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Centuries Of Dominance
Topic Started: Feb 2 2009, 04:12 AM (846 Views)
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21st Century might be the European century or the century of China, India and Brasil^^




@Lazaruth: The Portuguese were the first European colonial powers so they should always be iin front of the Spanish. But the Spanish/Portuguese power weaked from 1568 to 1648(Dutch, British and French were rising now, like building a stockexhance, the Dutch are considered as the first true capitalists).
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Feb 3 2009, 05:49 AM
17th - Spanish/Portugal/France (King Louis XVI, anyone?)/The Ottomans I can't say Dutch for I don't know how much they owned, but they probably were quite powerful.

The Dutch were ridiculously powerful considering the size of their home country. They ran on principles that dominating trade was more important than dominating everyone militarily. Not that their military sucked, because their navy was very talented and their dragoons (the famous Ruyters) were among the best in the world. But in any case, the 17th Cenutry was their golden age.

Had the British not followed them everywhere they went, they probably would've been more poweful later on in history.
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Redemption don't believe AOE in everything. There is no such famous Ruyter because Ruyter is just Dutch for horseman. I think you mean marine corps, but okay the horsemen were also well trained.
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Feb 4 2009, 11:20 AM
Redemption don't believe AOE in everything. There is no such famous Ruyter because Ruyter is just Dutch for horseman. I think you mean marine corps, but okay the horsemen were also well trained.

Sorry if I confused ya there, but I just called them that in parentheses to draw the comparison. But before I ever played that, I read multiple times that their cavalry--particularly their ranged cavalry--was good, and they favored using lighter, more mobile warfare in contrast to heavier formations used by some of their counterparts.
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Feb 3 2009, 04:18 PM
@Lazaruth

Please, just call me Laz ;)
And Ok, I now know that :D
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@Lazaruth

Please, just call me Laz ;)
And Ok, I now know that :D

Oh sorry :lol:

Laz is better ;))

@Redemption: Ah okay in that way, yes that's true ^_^
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Some of the lands of the British Empire were unsettled parts of Canada and Australia. So they didn't really have the largest empire.
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Some of the lands of the British Empire were unsettled parts of Canada and Australia. So they didn't really have the largest empire.

But then basically all of the others are invalid too. Look at the Mongols, most of their land was so sparsely populated that conquering it was almost literally a matter of just visitiing.
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Some of the lands of the British Empire were unsettled parts of Canada and Australia. So they didn't really have the largest empire.

And India :rolleyes:
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Some of the lands of the British Empire were unsettled parts of Canada and Australia. So they didn't really have the largest empire.

And India :rolleyes:

That too.
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Some of the lands of the British Empire were unsettled parts of Canada and Australia. So they didn't really have the largest empire.

And India :rolleyes:

That too.

And Africa ofcourse. There was not an Englishman to check the natives in every village.


But there was no need to. Dutch and English used Indirect Rule while the Spanish, Portuguese, French and Germans used Direct Rule. The Dutch and English gave the old tribe leaders the everyday power, so they controlled it for like 20% of the money made in the village(the rest was for the colonisator). The P,F, S and D killed the native powers and put a European at those spots what was very expensive and most natives didn't want to listen...
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