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HISTORY IN THE MAKING 2008-2016

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We've spent a good many years discussing politics, life, society and history. Most of all, the makers of history. The great events that changed the world - people, places, actions. Small acts have changed its hard-worn course, and effort and circumstance can make of its small actors immortal greats. In line with that sentiment, it seems pertinent now to recognize the potential of those who've made up this community for years, obvious through their contributions to the spirited debate and discussion that has proceeded here. HITM has sadly gone silent, though perhaps not lacking for things to say about making history, but rather for the realization that it is time we all commenced to do so, and make our mark.

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Topic Started: Feb 18 2010, 04:39 PM (398 Views)
DragonLegend
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... when you discuss politics with teenage gamers who don't know a damn thing.

http://www.heavengames.com/cgi-bin/forums/...&fn=2&f=2,,0,10
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Well what's your username and which thread? I'm sure that'd help us out.
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DragonLegend
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Click pretty much any thread. You'll find many posts about Bush and how he didn't try to stop 9/11, how tea partiers are racist, and all kinds of stupidity.
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OwenRoe
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posted 02-18-10 03:09 PM EDT (US)    36 / 37               
Tell me, Big Snake, where were the Tea Partiers, who are apparently so enamored of the constitution, when George Bush was President? How come they didn't demonstrate when Bush passed the corporate boondoggle that was the medicare prescription drug plan? Or suspended Habeus corpus and made a mockery of such constitutional issues like illegal search and seizure and cruel and unusual punishment? Or transformed a SURPLUS into the nightmare deficits that the new administration has to deal with?

I find it hard to believe that the Tea Partiers are concerned solely with the issue of big government, since their complaints only appear to arisen when a Democrat is in office.

As for racism, I seriously doubt the Obama administration is happy about Olberman et al complaining about it. It's in their political interest not to introduce any conversation about race at all.


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posted 02-18-10 03:52 PM EDT (US)    37 / 37               
I have to stand with OwenRoe on this, Big Snake. If the best defense Obama puts up to criticism either personally or through surrogates is comprised of nothing but "racism" charges, then IMHO, Obama deserves to be a one-term president. Even if it's true that some of his critics are racists, and I don't doubt for an instant that some of them are indeed racists, to be President of this country demands something in the way of less shallow posturing by the President and his mouthpieces.

Personally, I don't think Obama is so stupid as to think he can play the "racist" card and make it into a second term, except by the skin of this teeth. If marginally narrow is his future victory, he not only would be a lame duck President in his second term, but more than likely a dying duck. No, I don't think Obama is playing the "racist" card either personally or through his surrogates. If it's being played, it is by his surrogates' unsanctioned initiative only, which may reflect more negatively on their level of intelligence than his.

I should also point out, speaking to you as a moderator, that I've observed you like to pose "pregnant questions" in your posts that are filled with innuendo and no supportive substance. If you wish to make a statement such as you have implied is your statement in your recent questions, say it directly with corroborating evidence instead of using the pregnant question ploy. Otherwise, if this continues, I will advise forumers to disregard your posts. If it continues further, I will have to assess whether the contribution you are making is in the spirit of true discussion or more an act of trolling. This is not a warning. It is an observation at this time as you appear to be new to The Library. Please read the Forum Guide at your earliest opportunity.


You can't fix stupid.
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DragonLegend
Feb 18 2010, 12:29 PM
Click pretty much any thread. You'll find many posts about Bush and how he didn't try to stop 9/11, how tea partiers are racist, and all kinds of stupidity.

Bush didn't do anything to stop 9/11 even after the intelligence agencies told him about it.

http://www.nytimes.com/2002/05/16/us/bush-...ml?pagewanted=1



The Tea Parties are not necessarily racist, but they're mostly made up of bitter ignorant simpletons who are angry that history is moving on without them.

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Neitzluber
Feb 18 2010, 06:00 PM
DragonLegend
Feb 18 2010, 12:29 PM
Click pretty much any thread. You'll find many posts about Bush and how he didn't try to stop 9/11, how tea partiers are racist, and all kinds of stupidity.

Bush didn't do anything to stop 9/11 even after the intelligence agencies told him about it.

http://www.nytimes.com/2002/05/16/us/bush-...ml?pagewanted=1



The Tea Parties are not necessarily racist, but they're mostly made up of bitter ignorant simpletons who are angry that history is moving on without them.

Ummm, you do realize the USA gets thousands of terrorists threats daily? That means he can't stop corporate business' from operating just because someone said they where gonna bomb the building. It was only till AFTER 9/11 that we started being more strict about terrorist threats.
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Ivan, yet another debunked meme.

The intelligence memo has been declassified already, and it didn't say anything about any imminent danger. It said al-Qaeda wanted to attack the US (nothing new there), and that there were some small, suspicious plots that the FBI was already working on. What did you expect Bush to do? The only way he could've stopped the attacks is if he had the PATRIOT Act, which the Left wants him hanged for. It's a Catch-22 situation. Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't.
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What the hell have I to do with this?
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Feb 18 2010, 11:14 PM
The only way he could\'ve stopped the attacks is if he had the PATRIOT Act, which the Left wants him hanged for.

Not just the lefts, rightists too.
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Feb 19 2010, 12:15 AM
What the hell have I to do with this?

Sorry, I meant Neitz. :wacko:
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^^ Haha, I was confused too.
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