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Russian education change
Topic Started: Apr 9 2010, 12:52 AM (258 Views)
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From january 2011 there probably will be only 3 free subjects in russian schools: basic maths, russian language and The Basics of Orthodox Culture (Religious shit). And parents will have to pay for others, if they can and want to, of course.

Here is the Russian article, although I do realize that no one but me and Odball can read it.

http://lex-kravetski.livejournal.com/287575.html
Edited by _Иван_, Apr 9 2010, 04:31 AM.
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Unusual. What could the motives of this be?
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Dunno, crisis? fear of communism/socialism? plain political stupidness? less taxes?
I can't believe that from free education, healthcare, etc... Russia seems to become each day more and more capitalist and religious :/
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It's ironic, and sad, that America is leaning more and more to the Left while some of the world's most leftist nations are leaning to the Right.
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Haha, well said, Dragon. I think all of this happens because people just view the negative aspects of their political system, and, thus, get (fakely) illusioned by another one or another political figure that they tend to view to be better, more fair, etc... Although they, ironically, also ignore the negative aspects of this same political system, which has been applied in the past.
The day a person learns to be happy with what it has instead of always complaining about he doesn't have, he will reach true and unique happiness ans satisfaction. However, by simple animal instinct, our brains don't work by that way. Although, also, this instinct also forces us to research, to try, and, thus, to be smarter day by day. It's one of the main parts of the motor that make the human brain.
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Apr 9 2010, 05:36 AM
Haha, well said, Dragon. I think all of this happens because people just view the negative aspects of their political system, and, thus, get (fakely) illusioned by another one or another political figure that they tend to view to be better, more fair, etc... Although they, ironically, also ignore the negative aspects of this same political system, which has been applied in the past.
The day a person learns to be happy with what we have instead of always complaining about he doesn't have, he will reach true happiness. However, by simple animal instinct, our brains don't work by that way.
100% correct. ;))

Although what you said is a refutation of idealism/Marxism/modern liberalism.
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Well, it could also be used as a refutation for capitalism from the point of view, of, let's say, someone from East Germany. Also, I said it in some kind of atheist/nihilist perspective.
But, yes, what you said is also true. I don't really like the college/teenage-communists/liberals who wish to fight against capitalism, not realizing none of the crimes commited in the name of communism nor it's negative aspect, and just see communism as the perfect answer for today's society problems.
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Well of course American is leaning more to the Left. That usually tends to happen when you have a Democrat in office. Just as America leans more to the right when you have a Republican in office. The swing is negligible, however. Americans often think that there political system is far more polarised than what it really is. It's hardly like the Democrats are Che's guerrilla's as the Republicans are to Ortuņo.


Also, I would like to ask you a question: Is it (or has it ever been) possible for any political system on the right, or any organisation by rightists, to do anything significantly wrong? Like, has there ever been any flaws with rightists throughout history?
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Also, I would like to ask you a question: Is it (or has it ever been) possible for any political system on the right, or any organisation by rightists, to do anything significantly wrong? Like, has there ever been any flaws with rightists throughout history?


You mean like Ron Paul and Lew Rockwell?
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Apr 9 2010, 07:02 AM

Also, I would like to ask you a question: Is it (or has it ever been) possible for any political system on the right, or any organisation by rightists, to do anything significantly wrong? Like, has there ever been any flaws with rightists throughout history?
Of course. Any form of extremism, whether it be leftist or rightist, is going to do things that are wrong. Here in the US, the things that the Bush administration did wrong (some of the civil liberties curtailment, which I think violates our constitution) are quite similar to what the democrats are doing wrong now. The problem isn't with the political parties, per se, the problem is with the politicians who are in office. When Republicans were in power, they stepped all over the democrats, and disrespected them, simply because they could. Now that the shoe is on the other foot, the democrats are doing exactly what they complained about the republicans doin in the past. Based on my political views, I am happier when the republicans are in power, but I can still be objective enough to recognize when they are doing wrong things.

Once upon a time, the US had politicians that were motivated by their ideals, but who could achieve bi-partisan compromise for the good of their country as a whole. I honestly don't think we have very many politicians left who are willing to behave like statesmen.

I was going to put in a funny answer, though. In the past, the Republican party was considered the progressives (really more centrist), and the democrats were the right wing crazies. So when the democrats were on the right, they were wrong. :P
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This was before the 60s, right? If I am not mistaken, the Democrats actually found most of their powerbase among the conservative South, much like today's Republicans?
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Apr 9 2010, 02:07 PM
This was before the 60s, right? If I am not mistaken, the Democrats actually found most of their powerbase among the conservative South, much like today's Republicans?
Yes, you are correct. I was actually thinking back to the 1800s and even Lincoln, with his anti-slavery values.
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