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UtaForum VCV Study (20/11/10, History of VCVs); The magical place where you realise VCV isn't hard at all
Topic Started: Nov 19 2010, 10:18 PM (3,735 Views)
nils8950
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why are the cv files called: - く
or - さ?
i don't like this......
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Because there's a gap in front of them, usually. They're not CV files, they're "-blank space- -CV-". ^^;;;;
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nils8950
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ah...okey.
well that helps me to make a cv append without any problems with the names.
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Nov 20 2010, 09:04 PM
Lite vs. Standalone

I’m not going to lie, I’m actually really biased towards this subject.

I want everyone to create Standalone VCV Banks. Now now, don’t turn around and say that the recordings are easier to say in Lite banks, there’s LOKEs and Taya’s lists out there, too (which are 6-mora and 5-mora respectively, I believe), and they are both Standalone.

However, Lite lists are perfectly capable of sounding good, as much as I hate to admit it.
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The pros of using Standalone are that they are generally much smoother, as they have enough recordings to cover a whole UST, rather than just some. They are also a LOT more user friendly, unless you recorded oddly.
There’s also a lot of choice when it comes to Reclists.

The cons are that the lists are longer than any Lite lists, but that’s actually about it.


…I need someone to help me on this one, actually. Since I just automatically go “STANDALONE”.
Hmm, I may seem irrelevant or...er, of another adjective..but I can't help but say I enjoy the type of strings the most common Lite List is like. Maybe it's because the only standalone reclist I've ever gotten close to was the Ritsu style where it's all "kakekikoku" /of the same prefix, but I'd really like to note that. It just feels so unnatural. I mean, in a song, the notes are most of the time using different prefixes...it just makes more sense to me to use a list more like "atekisoru" [random] vs "kakekiku."
[And it's insanely annoying for the "cyv's" like "ryaryeriryoryu." ]No,no, I'm not ignoring your note on Taya's and Loke's list. |D

So I guess, in a sense..maybe lite lists are "better" for Romaji only users, because they/we? have no/little access to a suitable standalone list.

Or, I'm just being bias against Ritsu's type of list. |D

Of course, I haven't checked as many Romaji VCV banks as I'd like, and I should give it a shot again despite how hard and tedious it is. And maybe I haven't looked hard enough for translated lists-- D'8

Also, what I find with Lite Lists, regardless of how "if want to do the job, you should do it completely", people just choose it over laziness, unfortunately. "A quick way to apparently automatically make a VB sound a lot better." 8I;; This logic, as senseless as is...it's what occurs in some people's minds. So maybe...a pro is that is it's "quicker." OH WAIT--. D8 You half-ish kinda covered that with the whole "standalone has a longer list." = v =`

Oh! Ahm, VB sizes. Perhaps the aspect that people don't want to use up so much bandwidth/space? Of course, you'd expect otherwise for the fact that they choose to download it, but yeah. Yeah. Just throwing ideas out.

Lastlyyyy. I find that Lite Lists help with users that are using it only for experimenting/practicing. They don't want to go bother with making a full out standalone for a bank they're just testing with and may be scrapping, right? Maybe they want to just use it to practice recording strings, and otoing-..? o w o`)/ Guilty.

Sorry for the long read, ORZ. I guess me trying to be helpful writes a lot more than neccessary. = o =`
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lol...
Even if it might be more natural to pronounce mixed strings, they are far harder to pronunce, than the ones with only one consonant.
"To never look back."



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nils8950
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lite is doing that.



...and i recorded lite today. i would really recommend it for people who are new to VCV, because it's just faster, but still sounds good.(actually, it sounds a LOT better than my attempts at standalone XP)
and if you decide to complete it ages later, you can still use teto's VCV reclist, which is standalone, but has the lite reclist in it.
(this works best if you just use OREMO. it shows you what you already recorded.)

EDIT:

For anyone who wants that reclist. It is just the basic OREMO reclist, but with all standalone elements.


you will still need CV, for all the "- [hiragana]" files.
Edited by nils8950, Nov 23 2011, 01:30 PM.
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