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    Rygama & Zath-Trihaug vs Akemi & Chaos Dementor
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    Rygama & Zath-Trihaug

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    Akemi & Chaos Dementor

    Arena: Ogasawara Island

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    Biochemitra
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    For the first time, Rygama faces a sentient enemy that can register optics...

    Frankly, I see Akemi going for Rygama - what with her being an aggressive lesbian dominatrix -, leaving Chaos Dementor to deal with Zath-Trihaug.

    Now, where restraining Gojulas Giga would've given CD a good shot at victory, Zath-Trihaug largely counters. If Z-T breaks out the particle manipulators, CD's in trouble. Zath's body is almost pure muscle, so crushing it is something even CD's going to have to work for, all the while having to deal with Zath-Trihaug's retaliation. I just don't think Chaos Dementor can keep up with Zath-Trihaug's ordinance, even with his telekinetix strength.

    Rygama vs Akemi is decidedly more fun. Definitely a brawl for the better portion, where Rygama's superior melee abilities would probably tip the scales in her favor. However, I'd like to bring attention to something else. As an entity creature, her brain is utterly bizarre. Akemi will be unable to find any sort of mind within Rygama unless Ry allows it. Naturally, this would probably drive Akemi mad. While that's not neceserrily a good thing, in Rygama's case, it probably is, since it gives her an edge in not only superior brutality - as Rygama actually fights to kill - but also strategy, as she's not the one having a conniption.

    I'm gonna side with Rygama and Zath-Trihaug, due to being highly adapted for these kinds of enemies.
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    Yay, finally a decent match...



    And I have to debate against my best friend, didn't I?

    Meh, moving on...


    Bio brings up a good point: Akemi is going to (again) be stark-raving mad at the fact she can't screw with Rygama(why is my little girl always getting the short end of the stick in this category?). This is probably what's going to save Akemi from losing. Now, while Akemi can't match Rygama in terms of actual fighting *Ability*, I don't think she'll need to. She's still got a 10 in strength, and even though Rygama has a 10...it's still a 10 vs a 10. She's going to -hurt- Rygama. Personally, I think it really comes down to just how long can Akemi last? She's a determined little whore, if nothing else.

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    I do agree, this is one of the more interesting battles. Akemi and Rygama would be an interesting sight to see. I'm kinda abstaining for the moment too.

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    I completely disagree with Bio for one reason: Chaos Dementor isn't going for Zath, and Rygama won't have the chance to actually decide. See, Akemi and CD can communicate telekinetically, and I think they'll decide that Akemi needs to fight Zath rather quickly. Why? Because then they can win. Rygama is strong. Really strong and really dangerous. But CD is the anti-Rygama. His telekinetic strength matches, at least, her physical strength, but he has two advantages: range and fatigue. Eventually Rygama will tire, Chaos Dementor won't. Rygama also won't be getting close enough to actually do anything, either, and none of her ranged moves can really do anything. So, really, it ends up being Rygama kicking and flailing in the air until she's bludgeoned to death.

    Akemi and Zath is another ballgame. I really don't know who would win, but I think Akemi could last long enough. And actually, I know CD will be more than happy to use Rygama as a club against Zath.

    This is definately the most interesting fight thus far, and it's very close, but at this point I'll say Akemi and Chaos Dementor.
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    completely disagree with Bio for one reason: Chaos Dementor isn't going for Zath, and Rygama won't have the chance to actually decide. See, Akemi and CD can communicate telekinetically, and I think they'll decide that Akemi needs to fight Zath rather quickly. Why? Because then they can win. Rygama is strong. Really strong and really dangerous. But CD is the anti-Rygama. His telekinetic strength matches, at least, her physical strength, but he has two advantages: range and fatigue. Eventually Rygama will tire, Chaos Dementor won't. Rygama also won't be getting close enough to actually do anything, either, and none of her ranged moves can really do anything. So, really, it ends up being Rygama kicking and flailing in the air until she's bludgeoned to death.


    There are a number of things I would like to call attention to, based on that point.

    Rygama's resistance to blunt trauma is greater than any other resistance of hers. Edged, heat, peircing and the like can still hurt her without a phenominal amount of punishment behind them. Still, she's 80,000 tons of tightly packed muscle, covered in a thick outer shell. There's simply no way Chaos Dementor can bludgeon her to death before something steps in his way, be it Rygama or Zath-Trihaug, who, again, is well-adapted for keeping his partner safe, what with his extra brain.

    Secondly, Rygama is able to fly without the use of her wings. This means she actually levitates in flight, which also means simply restraining her wings won't keep her from fighting in the air. Chaos Dementor will have his proverbial hands full trying to keep her in place.

    I'd also like to point out that Rygama's ranged attacks, while impotent in the long run, are very dangerous the few times they can be used. There's a good chance one of her plasma gobs will knock something loose on Chaos Dementor, freeing her up to stamp him out of the picture, or simply eat one of his body parts and prevent him from reforming.

    Then there's the Zath-Trihaug factor. As I said, two brains, one opponent, and a partner in need of assistance. One good pass with a projectile and he can knock Chaos Dementor loose, freeing his partner.

    And I stand by what I said, Akemi will want to go after Rygama at some point. Chaos Dementor may want to go after her first, but I doubt Akemi will agree, since she has a distinct habit of singling out female adversarries to play with.
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    I absalutely question the staying power of Akemi, especially against something like Zath-Trihaug.

    Akemi has nothing that the squids can't quickly counter and since Akemi isn't nearly as agressive in the quick-killing department as Z-T are, then she's in for one hell of a time before she gets turned into mince meat.

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    Chaos Dementor isn't going for Zath, and Rygama won't have the chance to actually decide. See, Akemi and CD can communicate telekinetically, and I think they'll decide that Akemi needs to fight Zath rather quickly. Why? Because then they can win. Rygama is strong. Really strong and really dangerous. But CD is the anti-Rygama.

    uh, what makes you think this? These opponents have never seen eachother before, you can't read either of your opponents minds. All your going on is physical apperance. Bios theory is more credible then yours.
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    And so Akemi is just going to assume Rygama is female? Okaaaayyy...Secondly, Rygama's plasma fireballs probably have enough matter to to caught. Thirdly, Rygama can fly around all she wants, once CD wants her held, she ain't moving. Oh, and as for the going straight for Rygama, CD might think it's a good idea simply because she has, oh I dunno, giant claws? Kind of a dead giveaway.

    Another point: once Rygama is in the air being swung around like a toy, CD will happily use her as a shield. Now, Akemi may not like the interruption, but CD's telekinesis is stronger than hers. Plus, she might just need the help. And let's see how Rygama fares against her partner's lovely weapons.
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    And so Akemi is just going to assume Rygama is female? Okaaaayyy...


    With THOSE hips, how could she be anything else?
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    as opposed to ignoring this?

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    Both are cosmic entites. Seriously, your claim that Chaos Dementor will attack Rygama first because she has "teh klawz" is just grasping at straws.
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    And so Akemi is just going to assume Rygama is female? Okaaaayyy...


    With THOSE hips, how could she be anything else?

    Please don't make me explain that that is truly frightening.
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    Umm..even though Akemi likes to get close, she's got a deadly ranged-ability that she's not afraid to use up-close..

    You're all assuming she'll just slug it out..once she realizes this = not working, she'll resort to either the Corona Beam or the AT Field Bolts.

    Not to mention that hitting CD is going to be a lovely lady. He's a mobile artillery platform. And all the time you're not hitting him...he's hitting you.
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    Umm..even though Akemi likes to get close, she's got a deadly ranged-ability that she's not afraid to use up-close..

    Blitzkreig is a term you should be familiar with.

    and Akemi will be on the other end of it.

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    You're all assuming she'll just slug it out..once she realizes this = not working, she'll resort to either the Corona Beam or the AT Field Bolts.

    Yes, once she realizes that won't work, she'll be royally shafted.

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    Not to mention that hitting CD is going to be a lovely lady. He's a mobile artillery platform. And all the time you're not hitting him...he's hitting you.


    Ditto for Zath-Trihaug.
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    CD is actually perfect for both of these foes. Zath equals a bunch of knots and Rygama equals a bludgeon. Or, CD just holds them together in the air and Akemi blitzes as they spin about rather helplessly. What can they do against CD's telekinetic firepower? He can use his environment as a working shield, and he's got limitless (as far as this tournament is concerned) telekinetic strength he can wield with unmatched deftness. He may just break Rygama's arm's, pin Zath to the ground to be blitzed, and keept switching back and forth until his pock shots take them both out, along with the sadist blitzkrieg known as Akemi.
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    See, now if he could do that; he has no place in this tournement because that is bullshit in its purest form. Since he is *gasp!* perfect for all foes!

    using that same train of thought, Zath-Trihuag peels of Akemis skin with his laser whips, tears her in half. With Chaos Dementor forced to deal with both of them, Rygama shreads him apart while Z-T blasts him apart chunk by chunk and then they dance merrily off into the sunset.
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    True, true. I won't disagree with you. However, he can hold both of your titans off by himself, and they won't even try to fight back. His reality bending attacks will atually work this round, and they will wreak havoc.

    Now, before you counter-argue that "Zath has telepathic resistance" and "Rygama has that fancy brain that makes it so telepathic attacks won't work", let me point out that they will. They are only psychic attacks in the broadest sense, and what's more, I specifically said they affect biological critters with even the best defenses against them. So, this means that while Rygama and Zath may not be as totally engulfed in whatever reality Chaos Dementor sees fit to torment them with, they'll still be taken out of the fight long enough for Akemi and CD to walk all over them.
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    Now, before you counter-argue that "Zath has telepathic resistance" and "Rygama has that fancy brain that makes it so telepathic attacks won't work", let me point out that they will. They are only psychic attacks in the broadest sense, and what's more, I specifically said they affect biological critters with even the best defenses against them


    Rygama's isn't a defense, it's simply a totally alien consciousness. Against her own kind, she'd actually be considered vulnerable to telepathy, but since there are no other necroneural mutations in the tournament(save the late Myathrax), it's considered a resistance. Not a defense, but a resistance.

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    CD is actually perfect for both of these foes. Zath equals a bunch of knots and Rygama equals a bludgeon. Or, CD just holds them together in the air and Akemi blitzes as they spin about rather helplessly. What can they do against CD's telekinetic firepower? He can use his environment as a working shield, and he's got limitless (as far as this tournament is concerned) telekinetic strength he can wield with unmatched deftness. He may just break Rygama's arm's, pin Zath to the ground to be blitzed, and keept switching back and forth until his pock shots take them both out, along with the sadist blitzkrieg known as Akemi.


    Except both Rygama and Zath-Trihaug are equipped with fast moving ranged weapons which stand a good chance of disrupting Chaos Dementor's body.

    And I can prettymuch guarantee you that even Chaos Dementor's not going to be able to break Rygama's arm without considerable attention focused on it. Attention that he must divert away from Zath-Trihaug.

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    Not to mention that hitting CD is going to be a lovely lady. He's a mobile artillery platform. And all the time you're not hitting him...he's hitting you.


    'Mobile' is being uncharacteristically generous, of you. A living artillery platform, yes, but mobile?
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    Good thing Zath-Trihaug is more then smart enough to see through the illusion. He's got the experiance to know when he's getting dupped and wouldn't be above letting Rygama know about it.

    Quite frankly, I don't see how an illusion that dosen't effect the mind would actually work. The mind is what gathers and precives information, if you're not somehow directly making contact with that, you're just blowing smoke.

    Akemi dosen't have alot going for her in this match, she's royally out-gunned when she's combating Zath-Trihaug and out-fought when she brawls with Rygama. She lacks the aggressivness, because if she thinks she can intimidate and brutalize the Squids or Rygama, she'll be in for a shock.

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    I question her being "Out Fought". All of Akemi's ranged attack have a "9". She's going to be laying down the hurt on either Rygama or Zath, while CD is filling the sky with various beams and such. Is she going to die? Probably. Doesn't matter though. All she needs to do is weaken/kill Zath or Rygama, and whatevers left, CD can take.
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    Chaos Dementor has no beams.

    As his partner, you, of all people, should know that.
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    Chaos Dementor has no beams.

    As his partner, you, of all people, should know that.

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    Chaos Dementor not having long range weapons is going to make it very difficult for him to battle kaiju like Rygama and ZT.

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    Chaos Dementor not having long range weapons is going to make it very difficult for him to battle kaiju like Rygama and ZT.

    Uh, yes he does. Insanely strong psychokinesis anyone? He has those scary illusion powers too, and with a Ranged Stat of "10" he can use those pretty easily and subtly, even against Rygama and Zath (probably the two non-mechas most ideally suited against illusory techniques).
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    BSDQ is right. Rygama and Zath might be affected more than most, rather than less, by CD's reality bending techniques. Zath especially. This is true becuase so much of their power is focused on the mind, which the reality alterations focus on. And Darkside: the reality techniques are not mere illusions, simple hat tricks thrown over the mind to disguise something, they are total reworkings of your reality from inside your brain. Under no circumstances, without outside intervention, will Zath be able to tell it's not real (and it sort of is) because his very brains are making it real. Like the Matrix...

    Rygama is different, yet not too much. Because so much of her power and strength comes from her unique brain setup, having her own mind rip her reality to pieces will end badly. So basically, your super-powered minds offer some resistance to actual entry, though given the only partially telepathic nature of the attack (it's telepathic, somewhat chemical, and in a way meta-physical) not too much. But once CD hacks in, your great big minds are just like giant playgrounds for one sick puppy.
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    BSDQ is right. Rygama and Zath might be affected more than most, rather than less, by CD's reality bending techniques. Zath especially. This is true becuase so much of their power is focused on the mind, which the reality alterations focus on.

    uh, what? Where did you read that Z-Ts abilites are based around the mind?

    and no, I don't think Dan is agreeing with you. although, i could be reading it wrong.
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    (probably the two non-mechas most ideally suited against illusory techniques).


    and enough of this. I have psychic resistance. it's right there in my stats, so with all due respect, p*ss off. It's why I put that abiltiy...I think psychic powers are cheap and lame. but that's for anougher topic.

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    Psychic/ Ressitance - The minds of Zath and Trihaug are inter-twined. They're are as close as brothers could be. Their collective minds are like the symbol of Yin-Yang; an unbreakable balance of light and darkness. This perfected state of mind gives them an enhanced resistance to telepathic manipulation.

    Intelligence - Zath-Trihaug have existed for thousands of years, have seen an uncountable amount of dimensions, plants, galaxies and species. There knowledge of the cosmos is matched only by beings of god-like divinity. Weigher they chose to apply this knowlege in combat, is anougher question all together.

    Cosmic Awarness - Zath-Trihaug has an unearthly awarness of his physical surroundings. Similar to a "Spidey-sense", this sense is controled intirely by a seperate organ which is directly wired into his muscular system. So the space entites body will react automatically to dodge any incoming projectiles.
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