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HISTORY IN THE MAKING 2008-2016

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We've spent a good many years discussing politics, life, society and history. Most of all, the makers of history. The great events that changed the world - people, places, actions. Small acts have changed its hard-worn course, and effort and circumstance can make of its small actors immortal greats. In line with that sentiment, it seems pertinent now to recognize the potential of those who've made up this community for years, obvious through their contributions to the spirited debate and discussion that has proceeded here. HITM has sadly gone silent, though perhaps not lacking for things to say about making history, but rather for the realization that it is time we all commenced to do so, and make our mark.

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Topic Started: Jan 5 2009, 07:09 AM (2,399 Views)
Hyperactive Jam
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Iraq is fundamentally flawed for democracy. You have multiple armed factions competeing for political dominance, similar to the inter war period in Europe. Fascism work for Europe, ignoring the WW2 part of course as that was related to other conditions. Hitler took a nation from an unemployment rate of >18% to a worker shortage and a worthless dollar. Again remember that the holocaust and WW2 had separate causes than fascism. Fascism worked for Iraq and Saddam was even secular. Sure democracy is nice, but what cost is worth it?
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Hyperactive Jam
Jan 20 2009, 03:45 AM
Iraq is fundamentally flawed for democracy. You have multiple armed factions competeing for political dominance, similar to the inter war period in Europe. Fascism work for Europe, ignoring the WW2 part of course as that was related to other conditions. Hitler took a nation from an unemployment rate of >18% to a worker shortage and a worthless dollar. Again remember that the holocaust and WW2 had separate causes than fascism. Fascism worked for Iraq and Saddam was even secular. Sure democracy is nice, but what cost is worth it?

100% agree.
Yes, you can say that Saddam murdered all those innocent civilians, but in the Middle East only heavy-handed (even if to excess) tactics are what keep the population in order.

Tell me, Dragon, why do we not invade Saudi Arabia or the UAE for the purpose of "spreading democracy?"
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Why is everyone discussing Iraq? :wacko:
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Because Israel and Gaza now have a permanent Cease Fire in effect. Also, they are about to be financially raped:

http://haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1056677.html
"The wages of sin is death but so is the salary of virtue, and at least the evil get to go home early on Fridays." - Terry Pratchett, Small Gods
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Ww2nerd
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Sick how Israel is preparing for a barrage of war crimes, even though nobody has raised a complaint against the US for similiar practices.
"There are strange things done in the midnight sun,
by the men who moil for gold; the arctic trails have their secret tales that'd make your blood run cold...
the Northern Lights have seen queer sights, but the queerest they ever did see...
was that night on the marge of Lake LeBarge, that I cremated Sam McGee."

- Robert W. Service
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Parasky
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Ww2nerd
Jan 21 2009, 11:27 PM
Sick how Israel is preparing for a barrage of war crimes, even though nobody has raised a complaint against the US for similiar practices.

Nobody dares sues a nation whose citizens sue fast food restaurants for making them fat.
"The wages of sin is death but so is the salary of virtue, and at least the evil get to go home early on Fridays." - Terry Pratchett, Small Gods
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WE ARE THE KINGS OF LAWSUITS!!!!!!!!!!
(oh shit, and queens)
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Jack the IV
Jan 22 2009, 02:47 AM
WE ARE THE KINGS OF LAWSUITS!!!!!!!!!!
(oh shit, and queens)

DID you, or did you NOT make SEXIST comments in referral to America's general ability to sue for the most pathetic of reasons?!
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Crap jack, you're screwed now!
"There are strange things done in the midnight sun,
by the men who moil for gold; the arctic trails have their secret tales that'd make your blood run cold...
the Northern Lights have seen queer sights, but the queerest they ever did see...
was that night on the marge of Lake LeBarge, that I cremated Sam McGee."

- Robert W. Service
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Ww2nerd
Jan 22 2009, 11:08 AM
Crap jack, you're screwed now!

I'm going to sue his ass for emotional damage. Anyone interested in making it class action?
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Parasky
Jan 21 2009, 01:50 AM
Because Israel and Gaza now have a permanent Cease Fire in effect. Also, they are about to be financially raped:

http://haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1056677.html

Permanant, my ass.

Cease fires are just time for Hamas to re-group, re-arm, and then do it all over again.
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Hyperactive Jam
Jan 22 2009, 10:03 PM
Ww2nerd
Jan 22 2009, 11:08 AM
Crap jack, you're screwed now!

I'm going to sue his ass for emotional damage. Anyone interested in making it class action?

YOU CAN'T. YOU ARE CANADIAN AND HAVE NO JURISDICTION IN AMERICAN COURTS OF LAW. I COULD SUE YOU FOR FRAUD! YOU'RE NOT AMERICAN!
"The wages of sin is death but so is the salary of virtue, and at least the evil get to go home early on Fridays." - Terry Pratchett, Small Gods
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I can sue someone from another country.
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Ww2nerd
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Just because you don't live in that country, doesn't mean you can't be sued. Only difference is which civil court hears the case.
"There are strange things done in the midnight sun,
by the men who moil for gold; the arctic trails have their secret tales that'd make your blood run cold...
the Northern Lights have seen queer sights, but the queerest they ever did see...
was that night on the marge of Lake LeBarge, that I cremated Sam McGee."

- Robert W. Service
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