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It's Saturady, Lets Check The Obamameter
Topic Started: Feb 1 2009, 02:05 AM (409 Views)
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To see what he's got done this week.

http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/
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Well, he plans to fund abortions worldwide with American tax-payer money. That should be nice. Oh and, he legalized infanticide. Oh and, he's gonna flush about a trillion dollars down the toilet by, like, 2010.

# 176 and 175 are false, though. Obama's gonna keep using torture.
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Feb 1 2009, 02:19 AM
# 176 and 175 are false, though. Obama's gonna keep using torture.

Ok, so now Obama's the evil one for something that Bush started?
I agree I don't like the bloke nearly as much as I did during his campaign, but he's not gonna destroy the world. He's just gonna be a Black President, with all the usual flaws and strengths of a normal president. He'll always get the criticism, but that's inevitable as leader of the free world.
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Feb 1 2009, 02:19 AM
Well, he plans to fund abortions worldwide with American tax-payer money. That should be nice. Oh and, he legalized infanticide. Oh and, he's gonna flush about a trillion dollars down the toilet by, like, 2010.

# 176 and 175 are false, though. Obama's gonna keep using torture.

Fetus =/= Infant
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Feb 1 2009, 04:56 AM
DragonLegend
Feb 1 2009, 02:19 AM
# 176 and 175 are false, though. Obama's gonna keep using torture.

Ok, so now Obama's the evil one for something that Bush started?
I agree I don't like the bloke nearly as much as I did during his campaign, but he's not gonna destroy the world. He's just gonna be a Black President, with all the usual flaws and strengths of a normal president. He'll always get the criticism, but that's inevitable as leader of the free world.

No, I'm actually glad he's gonna keep using torture.

And when you look at Obama, you see a black President. When I look at him, I see a President who just happens to be black.

And no, nobody's gonna criticize Obama. At least, not as much as they "criticized" Bush. The MSM will glorify every good thing he does, and belittle every bad thing he does.
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Feb 1 2009, 04:38 PM
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Feb 1 2009, 02:19 AM
Well, he plans to fund abortions worldwide with American tax-payer money. That should be nice. Oh and, he legalized infanticide. Oh and, he's gonna flush about a trillion dollars down the toilet by, like, 2010.

# 176 and 175 are false, though. Obama's gonna keep using torture.

Fetus =/= Infant

I meant unborn babies, not "infants". I don't know why I said "infanticide" :S

But still, 9-months-old unborn babies are %100 human.
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Feb 1 2009, 05:15 PM
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Feb 1 2009, 04:38 PM
DragonLegend
Feb 1 2009, 02:19 AM
Well, he plans to fund abortions worldwide with American tax-payer money. That should be nice. Oh and, he legalized infanticide. Oh and, he's gonna flush about a trillion dollars down the toilet by, like, 2010.

# 176 and 175 are false, though. Obama's gonna keep using torture.

Fetus =/= Infant

I meant unborn babies, not "infants". I don't know why I said "infanticide" :S

But still, 9-months-old unborn babies are %100 human.

Well yes, because when a fetus is nine months old, it is human. That's because that is when it is born. Abortion occurs within twelve weeks of conception, at a point when the fetus has no brain, nervous system, or developed organs. It cannot feel, it is not aware of itself, it is nothing but a mass of cells, no different than what you find inside of an egg when you go to make an omelet. It doesn't care whether it lives or dies, it's not even aware it's alive. There's nothing wrong with it, it's no different than destroying an unwanted weed in your garden.
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I know. That's why I'm ok with abortion as long as it's in the first two weeks.

But Obama made it legal to have an abortion at any time. That means, if the baby was, say, 8 months old, and you wanted an abortion, it would be legal to get one!

Can you believe this crap? It breaks my heart.
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Well, there's only one response to that...WHAT HAS SCIENCE DONE?

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21st century science = Spending millions of dollars inventing uselss things that make people even lazier than they already are.
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Not all of them are useless. They just don't all have a use yet. Potential is the key word, potential.
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Feb 2 2009, 02:03 AM
I know. That's why I'm ok with abortion as long as it's in the first two weeks.

But Obama made it legal to have an abortion at any time. That means, if the baby was, say, 8 months old, and you wanted an abortion, it would be legal to get one!

Can you believe this crap? It breaks my heart.

How does he wants to do that? You can't have abortion after 2 months (I think) anymore.
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Yeah you can. Google Freedom of Choice Act.

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The Freedom of Choice Act (H.R. 1964/S. 1173) was a bill in the 110th United States Congress which "declares that it is the policy of the United States that every woman has the fundamental right to choose to bear a child; terminate a pregnancy prior to fetal viability; or terminate a pregnancy after viability when necessary to protect her life or her health."

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Yea, when necessary to protect her vital health. She can't just have it done whenever. If it were killing her (as in cases in underage pregnancies) then it could be terminated after it were viable.
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