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| Tweet Topic Started: Oct 11 2006, 12:51 AM (1,143 Views) | |
| Django | Oct 11 2006, 12:51 AM Post #1 |
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I've been thinking and I think, starting with Godzilla vs Mothra('92), the city destruction scenes were not very fun to watch anymore. It was reduced to Godzilla walking and random explosions shooting up around him. I noticed this the most in GMM and GFW. In GMM right before Godzilla faces Mothra, we see him walking and some explosions shoot up around him. The buildings being destroyed looked pretty cool, but in GFW, the buildings being destroyed just wasn't the same, like when Godzilla reaches Tokyo, same thing, random spouts of flames. I miss the way it was in the Showa series, I mean the buildings being destroyed was very convincing with great sound effects. Anyone wanna add to this? |
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| Gojira2000 | Oct 11 2006, 01:12 PM Post #2 |
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Yes, I noticed this is as well, and in fact I think the trend starter even eariler than that, with GvsKG. In the Heisei series when a building broke apart and collasped the infamous black windows never crumbled like you'd expect real glass to (as oppossed to the Showa era). I think things improved a lot actually in the Shinsei era though (but still not perfect). Their buildings seemed more real and we didn't see sparks fly out of everything signle thing. Yeah, there were a lot of random and illogically explosions and poffs of smoke in the third series, but it was preferable to seeing buildings explode with a flash of spark that ran down it and everything round about. But of course, the early Showa era had the highest quality of city destruction. |
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| Zardac the Great | Oct 11 2006, 02:14 PM Post #3 |
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G54 was the best. After that...I'm not sure. The random explosions as Godzilla's foot touches the ground make no sense, but most other effects are better (esp Goji's glowing spines and breath). I am glad that sparks stopped flying whenever Godzilla bodyslammed someone. |
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| Steve | Oct 11 2006, 03:48 PM Post #4 |
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I never really noticed, myself. I'm more interested in kaiju battles then city destruction. I guess the people making the movies must be too. I thought the city smashing in G2K was pretty well done, personally. |
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| EternalMothra | Oct 11 2006, 05:17 PM Post #5 |
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Hmm I don't know. I thought the Heisei Era destruction scenes were best IMO. |
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| rodanguirus | Oct 11 2006, 09:03 PM Post #6 |
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I don't know, I think it's been pretty good in the Millennium series. GMK's destruction scenes were very good, as were GxM's (love the aerial shot of him lumbering along). The Kiryu films simply didn't have too many destruction scenes, though I did like his assault on the military in T:SOS. Final Wars had a wide range. Ebirah and Seesar's attacks were very "random explosion" fare, and Zilla's was just dull, but Anguirus's and Rodan's were amazing and make me proud of my username! |
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| EternalMothra | Oct 11 2006, 09:17 PM Post #7 |
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I love Rodan's destruction scene, it is my fav out of GFW!
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| Legionmaster | Oct 11 2006, 10:01 PM Post #8 |
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Ditto. That scequence was phenominal, although Kamacuras's scene in Paris is pretty cool too. |
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| EternalMothra | Oct 11 2006, 10:02 PM Post #9 |
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Yeah, that's another one on my favs too!
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| Django | Oct 11 2006, 10:27 PM Post #10 |
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G84-Very very good city destruction scenes GvB-Also very good and terrifying to watch GvKG-Not as good as before, but still not that bad, one thing I loved in particular was when you actually see inside the building when Godzilla's spines break through GvM-Started getting pretty bad, just Mothra going through the streets with flames shooting up everywhere, buildings broke apart too easily I think, too. But they did a great job making the Mothra larvae seem huge GvMG-A little worse, mostly just explosions, not actual buildings falling apart GvSG-Little worse than GvMG GvD-Pretty much the same as GvSG G2000-Much better, a big improvement GvMegaguirus-Back to the easily crumbling buildings and random explosions GMK-Better than the last movie, with more realistic destruction GXMG-Pretty good, but like when Kiryu was attacking, bunch of random explosions, was cool to see him literally walk through a building though GSOS-Too many random explosions, buildings crumbled too easily, some of the destruction was pretty good though GFW-Pretty good, bunch of random explosions though Seems that the destruction scenes were brought down to just explosions and buildings that crumble almost too easily. Not downgrading the movies, just seems like the destruction scenes aren't as good as they used to be |
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| Zardac the Great | Oct 12 2006, 02:06 PM Post #11 |
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Eh, I didn't like some of G85's destruction. Pushing buildings over doesn't seem plausable. I see them crumbling, not tipping over. |
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| The Notorious GMK | Oct 12 2006, 02:43 PM Post #12 |
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I agree with Vellregon on most of everything but I will say that GFW had better quality destruction scenes. Rodan's was spectacular especially. Overall though, out of all the eras, Showa had the best city destruction. When Ghidorah's bolts flew across the city shredding buildings, it literally looked like a hurricane was tearing through them. This was a good thread to post. I think that that may be one of the reasons why the Heisei and most of the Millenium era feels like such lower quality. |
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| Django | Oct 12 2006, 06:52 PM Post #13 |
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Pushing buildings over and blasting holes through them may not seem plausible, but it looked good |
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| EternalMothra | Oct 12 2006, 08:43 PM Post #14 |
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I loved Tokyo S.O.S in that area. Blasting through the buildings. |
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| Zardac the Great | Oct 12 2006, 09:23 PM Post #15 |
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Oh, I can see blasting a hole in one. I have no problem with that. And yes, Tokyo SOS was cool in the destruction area (except for random explosions as Godzilla walked). I just don't see buildings being pushed over in one piece. That's a no-no. |
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| Django | Oct 12 2006, 10:40 PM Post #16 |
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Yeah I know what you mean, I thought it was badass though when the Super-X was trying to hide behind that one building, then Godzilla just blasts a hole in it and there it is. After Biollante, the whole thing with buildings just falling to pieces didn't look that great |
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| dph | Oct 24 2006, 11:25 AM Post #17 |
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I never cared for the random explosion type of city destruction, seemed kinda boring to me, also because it was often acompanied with no music. But I would say G54 is still the best, but close behind are Rodan, Varan, and Mothra. Especially during Mothra's Larval attack on Tokyo when she just continuously plows through buildings. Although you can see the cloth used to make the windows, I still think it was fun to see all that building destruction. |
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| Django | Oct 24 2006, 05:33 PM Post #18 |
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Yeah, the showa films had a lot of detail in the destruction |
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| Cyndi | Oct 27 2006, 09:04 PM Post #19 |
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Hey watching Kiryu trash stuff was one of the coolest scenes ever in any Godzilla film. |
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| Django | Feb 8 2007, 06:53 PM Post #20 |
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That's true, but what we're saying is that the way the buildings are destroyed doesn't look as realistic as it did in the showa series |
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| Zardac the Great | Jun 12 2007, 02:24 PM Post #21 |
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Well, for one thing, it would be nice if someone actually attacked the buildings instead of just walking along. There is a place for just walking along causing destruction, but it has for the most part replaced actually attacking the buildings. |
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| EternalMothra | Jun 14 2007, 09:41 PM Post #22 |
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Well Mothra isn't going to pull off some magnifiscent destructive feat like Godzilla could. What is she going to do, roll up in a ball and carreen through Tokyo? XD |
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| darthzilla99 | Jun 20 2007, 08:07 PM Post #23 |
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I could see it possible. It would depend on the material the building was made of. I think the trend of random exsplosions started in biollante. In the part of biollante when godzilla's tail hits a building, it kind of explodes and did not crumble town in the direaction it was hit. In G85, the building destruction was very well detailed and crumbled in the direaction it got hit. |
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| Godzy | Jun 21 2007, 02:10 PM Post #24 |
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The one scene in G84 where Godzilla is chasing the SuperX and causes the oil refinery to exploded is awsome! For a moment, the whole screen is covered in flames and in the next scene, the whole area is decimated. Perfect! |
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| EternalMothra | Jun 21 2007, 11:42 PM Post #25 |
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Grand King Ghidorah's destruction was kinda cool. He literally shredded the buildings. |
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