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    Final Battle
    Vishnu V-01 4 (33.3%)
    Neo-Space Godzilla 8 (66.7%)
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    Final Battle; Vishnu V-01 vs. Neo-Space Godzilla
    Topic Started: May 22 2006, 11:39 PM (821 Views)
    Gojira2000
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    Vishnu V-01

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    Neo-SpaceGodzilla

    (BS Digital Q vs. Inferno Rodan)

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    Biochemitra
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    Vishnu certainly has some chance here. Few, if any of his weapons are plasma based and his teleportation should sevre him nicely in evaiding that Corona beam. SG may be able to conrol where his beam flies but getting it to catch Vishnu is another matter entirely and personally, I question whether he could manage it.
    NSG may have regen but now he's facing an opponent equipped with it as well and certainly a pretty good level of it too.
    If the crystaline missiles are as slow as int he film, they will be utterly useless int his fight, seeing as how they have no chance of ever reaching Vish.
    NSG DOES have a powerful tail but that's the only thing that allows him any skill in melee. If Vishnu's vibro blades chop it off(If any of you know who the guyver is, you'll understand just how powerful vibro blades are) then NSG is done for.
    All NSG really has that will be of any use to him are his corona beam and his tail. Vish's teleportation and powerful armor should protect him from the beam and his blades will make short work of that tail.
    Yes, there is that lightning but it's pretty much in more trouble than the corona beam in this match.

    The more that I think about it, the more convinced I am that Vishnu can win this one.
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    EternalMothra
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    Hmm, I don't know. I'm kind of caught in the middle, possibly leaning toward NSG. With his corona beam, regeneration, psychic powers, and other attacks, I think he has a pretty good chance here. It is open for debate though. :nod:

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    Queen Bee
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    This is a great battle. Though I think Neo Space Godzilla will put up quite a fight, do side with Vishnu. With it's many battle attributes and special abilities, I can't help but place him as my favorite.
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    Omegarex24
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    Haven't been back here in ages...anywho...

    SG has this one kinda easily IMO. His mind-reading should work on the V-01, as it is a sentient bio-mech. Thus, it makes it possible for him to predict his opponent's moves. The crystal missles are actually pretty fast. From the way Inferno uses them in fights as NSG, he slings them like rocks or balls. And they have a nastyexplosive force behind them too. Any kind of ranged weapons at the Vishunu's disposal are kinda negated by NSG shield. Melee with NSG is a bad idea, what with the energy pulses and the like. NSG's regen is better than the Vishnu's, meanign he can last longer. And the attacks like the telekinetic pulse, with it's EMP like qualities (the TP is the flying form version of NSG's shoulder lightning, according to Inferno himself), can't possibly be good for the Vishnu.

    Vishnu is going to be able to fight, but NSG one ups him in so many areas, it's a pretty sure thing in NSG's favor.
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    Biochemitra
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    Any kind of ranged weapons at the Vishunu's disposal are kinda negated by NSG shield

    If NSG is anything like the true SG he'll use tha sheild once in the entire battle then forget he even has one.

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    Melee with NSG is a bad idea, what with the energy pulses and the like

    NSG's energy pulses were never described as being any more powerful than SG's and from what I saw, SG's pulses were pretty puny. Vishnu on the other hand, is armed with lethal vibro swords. I reiterate, no blade weapon is more vicious than a vibro sword.
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    Omegarex24
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    If NSG is anything like the true SG he'll use tha sheild once in the entire battle then forget he even has one.


    NSG is a suped up version of the original. And since NSG is an RPG based monster, his fighting style is largely like how IR likes ot fight, making liberal use of his shield and doing attacks that cause a lot of pain. So yeah, the shield will be used a lot. And for the record, SG used his shield many times throughout the movie, just never against MOGUERA.

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    NSG's energy pulses were never described as being any more powerful than SG's and from what I saw, SG's pulses were pretty puny.


    NSG is, like I said, a suped up version of the original. His pulses are very potent. And vibro blades or not, NSG's Gravity Tornado (which he also makes liberal use of) and his telekiesis are going to make it nigh impossible for Vishnu to get close enough to hurt him. Remember, NSG is dangerous at both ends with that tail of his.

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    THE GODZILLA
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    One thing sways this battle completely in Neo-SG's favor, and that is Vishnu's weakness.

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    Vishnu has a limited run time before the kaiju must retreat and hibernate in order to regenerate its energy reserves.


    Limited run time is going to cripple him since Neo-SG basically has an unlimited amount of energy...
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    Biochemitra
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    NSG is, like I said, a suped up version of the original. His pulses are very potent. And vibro blades or not, NSG's Gravity Tornado (which he also makes liberal use of) and his telekiesis are going to make it nigh impossible for Vishnu to get close enough to hurt him. Remember, NSG is dangerous at both ends with that tail of his.

    And the gravity tornado is going to get around Vish's teleportation how exactly?
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    Omegarex24
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    May 24 2006, 07:04 PM
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    NSG is, like I said, a suped up version of the original. His pulses are very potent. And vibro blades or not, NSG's Gravity Tornado (which he also makes liberal use of) and his telekiesis are going to make it nigh impossible for Vishnu to get close enough to hurt him. Remember, NSG is dangerous at both ends with that tail of his.

    And the gravity tornado is going to get around Vish's teleportation how exactly?

    I'm pretty sure Vishnu, with his limited run time, can't just keep popping in and out. He'll have to sit still at some point, and NSG will nail him then.
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    Biochemitra
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    So what if NSG gets a few hits in? Vish's armor is pretty tough, he can take a few shots if he has to, go get his own in.

    It's easier for Vish's armor to repair damage from a corona beam than it is for NSG to repair damage from a vibro blade.
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    Omegarex24
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    It's easier for Vish's armor to repair damage from a corona beam than it is for NSG to repair damage from a vibro blade.


    If he can hit NSG :sarcasm:

    As I understand it, Vishnu is very slow. NSG isn't all that slow, as he likes ot hover around more than anything. Even with teleportation capabilities, NSG can read Vishnu's mind, predict his attacks, and set up an appropriate counter. Plus, like I said, that telekinetic puls eis not going to be good for Vishnu's mechanical portions.
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    Biochemitra
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    If he can hit NSG 

    As I understand it, Vishnu is very slow. NSG isn't all that slow, as he likes ot hover around more than anything. Even with teleportation capabilities, NSG can read Vishnu's mind, predict his attacks, and set up an appropriate counter. Plus, like I said, that telekinetic puls eis not going to be good for Vishnu's mechanical portions.


    SG is among the slowest creatures imaginable, even in levitation. Vishnu's ability to teleport negates his low landspeed. Spacegodzilla is one of the easiest conceivable creatures to hit. I know NSG's fighting style is very different from SG's but still, it does nothing to deter from the sheer lack of mobility that SG faces. Frankly, Destroyah moved faster than SG did in flight, and NSG's bio says nothing about him being any quicker.
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    THE GODZILLA
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    Bio...do you always have to downgrade SG? -_-

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    SG is among the slowest creatures imaginable, even in levitation.


    This is IR's version. Don't think this thing is slow as heck, FOO!©

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    Spacegodzilla is one of the easiest conceivable creatures to hit.


    Once again, you're assuming this off of the original SpaceGodzilla. This is IR's version, one much better than the original.

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    I know NSG's fighting style is very different from SG's but still, it does nothing to deter from the sheer lack of mobility that SG faces.


    See above.

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    Frankly, Destroyah moved faster than SG did in flight, and NSG's bio says nothing about him being any quicker.


    It sure as heck does in the battle with him against all those monsters.
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    Biochemitra, how many times do I have to point out my demonstration battle for NSG to you?
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    Now, NSG has this. Vishnu can teleport all he wants, NSG will know exactly where he'll be before he can get there. I very seriously doubt Vishnu could use the teleportation to dodge attacks anyway, given how it works. From what I gather, first he must open the portal, then walk through it, then exit at the destination.
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    Biochemitra
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    Bio...do you always have to downgrade SG? 

    "Spacegodzilla is the strongest monster Godzilla ever faced!"
    "Spacegodzilla would PWN Destoroyah!"
    "Spacegodzilla could definitely beat Keizer Godzilla\Ghidorah"

    These are all common things I hear around the fanbase. I find it quite disturbing, really. Having seen very little attempt to counter that, I take it upon myself to try and set the record straight.

    So yes, in a land where Spacegodzilla is worshipped as God himself, sometimes shedding light on the subject means downgrading the legend.

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    This is IR's version. Don't think this thing is slow as heck, FOO!©


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    Once again, you're assuming this off of the original SpaceGodzilla. This is IR's version, one much better than the original.


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    See above.


    Once again, NOTHING was ever said about him being any more agile than the movie version. The bio implies that this is Spacegodzilla with the changes mentioned in the powers list. If IR wanted a quicker SG then he should have said something int he bio. He might have mentioned int he description that this SG was actually able to move quickly.

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    I very seriously doubt Vishnu could use the teleportation to dodge attacks anyway, given how it works. From what I gather, first he must open the portal, then walk through it, then exit at the destination.


    Do you know who nightcrawler is? It's more of a jaunt between dimensions, not an open portal that anyone can follow him into.
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    Omegarex24
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    Once again, NOTHING was ever said about him being any more agile than the movie version. The bio implies that this is Spacegodzilla with the changes mentioned in the powers list. If IR wanted a quicker SG then he should have said something int he bio. He might have mentioned int he description that this SG was actually able to move quickly.


    Did you even read the test fight? NSG is far more agile than the original, hence the name NEO-Spacegodzilla. He can use his gravity tornado without waiting for the opposition to be immobilized first. His Corona Beam rips holes int he opponent's armor. His crystals can withstand hits from a Spiral Grenade Missile. He really is a god amonst kaiju. He makes the original look like a weakling.

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    The Ghidoran trumpets and unleashes his Fiery Pyre Road. However, Neo-Spacegodzilla knew the attack was coming before it was even made, and simply hovers out of its path.


    This gives a good idea of how well NSG's mind reading works. Vishnu can't hide a thing from him.

    The battle also shows that NSG is no stranger to close range combat, and could fairly easily deal with Vishnu at close range.

    His Corona Beam is capable of blowing a Kamacuras in half, as prooved here

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    The Corona beam connects, followed by an explosion. The smoking carcass of GFW Kamacuras falls to the ground, the entire front half of its body blown off.


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    Several crystals rise off of the ground in Neo-Spacegodzilla’s fortress and begin to pulsate with energy. Dagahra attempts to crawl away, but can’t. The crystals rain down on him one by one, but in rapid succession


    ^This shows that NSG's crystal missile attacks are anything but slow. Note the bolded term.

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    The tail stabs into the mech’s abdomen, right through the armored cover for the cannon located there, and explodes out the back of the machine.


    ^Skewers MOGUERA here. And Mogs has tough armor. The fact that his tail penetrates, not onyl through the armored covering to the plasma cannon, but also goes clean through the mech is a testament to it's power. Vishnu is not going to want to be hit by that.

    Vishnu is screwed over from all ends if he tries to attack NSG, even with his teleportation. Since NSG can predict exactly what he is going to do next, he can form the proper defenses. Vishnu is tough, I'll give him that, but NSG is much tougher.


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    EternalMothra
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    He really is a god amonst kaiju. He makes the original look like a weakling.


    I think that is some excessive logic there Omegarex.

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    This gives a good idea of how well NSG's mind reading works. Vishnu can't hide a thing from him.

    The battle also shows that NSG is no stranger to close range combat, and could fairly easily deal with Vishnu at close range.

    His Corona Beam is capable of blowing a Kamacuras in half, as prooved here


    I think we should take a gander at Vishnu's profile more closely, he has some pretty nasty attacks there that may lead the battle in his favor.

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    NSG. Sorry, but V stands little chance, NSG is the perfect fighter in this kind of brawl...until Blaradon & Scorpadon comes in during the next RPG, but that's another story.
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    I think that is some excessive logic there Omegarex.


    Hardly. I can't be sure, seeing as how the old topics are gone, but if I recall correctly, NSG has made it this far almost unapposed. I'd call that pretty god-like.

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    I think we should take a gander at Vishnu's profile more closely, he has some pretty nasty attacks there that may lead the battle in his favor.


    I did look at Vishnu's profile very closely. And I stand by my original statements. Vishu's teleportation is negated by NSG's mind-reading. Melee is gonna be very difficult to do as NSG has a wide variety of attacks that can keep V at bay. Ranged is NSG's forte, and his shield blocks V's ranged attacks. V is slow, NSG is not. NSG has far superior regeneration. Need I say more?

    I'm not saying V won't put up a fight, but NSG outclases him on many levels, which gives him a distinct advantage.


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    EternalMothra
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    You do have a point Omega. One thing though that I think NSG lacks (basing this off from the original SG) is speed.

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    May 29 2006, 03:52 PM
    You do have a point Omega. One thing though that I think NSG lacks (basing this off from the original SG) is speed.

    Well, on the ground perhaps. NSG likes to hover though, and he an do so at a decent speed. Of course, V isn't that fast on the ground either, although I says he can fly. (I forget how fast though).
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