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| Surprising statement from an ex US general | |
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| MaxJ | Mar 19 2010, 05:10 PM Post #1 |
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How can a guy like this become a general?
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| Nghtflame7 | Mar 22 2010, 02:59 PM Post #2 |
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Max, First, he is a retired General. Second, he is OLD! I know JJ Sheehan. He is a retired Marine General, and he was a VERY good military thinker. Being a good General, though, doesn't mean that he isn't a backwards out of touch iconoclastic civilian. Pause...writing to Max and using the word iconoclastic...let me define the term. Iconoclast is one who attacks settled beliefs, in this case the settled belief of the Dutch that homosexuals in the military are perfectly fine. In other words, he got to be a Generalbecause he was a superior thinker and leader in a time when most military folks thought exactly the way he does. Times change, the character of the US military has changed, yet JJ is speaking with a mindset that is several decades old. I personally couldn't care less if people in the military are gay so long as they do their job well and have my back when the bullets fly. I suspect the majority of US military people believe the same. Except many of the old guys. I don't know why, but the USMC leadership seems to be far more strongly opposed to gays inthe military than the other branches of the service. Must be a cultural mindset. |
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| DragonLegend | Mar 22 2010, 03:31 PM Post #3 |
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Or maybe they don't want to know the people they shower and sleep with are attracted to them, which is one of the main reasons military men and women don't sleep and shower with each other. ![]() After all, it's not "Don't Tell", it's "Don't Ask, Don't Tell." Edited by DragonLegend, Mar 22 2010, 03:39 PM.
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| Nghtflame7 | Mar 22 2010, 03:40 PM Post #4 |
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You are right. That would be a bit odd. I have had gay friends outside the military, but it would be a bit strange to be in a shower with them like at the gym, even though I know they aren't attracted to me, nor would I be to them. Sleeping arrangements are less of an issue. In the field, men and women of all ranks would just crash wherever they could. Never any issue there. Permanent quarters would be a different story. Share a room with a guy who brought homw other guys? Ewww. Of course, someone who was bringing home members of the opposite sex could make things uncomfortable, too. I guess I could share a barracks with a gay man, but there would have to be some ground rules between us, just out of mutual respect. |
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| DragonLegend | Mar 22 2010, 03:53 PM Post #5 |
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This seems to be the main reason opponents of repealing DADT oppose it, but if the military is okay with it, I'm okay with it. Mullen and the others of course support their President on this, but the troops don't, and 10 percent say they’ll refuse to re-enlist if it’s withdrawn. The commandant of the Marine Corps opposes ending DADT, too. Edited by DragonLegend, Mar 22 2010, 04:01 PM.
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| MaxJ | Mar 22 2010, 04:26 PM Post #6 |
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But if you are a general you also need to have some good sense. I don't think saying something like this means you have a good sense. But like you said, he is old, I guess that explains a lot
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| Nghtflame7 | Mar 22 2010, 04:32 PM Post #7 |
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Right. And he is NOT a General anymore. He is a private citizen. I would think he would have been more circumspect in his comments were he still on duty. |
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| MaxJ | Mar 22 2010, 04:38 PM Post #8 |
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Yeah I know, look at the title, it says ex general
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