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| Terrorists strike Russian rail system, kill 37; More to come? | |
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| DragonLegend | Mar 29 2010, 04:31 PM Post #1 |
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| Ww2nerd | Mar 29 2010, 04:52 PM Post #2 |
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I saw a documentary on that. At one point, they also took control of a school, and some black widows detonated in the middle of the children
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"There are strange things done in the midnight sun, by the men who moil for gold; the arctic trails have their secret tales that'd make your blood run cold... the Northern Lights have seen queer sights, but the queerest they ever did see... was that night on the marge of Lake LeBarge, that I cremated Sam McGee." - Robert W. Service | |
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| MaxJ | Mar 29 2010, 05:01 PM Post #3 |
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Sad what happened ![]() They always have to take the metro or other forms of public transport ![]() @WW2nerd: I think that doc was about the school hostage in Beslan? |
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| Lazurath | Mar 30 2010, 01:53 AM Post #4 |
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Ahh yes. I heard about this and was thinking of making a thread on it. But, even though it is a tragic loss of human life and should've been avoided at all if possible, this is not the first time that something like this has happened in trouble-plagued Russia (in fact, it was only in November that a bomb detonated on a train heading to St. Petersburg from Moscow.) So, whilst it is news, it's nothing really unexpected, as terrible as that sounds. I think this is just the violent reminder of the current on many problems that Russia faces. |
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| Ww2nerd | Mar 30 2010, 02:56 AM Post #5 |
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@Max: Sounds about right. |
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"There are strange things done in the midnight sun, by the men who moil for gold; the arctic trails have their secret tales that'd make your blood run cold... the Northern Lights have seen queer sights, but the queerest they ever did see... was that night on the marge of Lake LeBarge, that I cremated Sam McGee." - Robert W. Service | |
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| Nghtflame7 | Mar 30 2010, 05:12 PM Post #6 |
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Yes, it was the Chechens that took over the school in Beslan. I'd be interested to hear what Oddball and our other current and former Russian members think of the Chechen situation. I imagine we all hate the idea of terrorism, of course. I mean politically. Should they be allowed to form their own nation? Is that even a rational idea? From what I have read recently, the Muslim Chechens don't want just a homeland anymore; they want to form an Emirate of the Caucasus, and take over the whole region. Anyway, any insights from those of you who would know more than us uninformed Westerners? |
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| DragonLegend | Mar 30 2010, 05:14 PM Post #7 |
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Have you noticed that most terrorist attacks these days are committed by Muslims? Terrorism really is one area that could use more religious diversity. |
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| Ww2nerd | Mar 30 2010, 06:04 PM Post #8 |
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You know, ignoring lord's resistance Army, which has been committing regular atrocities in the name of Christianity for oh, 20 years? Just to name one. They simply aren't reported. Because the Muslim must be vilified at all costs! Down with the evil of Islam! Crusade and slaughter them all, leave none of those evil people alive! Abducting, killing and raping over 20,000 children, but that's not bad, because they're just Christians. You know, that's a typical thing to do. Or those 1324 innocent people killed by those wonderful Christians just last year. If only I could be a wonderful Christian, not one of those evil Muslims. ___________________ The figures are correct. The rest is sarcasm. Jesus, expand your world-view. Edited by Ww2nerd, Mar 30 2010, 06:11 PM.
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"There are strange things done in the midnight sun, by the men who moil for gold; the arctic trails have their secret tales that'd make your blood run cold... the Northern Lights have seen queer sights, but the queerest they ever did see... was that night on the marge of Lake LeBarge, that I cremated Sam McGee." - Robert W. Service | |
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| DragonLegend | Mar 30 2010, 06:14 PM Post #9 |
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How many terrorist attacks were committed by Christians for religious reasons in 2009? How many by Muslims? |
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| Ww2nerd | Mar 30 2010, 06:38 PM Post #10 |
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In the event we don't count offensives against soldiers, the Christians have far more, from the LRA alone. They do something almost daily, on a small scale, and like that article I posted shows, they do a lot of big stuff too. Look, that's just from what I've heard reported. Edited by Ww2nerd, Mar 30 2010, 06:38 PM.
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"There are strange things done in the midnight sun, by the men who moil for gold; the arctic trails have their secret tales that'd make your blood run cold... the Northern Lights have seen queer sights, but the queerest they ever did see... was that night on the marge of Lake LeBarge, that I cremated Sam McGee." - Robert W. Service | |
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| DragonLegend | Mar 30 2010, 06:40 PM Post #11 |
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So, no official statistics or counts? And Muslim terrorists rarely attack soldiers. The overwhelming majority of terrorist attacks are aimed at civilians. |
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| Ww2nerd | Mar 30 2010, 06:43 PM Post #12 |
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Exactly. The LRA attacks primarily civilians too. That seems to be a standing pattern among terrorists. I was simply ruling that out, as I figured you'd try and count those too. Tell you what, make my life a little easier. You find an exact count for the Muslims, and I'll see what I can do about the Christians. In the media, I've heard of twelve to twenty attacks in 09, at best, for the Muslims. The LRA launches one almost every other day. At any rate, my friend is waiting for me to join him, so I'll deal with this later. Edited by Ww2nerd, Mar 30 2010, 06:45 PM.
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"There are strange things done in the midnight sun, by the men who moil for gold; the arctic trails have their secret tales that'd make your blood run cold... the Northern Lights have seen queer sights, but the queerest they ever did see... was that night on the marge of Lake LeBarge, that I cremated Sam McGee." - Robert W. Service | |
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| DragonLegend | Mar 30 2010, 07:00 PM Post #13 |
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This is the latest count, from 2008: 2008 Worldwide Deaths from Terrorist Attacks, by Perpetrator Category ![]() Source: National Counterterrorism Center, 2008 Report on Terrorism. As you can see, a majority (8,284) of deaths were the result of Islamic terrorist attacks, while only 932 deaths were the result of Christian attacks. Edited by DragonLegend, Mar 30 2010, 07:37 PM.
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| Nghtflame7 | Mar 30 2010, 07:33 PM Post #14 |
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The LRA is hardly a Christian organization. They don't even come close to traditional Christian theology. They are a combination of African pantheism, with some Christianity and other wierd stuff thrown in. Saying the LRA is Christian is like saying Santa Ria is Christian because they have elements of Catholicism in their ritual. That said, they certainly aren't Muslim. I'm not sure I would characterize them as strictly terrorists, though. I'll have to look deeper into the Uganda situation and post more when I get back next week. |
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| Parasky | Mar 30 2010, 07:42 PM Post #15 |
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There is no war in Crimea
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This is one case where I feel a little bad for the terrorists. I mean, the official position of the Russian government is literally "we will hunt them down and destroy them." Yes, they said destroy; not capture, not defeat, but destroy. And if Russia wants to destroy something, they'll do it. |
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