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    Kiryu question
    Topic Started: Nov 12 2005, 09:34 PM (870 Views)
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    Did toho get the idea of a cyborg of godzilla from cyber godzilla?

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    Inferno Rodan
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    My god, would you quit obsessing over CyberZilla?

    And no, Toho did not get the idea for Kiryu from CyberZilla. CyberZilla was inspired by Mechagodzilla, not the other way around.
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    Nov 12 2005, 08:39 PM
    My god, would you quit obsessing over CyberZilla?


    I am not obsessed with cybergodzilla. Its been a while since I said anything about him. :P
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    Kiryu was created before CyberZilla as well, I do believe.

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    Nov 12 2005, 10:49 PM
    Kiryu was created before CyberZilla as well, I do believe.

    I do believe what?
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    I was saying that I believe Kiryu was made before CyberZilla.

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    Nov 13 2005, 11:22 AM
    I was saying that I believe Kiryu was made before CyberZilla.

    oh. Well my question is did toho get the idea of kiryu from cyberzilla. Because they are both cyborgs from the first godzilla/gino.
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    Nov 13 2005, 12:24 PM
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    Nov 13 2005, 11:22 AM
    I was saying that I believe Kiryu was made before CyberZilla.

    oh. Well my question is did toho get the idea of kiryu from cyberzilla. Because they are both cyborgs from the first godzilla/gino.


    You may be right, Megas. Toho liked GODZILLA: THE SERIES and released the show in Japan, so they were well aware of Cyber Godzilla (not Cyber Zilla). Toho has been known to reuse ideas from outside sources before so they easily could have done it with Kiryu.

    Cyber Godzilla was definitely influenced by Mechagodzilla, but the cartoon character is the first type of Mecha G to combine both mechanical parts and Godzilla's biological material. Cyber Godzilla was created in 1998 and premiered on GODZILLA: THE SERIES in early 1999, so he was around for years before Kiryu was introduced in 2002.
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    So cyber godzilla is the gino that died?!
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    Yes.
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    Scary. Wait! Why does he have cyboborg parts? He wasn't blown up!
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    Nov 20 2005, 06:06 PM
    Scary. Wait! Why does he have cyboborg parts? He wasn't blown up!

    He was injured from being fired at by the humans, that's why he has metallic parts on him.

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    Scary. Wait! Why does he have cyboborg parts? He wasn't blown up!


    I'll explain that. And when I say Godzilla, I'm refering to G.I.N.O.

    You see, Godzilla had been killed through likes of missiles. That means that the explosions could have damaged the body parts of Godzilla. They were either amputated because of that, or because they decided to add extra cybernetic parts to make him more powerful.

    But that's just my opinion. Others may speculate...

    EDIT: Dang, EM beat me to the punch. :P
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    Nov 20 2005, 06:27 PM
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    Scary. Wait! Why does he have cyboborg parts? He wasn't blown up!


    I'll explain that. And when I say Godzilla, I'm refering to G.I.N.O.

    You see, Godzilla had been killed through likes of missiles. That means that the explosions could have damaged the body parts of Godzilla. They were either amputated because of that, or because they decided to add extra cybernetic parts to make him more powerful.

    But that's just my opinion. Others may speculate...

    EDIT: Dang, EM beat me to the punch. :P

    On the contrary, you explained it a lot better than I did. ;)

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    Nov 18 2005, 04:49 PM
    megas rocks
    Nov 13 2005, 12:24 PM
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    Nov 13 2005, 11:22 AM
    I was saying that I believe Kiryu was made before CyberZilla.

    oh. Well my question is did toho get the idea of kiryu from cyberzilla. Because they are both cyborgs from the first godzilla/gino.


    You may be right, Megas. Toho liked GODZILLA: THE SERIES and released the show in Japan, so they were well aware of Cyber Godzilla (not Cyber Zilla). Toho has been known to reuse ideas from outside sources before so they easily could have done it with Kiryu.

    I never knew that they would use there ideas over again.
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    Nov 22 2005, 10:12 PM
    I never knew that they would use there ideas over again.

    Of course Toho has used ideas for outside sources. Why couldn't they?
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    I belive that CyberGodzilla was the baby godzilla that hatched from that egg at the end of the GINO movie. It ended up fighting the japness Godzilla in Final Wars. Once defeated the sienticts found him and began to give him cyborg parts. 15 years later in New York when GINO's gradson appered he fought his father whitch was the GINO that hatched from that eggg now with cyborg parts. Oh yeah I beleive that the nick tutopolis in the GINO cartoon is the son of the nick in GINO. But that is just my opinon.
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    Dec 9 2005, 10:01 PM
    I belive that CyberGodzilla was the baby godzilla that hatched from that egg at the end of the GINO movie. It ended up fighting the japness Godzilla in Final Wars. Once defeated the sienticts found him and began to give him cyborg parts. 15 years later in New York when GINO's gradson appered he fought his father whitch was the GINO that hatched from that eggg now with cyborg parts. Oh yeah I beleive that the nick tutopolis in the GINO cartoon is the son of the nick in GINO. But that is just my opinon.

    Opinion or not, you're wrong on all counts.

    1. Cyber-Godzilla is the original GINO revived by the aliens. This was stated in the Monster Wars trilogy of Godzilla: The Series.

    2. The Zilla that appears throughout the cartoon series is the one that hatched from the egg at the end of the movie. Again, this was stated in the series.

    3. GFW has no connection with either Godzilla '98 or Godzilla: the Series.

    4. It is the same Nick Tatopolous.
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    Still I like to beleive it the wayI would like.
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    Dec 9 2005, 10:01 PM
    Still I like to beleive it the wayI would like.

    That makes no sense.... it's like watching the original STAR WARS and then saying, "I believe Luke Skywalker is a robot. Princess Leia came from earth and her real name is Judy. Ben Kenobi cut Darth Vader in two and then he took control of the Death Star and made it the most popular disco in the galaxy".

    I worked on GODZILLA: THE SERIES, and who the characters are was well explained. If you watched the show, the only way you can believe the things you do is to completely ignore what happened in the show... and if you're going to ignore the show, why bother watching it in the first place?

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    I belive that CyberGodzilla was the baby godzilla that hatched from that egg at the end of the GINO movie.


    The first episode of G:TS picks up immediately after the end of the 1998 GODZILLA. Nick finds the the one surviving baby, and that baby grows into the Godzilla who stars in the cartoon series.

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    It ended up fighting the japness Godzilla in Final Wars. Once defeated the sienticts found him and began to give him cyborg parts.


    In the episode that introduces Cyber Godzilla, it clearly stated that the Leviathan Aliens got their hands on the corpse of the first American Godzilla and turned him into a cyborg.

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    15 years later in New York when GINO's gradson appered he fought his father whitch was the GINO that hatched from that eggg now with cyborg parts.


    G:TS takes place in 1998-99, not 2013.

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    Oh yeah I beleive that the nick tutopolis in the GINO cartoon is the son of the nick in GINO. But that is just my opinon.


    That's 100% wrong. The first episode of G:TS recreates the taxi chase from the end of the movie, so you get to see the cartoon versions of Nick, Audrey, Animal, and Phillipe. The same Nick from the taxi immediately goes back to the ruins of Madison Square Garden and finds the baby Godzilla.

    The rest of the show goes from there. Several characters from the movie are also in G:TS (Nick, Audrey, Animal, Elsie, Craven, Mayor Ebert, Hicks, Phillipe) so it's obvious the series does not take place a generation after the movie.
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    I understand you would like to believe what you like, but none of that makes any sense
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    It may not make sence to you but that is how I like to beleive it.
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    Dec 11 2005, 02:12 AM
    It may not make sence to you but that is how I like to beleive it.

    To say its the truth shows how incredibly stupid you are. You may believe what you will, but what you believe is NOT the truth, but a bunch of assumptions better suited for a fanfic.
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    I am a decipticon warlord. FEEL MY WRATH FOOLS
    I am most certanly not stupid. You see I like to beleive what I like to beleive real or not. That is just the way I am okay.
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