sorry, I didn't know I was supposed to reply to every single argument on this forum...

:/

P.S. Have you seen Team America? I'm sure you'd absolutely love it ;) It was the movie MADE for Dragon

Haha yes! I love Kim Jung :wub:
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Jan 10 2009, 04:26 AM
But the problem isn't that you didn't reply which would have no problem, the problem is that you did with an idiotic and childish response.

Certainly a more eloquent speaker than me..... I gotta work on expressing my views so fundamentalists like dragon can understand them.... simple words maybe, I dunno.......

FOR THE RECORD PEOPLES, LA IS NOT MY BEST SUBJECT! ONLY 92%!!!!!!!!

I DO HOWEVER KNOW WHAT I AM TALKING ABOuT WHEN IT COMES TO WORLD EVENTS, HISTORY, AND POLITICS, SOCIAL IS A 98%.

And dragonlegend, if you weren't so.... ummmm..... yea..... I'm not gonna go there. You'd know that I've also repeatedly said that I hate the republican party's current foreign policy. Lincoln wasn't waging wars left right and center. Basically, repubs up to and including Eisenhower are good folks in my books.
After that, they are all mental midgets who'd prefer to shoot a person in the face rather than talk to them face to face.
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