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| Parasky | Mar 5 2010, 02:32 AM Post #46 |
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There is no war in Crimea
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I had an English teacher once whose spelling the class had to regularly correct. I also had a US history teacher who didn't know that we weren't a nation until 1783. I get how somebody might think that we became a nation in 1776, what with the Declaration of Independence, but how could you ever become a US history teacher and not know that nobody recognized us as a nation until 1783? |
| "The wages of sin is death but so is the salary of virtue, and at least the evil get to go home early on Fridays." - Terry Pratchett, Small Gods | |
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| Lazurath | Mar 5 2010, 06:11 AM Post #47 |
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From a Land Down Under
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I have a Maths teacher who we frequently have to correct, and the stuff isn't even that hard in the first place. |
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| Neitzluber | Mar 5 2010, 06:50 AM Post #48 |
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Those come in handy. They should be electives. |
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| Neitzluber | Mar 5 2010, 06:53 AM Post #49 |
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The great advancements in the human condition have always come from mathematics and science. While art is nice to look at and keeps us entertained, it needs not be taught at schools. It arises naturally. A math nerd might just as well make great music as a hobby. The difference is that mathematics help us solve real problems and reach at real advances, while music is merely a sideshow to make life easy for those who already have it easy. Taxpayer dollars are scarce, so let them be wisely invested in something that'll pay back, rather than gambled in such trivial things as arts and sports. |
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| _Иван_ | Mar 5 2010, 10:04 AM Post #50 |
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Level 6 bydlo
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I see your point, Neitz, but I would prefer to live in a more diverse society with more opportunities for everyone. |
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| Parasky | Mar 5 2010, 04:16 PM Post #51 |
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Go look up "Alhambra" and tell me that you can't fuse math and art. |
| "The wages of sin is death but so is the salary of virtue, and at least the evil get to go home early on Fridays." - Terry Pratchett, Small Gods | |
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| MaxJ | Mar 5 2010, 05:33 PM Post #52 |
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HITM op dokters advies
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Haha I used to have a math teacher like that too, but the guy was quite old so But for the rest are all teachers here quite good, they all have a university degree and a few years of teacher school
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Geschiedenis-Histoire-Geskiedenis-History-Geschichte-Historia
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| UnknownCow | Mar 5 2010, 10:21 PM Post #53 |
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Existentialist Ninja
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So your proposition is to allow the government to decide what courses will be made avaiable based off their value to sociey? Sounds disgustingly of Well's The Men in the Moon. Frankly this is the kind of big government that I have and always will protest. I very rarely talk about politics, and perhaps even less on this board. It isn't my niche; I don't find it as interesting as other endevors. Nevertheless to propose a government that makes value judgements, something ironicaly philosophical, to deem only the hard sciences as appropriate for government funding, excluding the teaching of history, sociology, and literature which all have lead to the society we live in today so that we can even be talking about how we should be teaching the masses, is laughable. |
| "Because a girl should have long hair, she should have clean hair; because she should have clean hair, she should not have an unclean home; because she should not have an unclean home, she should have a free and leisured mother; because she should have a free mother, she should not have an usurious landlord; because there should not be a usurious landlord, there should be a redistribution of property; because there should be a redistribution of property, there shall be a revolution." -G. K. Chesterton | |
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| Nghtflame7 | Mar 10 2010, 07:54 PM Post #54 |
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I still slightly disagree with you on this one. I agree about the military of course, but I subscribe to Milton Friedman's Free to Choose model. There are certain public works which cannot lend themselves to profitabiltiy in the private sector while providing for the public good. The military is one. Highways is another. I like the national park service and think that is pretty well run. Were the property to be in private hands, I fear we would lose nature as the terrain is sold off for private gain. I'm sure there are others, but I have to take my dog to the vet, so it will have to wait for another time. More tomorrow. |
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| DragonLegend | Mar 11 2010, 07:35 AM Post #55 |
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Those are the basics, the necessities. Aren't they specifically mentioned in the Constitution? I don't think the post office, social security and health care are mentioned in the Constitution as rights. |
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| Nghtflame7 | Mar 11 2010, 07:43 PM Post #56 |
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Nope, I agree with you on all three of those. I kind of like the postal service, though because it is so much cheaper than Fedex and UPS, but still does a pretty efficient job of getting mail where it is supposed to go, quickly. They are a drain on taxpayers, of course, because they don't charge enough to support themselves. I guess we'd break even with lower taxes but higher rates if the post office privatized. Based on Friedman's principles, we'd probably be better off, because it is the nature of private firms to run more cost effectively. Government agencies have large overhead such that a greater percentage of each dollar they receive goes to overhead than if they were private. The other legitimate functions of government are public safety (police and fire), the judiciary, any public service which can not be profitably provided by a private organization (highways and such fall here), and very limited care for the indigent. Here Friedman was talking about a societal responsibility to care for people who could not reasonably care for themselves and who had no family to care for them: orphans, abandoned children, the mentally challenged without family capable of caring for them, and probably others on a limited case by case basis. As for the constitution, I think only the military and the judiciary are specifically mentioned. Oh, Friedman also mentions a minimal amount of education should be publicly available. The societal profit from a certain level of education outweighs the cost in public dollars. He considered use of tax dollars for a certain amount of education for all people, regardless of background to be of such potential benefit to society that he thought it worth the cost. Edited by Nghtflame7, Mar 11 2010, 07:46 PM.
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| Ww2nerd | Mar 12 2010, 12:37 AM Post #57 |
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Scion of the Midnight Sun
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Interesting HC has to be defined as a right in your constitution. Here it just is. There might be some preamble in the Canada Health Act for it too, I don't know. |
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