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Any advice on making USTs?
Topic Started: Nov 12 2011, 07:51 PM (487 Views)
sienicht
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I'm pretty good at pinpointing notes...but I have trouble with note length and rest length. I practice a lot, but it's really hard for me to pinpoint how long a note should be.
I only use UTAU to make my USTs, not FL Studio. Does anyone have any sort of advice on pinpointing the length of notes and rests? ; n ;
I'd really love to make my own USTs...
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Aleksandr
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I am bad at pinpointing notes but great and finding rests and lengths, lol.

I just render, open in audacity, play, find the wrong notes, move slightly, rinse and repeat.

It takes a while but it works for me.
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I use audacity and select the length of the note/rest and see what the length of the selected area is and then change the length of the note/rest in UTAU.
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I'm probably better at finding notes than note lengths, but what I do is I subdivide the beat when I'm listening to the song and trying to make a UST from it; I tap out the eighth notes while I'm listening. If I'm particularly unsure of a note I'll make my best guess and replay the song and tap my hand once at the beat where I thought the note ended, and if it ended before or after then I know I need to change the length. Then of course I go and listen to it alongside the original song once I'm done with the whole UST or just a certain section, to see if it matches. Uh, I'm bad at explaining...
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sienicht
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@aleksandr
i do that a lot too, but it takes forever...; n ;

@xraix
that actually sounds like a good idea...xD

@shinykins;
that sounds like a good idea too! ; u ;

thank you all! ; u ;


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You're getting the tempo, right? Once you have the correct tempo and put it into the UST, and then realize that the program actually measures stuff in measures (ha - by that I mean the pink lines seperate quater notes and the gray line is a bar line (these colors in the default color setup) - for me, once I realized that I went "THIS IS SO EASY NOW ; o ;"), and THEN realize that most songs are very rhythmic and repeat patterns and stick to note length (Generally like half the distance between two pinks, a full distance, one fourth, etc), it's really easy.

If I make no sense, just stare at UTAU and various USTs. When it clicks it should be easier.
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sienicht
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oh my gosh, it really does! \( ; u ;)/ gosh, i didn't know that.
i don't know how this makes it easier though? i mean, i know it should, but i don't know how.

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Well, notes in stuff are generally things like Quater Notes, Half Notes, Eight Notes, etc, right? They stick to a pattern in songs. Once you have the correct tempo, One Quater Note is that distance between two pink lines, Eighth is half that, Half is two...you sorta get a feel for how the rhythm of a song works after listening to it and plopping one or two notes down and figuring out what's right.

*has trouble explaining it simply DX*
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ohh!
haha, i get it now. i got the eighth note, half note thing, but i never thought that every song had that same pattern throughout the entire song. i don't think they always do (do they? i was just looking at a no-logic ust, and it wasn't quite set up in such a way), but this is a lot of help too. ; u ;
Edited by sienicht, Nov 13 2011, 06:41 PM.
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Shinami
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It's not ALWAYS the same, and then there's always trippy songs that are purposely wierd, but you can feel in a song generally when lyrics are going at the same speed/are the same length, and often each chorus is a repetition of the previous, each verse, etc - same pattern, different lyrics.
Sometimes though it's not PERFECTLY aligned with the pink lines, but in the end they retain the lengths that make it an easy to do pattern.
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