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    Topic Started: May 15 2008, 06:58 PM (1,463 Views)
    Gigan7
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    Creator of the Echo series
    Name: El Arana
    Height: 52 meters
    Weight: 8,200
    Gender: Female
    Type: genetic experiment
    alignment: Neutral
    Story appearances:Echo’s of Destruction 2 : The Conspiracy Web


    Powers/Weapons:

    Intelligence: Arana’s most dangerous weapon. She possesses a remarkable IQ that is more then likely beyond even the typical human and continues to expand with each new experience. She is a remarkable tactician coming up with winning scenarios to even some of the most hopeless situations.

    Speed: Extremely fast, capable of surpassing even the fastest land based Kaiju such as zilla. Arana can even keep even pace with some of the slower flyers.

    Strength: with the usage of her webbing can usually hoist up an object roughly the size of showa Godzilla or smaller.

    Fangs: Very strong. Most Armor’s and Metals will be punctured by these fangs with relative ease.

    Webbing: her silk is very strong especially in large increments (capable of holding a falling building in place), it can also be released from both the mouth and the abdomen

    Venom: A very deadly poison most creatures do not survive the toxin. The mortality rate of the poison is determined by two things weight and alignment. A light kaiju such as zilla will go down within seconds of the poison entering the bloodstream but a heavier kaiju such as Hesie Godsilla or Space Godzilla will require much more poison and more time for the poison to take effect. heavy evil kaiju will still feel the effects of the poison faster than other heavier kaiju. El Arana is also immune to her own venom as well as other poisons.


    Lethality of poison based upon weight:
    Ultra-Lightweight: Zilla (Gino)-500 metric tons Good: 30 seconds Evil: 20 seconds
    Lightweight: Mothra (GMK) 15,000 metric tons Good: 50 seconds Evil: 29 Seconds
    Medium Weight: Rodan (Final Wars) 30,000 metric tons: Good: One minute Evil: 30 seconds
    Heavy Weight: Godzilla (Heisei) 60,000 metric tons Good: 1 minute 30 seconds Evil: 1 minute
    Very Heavy Weight: Keizer Ghidorah 100,000 metric tons: Good: 2 minutes Evil: 1 minute 17 seconds
    Maximum Weight: Biollante 200,000 metric tons Good: 3 minutes Evil: 2 minutes 20 seconds
    (these are pumping times, after venom is fully pumped allow four minutes until kaiju drops dead. there will be a burning sensation inside of evil kaiju)



    Autonomy: El Arana can sever her own leg if need be and grow it back in a matter of Seconds.

    Needle spears: the hairs on her back can be launched at an opponent; if they penetrate they will release a nerve paralyzing agent that will render the offending kaiju completely immobile for a period of one minute. Once drained of the toxin the hairs explode with usually enough force to break the legs of an opponent with a thin bone structure such as Kumonga. The needles cannot penetrate metal, super thick skin or any kind of armor plating whether it be organic or metallic


    Ishrakanil beam: can fire a green energy beam from mouth. The strength of this beam is determined on the “Evil” within a kaiju. A good Kaiju will feel the minimum effects (wich is still rather painful.) wheras an “Evil” kaiju will feel the full force of the beam no matter what kind of armoring the creature may have. good/neutral kaiju recive a beam roughly as powerful as Hesise Godzilla's whereas Evil kaiju feel a power similar to Godzilla's orange spiral ray

    Camouflage: her cameo is nearly perfect. So long as she stays perfectly still she is virtually undetectable save through infrared. El arana can even lower her heart beat to a virtually standing point in order to avoid sensitive audio.

    Ishrakinel: El Arana's entire blood stream is teaming with the powers of the Ishrakinel stone wich makes her webbing, beam and venom stronger on "evil" kaiju.

    Misc: she can read body movements and changes in air speed which allows her to know when an attack is coming.

    Weakness:

    Durability: El Arana was designed for evasionary hit and run tactics not toe to toe brawling. She canshe can be batted around and scratched up a little bit and possibly survive One direct hit from a beam on the same power level as hers, but other then that any direct hit from strong beam or weapon will take her out of commission.


    Description: A gigantic black tarantula like spider whose body is covered with spiny like hairs.

    Biography: Born in a secret laboratory deep in the bowels of Sogell Island El Arana was born in to captivity. It is uncertain precisely when she “awoke” from her drone like mind set only that she did. It wasn’t very obvious at first just small signs of independence here and there: Not eating at the scheduled meal time, choosing to sleep in the right corner of her cell instead of the left. But soon her mind expanded as day after day she would watch the funny little pink creatures scurry about their daily tasks picking up on their habits and language she even began distinguishing one pinkie from another. She had once heard the creature’s referred to as humans but much like an adolescent child would prefer to call a dog “kitty” Arana much preferred pinkie over human. More time passed and El Arana’s mind began to look for other things to occupy it. Before long El Arana had learned everything there was to learn in her little world, including what buttons opened her cell. On one particular October night El Arana managed to escape from her underground complex and enjoy a brief moment freedom before her creator the malevolent Ataru Walker put an end to her free spirited whims. When walker recaptured her she was tortured and beaten until finally her spirit was shattered. El Arana became the faithful slave of Ataru Walker doing his bidding no matter what. That is until she was forced to fight Kumonga that battle would change everything.


    Battle Scene: Dust kicked up as the golden space dragon Ghidorah landed in all his malevolent glory. An eerie cackle washed over the city of Tokyo that meant death to any opposition. The three serpentine necks writhed about spraying yellow lighting in every direction. In less then an hour the entire city of Tokyo would be leveled by the King of Terror, Ghidorah cackled again as he wallowed in the sheer pleasure of the carnage he was creating. Ghidorah felt a tickling sensation run along his spinal column. The space Dragon swiveled its heads around to turn its body to face the source of the strange feeling. A Barrage of spear like needles flew at King Ghidorahs chest as he turned. The needles fell harmlessly to the ground his golden scales were far too thick to be penetrated by such pathetic means. The Tri beast followed the direction of the needles settling its eyes on a malformed patch of rubble. If it weren’t for the creatures constant firing Ghidorah would never be able to find the nuisance. A quick bolt of electricity left the central heads mouth blasting the source of the needle spears. A large black spider bounded out of the way and scrambled around another fallen building. EL Arana had been waiting patiently for the last three hours waiting for the space beast to show. Her new masters wanted the creature as a prize and had temporarily allowed her to think freely so that she could be at her peak to capture this most elusive prize. Her new masters were idiots. This was a kill or be killed battle ghidorah would not beg like a trained dog, no; She would have to kill him, and thanks to Mr. Walker she knew she could. She could see Ghidorah frantically searching the battlefield for her but with out some sort of magical ESP he would never see her until she wanted to be found. El Arana slowly crawled away from her hiding spot. She had to be careful moving scenery tended to look suspicious and often times gave away her position, but if she moved slow enough most of her opponents never noticed, and ghidorah certainly didn’t seem to be much of a tactical thinker he was all, all brawn and no brains as the old clique went. She watched as Ghidorah turned his back to her, Perfect! That faint sound of energy crackling filled the air as a green light danced amongst Arana’s mandibles. Ghidorah quickly flung its entire body around in reaction to the sound only to be greeted by a massive green energy beam smacking directly into his chest. The beams force was impressive knocking the space demon off of his feet and flying back about twelve yards. El Arana quickly scrambled over to the fallen ghidorah. A giant circular, scorch mark matted Ghidorahs smoking chest. Never before had Ghidorah felt such pain his wound still burned with the energies of the black spiders beam. Ghidorah shook off the pain and was about to right himself when a new screaming pain shot through his nervous system. Ghidorah howled in pain as its right head was engulfed in spider silk. The middle head attempted to rip the silk off but the substance stuck fast. With all the strength the golden dragon opened its right jaw long enough to fire one of his gravity rays. The bolt seared off the webbing freeing ghidorahs head. Ghidorah fired madly around the city attempting to hit the large spider. Arana dipped and dodged every stray bolt but she knew sooner or later he would have to hit her and then it would be all over she wouldn’t be able to take a direct hit from on of the beams, but she had an idea. Arana scrambled into the most devastated section of the city scrambling up and over the tightly packed rubble, Ghidorah would not be able to follow her in here, he was far to large and his bolts would have to tear through the rubble before they reached her. The space dragon flew circles overhead trying to locate any sign of El Arana. Arana camouflaged her self and rested silently on top of a fallen building. Gidorah flew a little lower analyzing the battle ground.

    “Come on you three headed twit, Just a little lower.” El Arana thought to herself. She watched intently as Ghidorah descended just within her reach.

    El Arana moved like lighting the very second Ghidorah came within her fierng range she launched a volley of needles at the dragon. The needles bounced of Ghidorahs scales. The Dragon let out its fierce cackle opening its left mouth wide. Five carefully aimed spears left El Arana’s back three in the roof of the mouth and two straight into the soft tissue of the eye. Ghidorah screeched and began blasting everything in sight. El Arana quickly moved to a safer location until the needles finished their job. Ghidorh felt his joints stiffening when suddenly the spears exploded tearing through the back of ghdiorahs through and obliterating his left eye. Screams echoed through out the devastated city as the mighty King Ghidorah Fell its muscles completely paralyzed and its left head a bloody, Smoking mess. El Arana scurried over to the fallen dragon and quickly bound each of its heads in webbing before coming closer. Ghidorah would not be moving anytime soon, she should end it all right here but her orders were to take the creature alive and she could not disobey, so now all she had to do was sit and wait until her masters came and retrieved her.
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    LOL, you don't have a "Name" section. XD

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    the name must have gotten cut off in the transfer from word to the forum it should be fixed now.
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    And one more little thing, I know this is extremely fussy, but can you bold, italicize, and underline the correct things that are stated in the template. I'm not trying to be picky, it just makes reading the profile a lot easier for us if we need to pinpoint something easily.

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    Ok. Overall a good kaiju, but there are a couple of things I think need to be addressed. First of all the venom. I think being lethal to light weight kaiju, especially if they're "evil", within seconds or even just a short time is a bit strong for the tournament. I understand venom is lethal, and it seems to be your main weapon, but being able to take out lightweight foes, of which there are several here, in one or two attacks is just a bit much. Also, I'd like some rough estimates of time based on mass ranges, so we have something solid to go on during the matches. I want a standard so it's not totally based on a whim each and every match.

    The needle hairs also seem like a bit too much. Rendering the opposing kaiju completely immobile, seemingly regardless of defenses, is quite a lot. Plus being able to explode with enough force to break limbs in addition to that? That seems like a lot. I think that the needle spears should be toned down some.

    I'm a little fuzzy on the Ishrakanil beam. You say it changes power depending on the good or evil of the target, but you don't give any sort of reference or comparison so that anyone knows how powerful any level of the beam is.

    The whole "evil" kaiju thing might be a problem as well, as it's very subjective. I'm not saying it's not a good idea, but it could lead to arguments between creators down the road if the word "evil" is not specifically used in their kaiju submission.

    Your weaknesses just don't cut it, frankly. Yeah El Arana isn't cut out for going toe to toe with other brawlers, but one single weakness when combined with all of the powers she has just isn't going to cut it. I'd like to see another weakness or two in that section.
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    The whole "evil" kaiju thing might be a problem as well, as it's very subjective. I'm not saying it's not a good idea, but it could lead to arguments between creators down the road if the word "evil" is not specifically used in their kaiju submission.


    In that case should we have all the members go in and label whether their kaiju is "good, evil, or neutral" ?

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    In that case should we have all the members go in and label whether their kaiju is "good, evil, or neutral" ?

    An interesting idea, but if we do our job on the entries correctly it should be obvious in and off itself.
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    True it would. But still, that would mean having to read in between the lines. If they come out and just state it, it would be a lot easier for us lol.

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    Well, a flat out statement would be the only way to outright solve the problem. Take my two kaiju for example. Both are somewhat vicious, and Raasgiel is even malicious and nasty against mana-based creatures, but I would call both of them neutral. Neither has any real will to forcefully go about spreading harm and destruction (Raasigiel did only because mana was harmful to it, and the earth was giving off mana, so it was trying to remove a source of pain in essence).

    So, really, the only way to prevent any arguments before they start would be to have the creator go in ahead of time and specify what alignment their kaiju is. Thus, I agree with EM.
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    I guess we should probably go ahead and do that then.
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    alrighty, lets start with the venom issue. I'm not sure what you think she can do with this . its not like she can spit it out at her opponent she actually has to bite and begin pumping poison into the kaiju's body before anything can happen so it's not like its an end all be all weapon it requires some intense stragey to pull off which is alot more difficult then one may think. as for the timing on each poison that I'm going to have you pick which kaiju are the best representatives of light weight and heavy weight and I will come up with an appropriate time for each body weight.

    now on to the needel spears I can see how these may cause some confusion let me see if I cant shed some light on the subject. The spears themselves like I said don't penetrate metal or really thick skin but that also includes any kind of armor plating whether cybernetic or organic or bone like structures. the actual toxin if you want a time limit for that I can easily supply one. and as for the explosions the breaking of bones is more to to poor wording then actully snapping limbs in half. The spears detonate with strong charge but there only going break limbs in the case of kaiju who are operating on a slim bone system such as kumonga. creatures like king ghidorah even if the spears manged to penetrate his legs they wouldent break anything just cause pain and mabey some tissue damage, mabey.

    as far as the ishra beam I was thinking roughly along the lines of hesie era G's flame breath and the "evil" factor bumbing it up to more in the orange spiral ray department.

    Apparently you guys settled the "evil" factor amongst yourselves so I wont go into that

    as for the weakness, I really dont see why she need another one. when I say she can take a few hits I mean mainly melee tooth and claw kind of action. she can be batted around and scratched up a little bit Mabey, possibly if she's having a really good day survive ONE blow from a beam equal to her own but thats about it. And If you really need her to have another handicap just look at her stats the majority of her attacks desperately rely on her opponent being organic and to add to that if her opponent just happens to be immune to pathogens shes in even more trouble.

    hope this sheds some light on the issues you had.
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    Ok, the explanations and such help, and I can understand the reason behind most of the attacks, so just add them to your actual submission for reference sake, and I think we should be fine. Give me a day or two to look up some kaiju in three or four weight classes for you to reference, and if possible, using the same weight classes, list the variation that would exist if the kaiju were good and evil in venom reaction times, and neutral if one exists (unless neutral is the starting point that you list to begin with).

    As for the needle spears, I think a time limit for the paralysis would be the least that should happen, and really I think that total paralysis is still a bit much, but if you add a time limit then I don't think you'll have to abolish it completely.
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    Name:Nusuku
    Other names: Fire dragon, Guardian of Atlantis
    Gender: Male
    Classification: Guardian
    alignment: Good
    Height: 90 meters
    Weight: 19,884 metric tons
    length: N/A
    Wingspan(when open):284 meters
    Flight speed: mach 10 (transportation) mach 7 (combat)

    Story appearance: Digging in the Darkness


    Attack and abilities:

    Fire Body: Nusuku's body is made completely of fire, which burns at blazing degrees though he can control the temp at will. Anything that comes in contact with Nusukus fiery skin will be burnt; the longer it stays connected the more damage the object receives. For the FFKT the flames reaching ability will be very short at best and the opposing monster will need to come into grappling distance before any sort of damaging heat can be felt. Also the heat from Nusukus body will either burn or melt solid projectiles before they manage to hit him, but the larger and denser the object the longer it takes to destroy. For example El Arana’s needle hairs would burn up before reaching Nusuku but a large chunk of stone would make contact. Nuskus's body will not instantly melt or seriously burn any monster. a monster must be holding on to Nusuku for at least 40 seconds before any kind of serious damage occurs.

    Physical fighter: an awesome physical fighter. He prefers straight tooth and claw combat to beam weapons. Nusukus fiery makeup also ensures any hit landed is augmented with intense flame and the same principle applies to receiving physical hits.

    Martial artist: Having been taught by King Seesar, Nusuku also knows a great deal of martial artist moves.

    Vision: Nusuku for all intents and purposes is blind, he can still make out shadows every now and then but nothing distinguishable. As a result the rest of the dragons senses are heightened allowing him to fight using sound, smell, touch and even taste as if he could see.

    Intelligence: Human like thought and rationality, but has a very hot temper and often gets lost in the bloodlust of battle relaying mainly on instinct then intelligence.

    Agility: Nusuku is fast though he is no speed demon he can run at an average pace . He is also very limber a necessity when being a hand to hand combatant.

    Durability: Tough as nails, Nusukus body is made of flame but their does seem to be something solid that a beam or a fist can come in contact with behind the fires. But make no mistake Nusuku is tough, and bred to fight he can take quite the beating before he goes down for the count.

    Flame breath: powerful flame attack that can be used either as a thick beam or a wave of fire. About twice as strong as fire Rodan’s beam.

    Smoke screen: Nusuku can level the playing field by releasing a thick blanket of smoke that covers the battlefield obscuring the opponent's vision. Even the vision of kaiju with abnormal sight such as, infrared or electrical conduits cannot see through this smog.

    Lava wings: his main form of transportation the wings do not appear until Nusuku calls for them. The wings are made of pure lava.

    Fireball: A very powerful weapon but unlike other monsters Nusuku can not fire it rapid succession, It takes about three minutes before Nusuku can gather enough energy for another one.

    Fire absorption: Nusuku can absorb any flame-based attack and use it to revitalize himself. Also Nusuku absorbs all the fire from an explosion leaving only the force to do damage, any fire from the surrounding environment will also be absorbed.

    Pyrokenisis: not only can Nusuku absorb fire but he can control it as well. Any normal flame is Nusukus plaything. He can also start small fires and mini explosions that serve only as distractions or very small power boosts.

    Bone blades: two giant black blades made of a bone like substance that Nusuku can grow through the top of his wrists. These blades can also be snapped off when they puncture an opponent.

    Blade explosion: Nusuku’s blood is like lighter fluid and if the situation calls for it he can force some of his blood into his bone blade and use his control of flame to spark an explosion inside them causing some minor damage to his enemies. The force of the explosion can usually knock most kaiju off their feet. This attack cannot be used often since like any living being Nusuku would become weak and dizzy from loss of blood.

    Telepathic whiplash: Nusuku's mind is like an inferno and even the most powerful battle harden telepaths find it Impossible to enter without being their own minds being scalded by the mental flames, as a result no telepath can read or enter the mind of Nusuku.

    Steam bath: when hit with water or ice Nusuku's body can evaporate small portions of the liquid and release skin scalding steam.


    Team player: Nusuku and the rest of the Guardiens are a true team. They work together like professionals using each others strengths and defending their weaknesses. Very few teams work as well as they do.

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    Misc: Any environment that contains a major source of Fire or extreme heat heightens all of Nusukus abilities. (Exp: Volcano, daytime-Desert ect…).

    Weaknesses:

    Azumie royal family: Nusuku and other Guardians have made a vow to protect the azumie family at all costs if any member of the family is present their safety will become Nusukus first priority.

    Arial fighter: Nusuku is a poor Arial fighter; he will keep the battle close to the ground for as long as possible, only taking to the sky if there is no other choice.

    Ice/water:Nusuku is extremely vulnerable to ice, water and low tempture attacks.

    Acid:Acid will not harm Nusuku, but it will dampen his flame abilities a bit until it evaporates which takes about a minute.

    Temper: Nusuku while being an excellent hand to hand combatant dose tend to lose his temper if the battle is going poorly attacking in savage rage instead of collective reason. His temper will cool after a minute or so as he regains his worrier’s composure. One thing to point out is that as Nusuku's temper flares so dose his body temp.

    Disruption: a strong blow of blunt force to the top of Nusuku's head can distoriant him for a few seconds making it difficult to find his foe. unusually High pitched sounds also have this same affect.


    Origin: Nusuku is an ancient guardian assigned to protect the people of Atlantis. He was defeated by the seatopians and has only recently been reawakened. The rest of his history is shrouded in mystery.

    Combat Style: Nusuku is mainly a ground combatant. he rarely takes the fight to the air since he is not the best arial fighter. But most of his abilities allow him to bring arial opponents down to his level. Nusuku is also a born worrier if it’s one thing he knows how to do its fight and he fights well. Nusuku never gives up even when the situation is hopeless he will always stand back up ready to fight.

    Personality: Nusuku has a very human personality one would almost suspect he was a human trapped in a monster’s body. Nusuku is also a worrier and as such shows and incredible amount of courage and chivalry. Nusuku’s courage is only trumped by his heart since deep down though he carries a very cold and macho personality he does care about the people under his protection. He also has a special affection for children and teenagers who are one the few beings that can encourage him to continue a fight when even he feels that a situation is hopeless.

    Description: body is that of an erect saurian that is made up entirely of flame, save for the claws an the top of his head which is covered by a black bony helmet of sorts with two stick like antler type horns ( like a chinese dragon) sticking out the back of his head. Even Nusukus teeth are of a blue flame.

    Battle scean from Digging in the Darkness:

    Nusuku picked up Megalon, the flames on his body burning the insect as they lapped over him.
    Megalon had managed to escape Nusuku's grip, bashing his metallic drill arms into the Guardians black skull. Nusuku staggered back, his head was pounding. He had to concentrate; he had to locate Megalon’s position. Nusuku suddenly smelled a distinct electrical odor. Energy crackled along Megalon's star shaped horn then was released in a bolt of electrical power similar to lightning. There was no time to dodge, the bolt of electricity smashed into Nusuku's chest. The fire dragon winced, and held the area where Megalon's beam had hit him. He looked up to see Megalon laughing with delight, banging its drill claws together in celebration. Nusuku quickly retaliated with a gust of orange flame that seared the flesh off of Megalon’s left shoulder, putting an end to the monstrous cockroaches boasting. Megalon, sounding like a strangled parrot shrieked as Nusuku’s flames struck his body. In desperation Megalon spat out a napalm bomb, but Nusuku had already grabbed the bomb and absorbed the flames of the explosion, Then he whipped around slamming his tail into Megalon. Megalon staggered backward its breathing raspy as it struggled for breath, the force of Nusuku's tail had knocked the wind out of him and probably damaged something vital as well. Before Megalon could recover he caught a glimpse of Nusuku who was now spinning through the air with incredible speed, Nusuku jutted out his right foot and smacked Megalon square in the head, sending the mammoth bug spiraling into his own statue which crumbled on top of him.

    The bleached eyes of Nusuku began glowing with the same color as the embers of a smoldering fire, immediately the area that encompassed Megalon’s hulking mass burst into flame, burning seatopia’s champion to death. Nusuku let out a long crackling roar of triumph. The celebration was short lived as Nusuku could hear the whirring of Megalon's spades digging beneath the earth, Megalon was stronger then Nusuku remembered. It was by dumb luck the he had been beaten by the guardian insect before, after fighting the Seatopian war machine Vanim and its subzero cannon he was very weak, and then those Seatopian filth unleashed Megalon to finish the job. Megalon burst forth from the dirt missing Nusuku who dodge in the nick of time. Nusuku snorted, So the big bug wanted to play hide and seek, Well he could play that game to. Nusuku's flaming jaws opened up and spewed forth a black smog that encompassed the battlefield, making visibility nonexistent. Darkness greeted Megalon as the titanic insect breeched the surface, although his eyes were adjusted to seeing through the blackness of the earth he could not see anything through this smoke. A piercing jab slammed through Megalon’s exoskeleton, Megalon shrieked and brought down his metallic spade arms, snapping off whatever had punctured him in Nusuku's inky smokescreen. Frantic, Megalon began to lose all control, waving his drills furiously at the emptiness surrounding him. Megalon's terrified shrieks filled the cavern as he fired electric bolts and napalm bombs in every possible direction…. Suddenly the smoke that filled the cavern began to dissipate, flowing backwards. As sight was restored to the cavern Megalon saw the smoke being sucked back in by Atlantis's guardian who possessed a black bony spike on his left wrist, the right one was lodged into Megalon’s abdomen. The Fire Dragon Nusuku breathed in the last wisp of smoke and faced the accursed seatopian idol. Megalon roared, spinning his drill's and firing his electric horn in Nusukus path. The guardian simply snorted, and the spike burrowed into Megalon exploded with tremendous force knocking the champion off his feet… Nusuku grabbed the drill arm of Megalon, the heat of his claws creating a imprint as the metal melted. Nusuku yanked Megalon away from the land M.O.G.E.R.A, giving victor a breather. Megalon screeched as the scorching heat of Nusukus body burned his skin. Nusuku tensed his muscles and with as much strength as he could muster he tore off Megalon’s left arm, dripping greenish blood from the gaping wounds. Nusuku then drove the drill through Megalon’s chest. Nusukus body glowed briefly as he released a large fireball that consumed Megalon in a magnificent explosion causing Seatopias protector to crash into ruined city.
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    Ok, this will be the first in a double post. The second will be for your new kaiju. this is the list of kaiju for El Arana's venom (sorry it took so long, I've been...occupied).

    For the sake of comparison, all of these kaiju should be considered neutral. Then please note the differences in time if they were "good" or "evil", so we have a base standard for comparison. Thanks.

    Ultra-Lightweight: Zilla (Gino)-500 metric tons
    Lightweight: Mothra (GMK) 15,000 metric tons
    Medium Weight: Rodan (Final Wars) 30,000 metric tons
    Heavy Weight: Godzilla (Heisei) 60,000 metric tons
    Very Heavy Weight: Keizer Ghidorah 100,000 metric tons
    Maximum Weight: Biollante 200,000 metric tons
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    Oh boy...um yeah. Ok, first of all, how hot are Nusuku's body flames? As in what can they burn/melt? Being made of flam and being primarily a tooth and claw fighter might be a problem.

    Ok, the smoke screen is a bit much. I'm really having a hard time seeing how, and why, it should block special modes of vision. It's really not like he needs to hide.

    Quite frankly, he just seems to have a little too much. I don't really see anything, besides maybe the part about being made of flame and the smoke screen, that makes him too powerful by itself, but the combination of so many different things is just too much. A powerful beam, plus a fireball, plus pyrokinesis, plus telepathic immunity, plus great durability, plus etc etc. He just has too many advantages and powers. Thin the list out a bit.

    And the weaknesses, well, don't quite cut it. The first one, I don't see how that even applies unless you want whoever creates the match to roll a dice and see if a member of the family is present or not. The water seems circumstantial. His temper, well, not that hampering of a weakness considering everything he's got to work with. The acid is like a weaker version of water. And he is mostly blind, but his other senses mostly make up for it.

    Really, I think you need to thin out his list of abilities a bit. Detail his fire body, and you may have tone it down, we'll see. And depending on what happens with his powers and abilities, we'll see about the weaknesses.
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    alright here's Arana's posion templet:

    Lethality of poison based upon weight:
    Ultra-Lightweight: Zilla (Gino)-500 metric tons Good: 10 seconds Evil: 5 seconds
    Lightweight: Mothra (GMK) 15,000 metric tons Good: 30 seconds Evil: 17 Seconds
    Medium Weight: Rodan (Final Wars) 30,000 metric tons: Good: One minute Evil: 30 seconds
    Heavy Weight: Godzilla (Heisei) 60,000 metric tons Good: 1 minute 30 seconds Evil: 1 minute
    Very Heavy Weight: Keizer Ghidorah 100,000 metric tons: Good: 2 minutes Evil: 1 minute 17 seconds
    Maximum Weight: Biollante 200,000 metric tons Good: 3 minutes Evil: 2 minutes 20 seconds


    now as for Nusuku, lets see what we can do.

    If the whole infrared/smokescreen thing really bothers you then I can take it away, no real problem. The Fireball well I can add a really long charge time to that if you want say anywhere between six-ten minutes he barely uses it anyway so if even that really, really bothered you, I can just cut it all together but I prefer to have the option even with an insane charge time. his pryokenieisis I can place in the stats that it will not affect any other kaiju's breath weapon it's merely a small assist during battle he's not going to summon a gigantic firestorm out of the air or anything like that. It's advantage is not a powerful as you may think its just a small little thing he can do to keep himself from dieing. as far as his durability it's not like he's going to shrug off the attacks that are thrown at him he does take damage and it does hurt and he does have to keep on fighting despite the pain he feels and like anyother organic being damage takes it's toll and most kaiju under battle conditions will eventually begin to lose stamina ,Nusuku is no exception. as for his flame body think of Nusuku like a candle if you wave your finger over the flame you feel nothing but some slight warmth but if you leave your finger there for a second or too it will be burned so when Nusuku touches something it really only burns them when they grappel. a punch,kick or a shove is not going to damage his opponent as long as they don't just stand there. If you still have concerns I'll need you to be specific about where they are so I can look them over. thanks.
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    Ok, I think you misunderstood me. I said I didn't really have any big problems with any of his individual powers (I'll get to the smokescreen in a second), so I don't know why you locked onto the fireball as such a big thing. What I was getting at is that he simply has too much. Between everything he has and his lack of any really harmful weaknesses, he just seems a little unbalanced. I think he either needs a couple more weaknesses or a few less powers.

    Now, the smokescreen. I just don't see why it should affect special modes of vision. Regular vision, ok. But why would smoke affect infrared or electro-vision (whatever that is) or other modes of vision other than regular sight. Now, the real reason behind my questioning this is, again, I don't see why he needs this additional advantage.

    For now, I leave it up to you to on how to make him more balanced. I think that that's fair. Also, since we went through this with El Arana and we're starting to go through this with Nusuku, if you have to explain so much about that many of his powers, abilities, or weaknesses, maybe you should detail his explanations a little so you don't have to go through as much trouble later.
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    Lethality of poison based upon weight:
    Ultra-Lightweight: Zilla (Gino)-500 metric tons Good: 10 seconds Evil: 5 seconds
    Lightweight: Mothra (GMK) 15,000 metric tons Good: 30 seconds Evil: 17 Seconds
    Medium Weight: Rodan (Final Wars) 30,000 metric tons: Good: One minute Evil: 30 seconds
    Heavy Weight: Godzilla (Heisei) 60,000 metric tons Good: 1 minute 30 seconds Evil: 1 minute
    Very Heavy Weight: Keizer Ghidorah 100,000 metric tons: Good: 2 minutes Evil: 1 minute 17 seconds
    Maximum Weight: Biollante 200,000 metric tons Good: 3 minutes Evil: 2 minutes 20 seconds

    Holy one hit kill, Batman! That's way, way, WAY too effective. Unless Arana is made of paper, that means that even the largest kaiju we'll allow Has 2.5 to 3 minutes to defeat her before it dies (unless by "take effect" you mean "start a slow weakening process that will eventually lead to death"). That's way, way, way too much for a monster to be balanced, particularly one that is already an incredible melee fighter with two devastating long range attacks (you state she prefers hit an run tactics, but from her power list she'd be just as good beating the crap out of kaiju before killing them). I suggest making the venom a paralyzing agent, or significantly increasing the time it would take for it to take effect and making it just painful as opposed to lethal.

    True, she has to get in an bite an opponent, but that shouldn't be too hard since she's A. super fast and B. has super strength and C. has super strong fangs. All in all, it's a one hit kill.

    I understand that she has low durability, and that sorta compensates, but really I think you should just decrease her venom a tad and increase her durability a bit. She could still be the "hit and run" fighter you state she is, but this way she'd be a more fair opponent, as otherwise the battle is essentially going to be a coin toss.

    Also, I have qualms as to the good/evil deciding factor with her weapons, since several of the kaiju posted so far are neither (or at least not identified as "good" or "evil"). There are several who have heroic or villainous tendencies, but most of the ones I've seen are neutral. How do the "alignment" based attacks effect them? Are neutral kaiju immune? Are they automatically considered good, and get the longer time limit? Do they get something in between?

    Onto Nusuku:
    He needs a few more weaknesses, since ones like "The Azumie Royal Family" and "water" are largely situational. I would allow you to keep that section as is if you severely decreased the heat of his body flames. As LordNidhogg brought up, the ability for him to incinerate everything that touches him before it can do real damage means any tooth and claw kaiju is instantly useless: the only thing that could do damage to him is a beam spammer with water or ice attacks, since pretty much every other form of energy isn't going to do squat to fire.

    If you weakened his fire body to the point where it
    just scorches objects bigger than an elephant, I think we would be okay. As is he has too many strong attacks and defenses and too few weaknesses that don't depend on coincodence to be a balanced entry.
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    I agree with Tyrantis about the venom. I was antsy about it in the beginning, but I obliged to give you a weight list before making a final call. The final call on my end is no way. El Arana is fast, has big fangs, and turns just about invisible when she's not moving. Combined with a nigh-instant kill weapon, explain to me how that's balanced? Sorry, but despite your defense saying

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    its not like she can spit it out at her opponent she actually has to bite and begin pumping poison into the kaiju's body before anything can happen


    it really just doesn't cut it with kill times like that. She has every advantage for the perfect venom delivery system, and those kill times are ridiculous. Plus, you didn't even include times for neutral kaiju like I asked. So, tone down the venom. I'm thinking along Tyrantis' line of thought, as in not killing at all. Now, if you have a different idea, please feel free to present it. But that venom is just too strong, regardless of how much trouble you picture her having injecting it.
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    Whoa! easy fellas no need to go for my juggler. I'm not against you here, I apologize if I said anything that might have sounded offensive to you, but truly I'm only trying to work with you guys. I'm simply offering suggestions on how we can go about making my monsters more acceptable to you. You want increased time on things or attacks changed or deleted, fine, it's really not a problem. I obviously would like to keep my monsters as close to the original bios as possible but since the current standing bios are causing problems we alter them to where they dont create any more problems.

    You wanted some of Nusuku's attacks eliminated then I'll just get rid of the fireball and pyrokenisis.
    If thats not enough then let me know so I can see if there's anything else I can trim.

    as for El Arana, I'm sorry, the neutral thing simply slipped my mind when i wrote the stats mainly because there is no difference in the effects between Good and Neutral.
    as for the Venom, relax. You want a higher reaction rate no problem but you obviously have a reaction time in your minds otherwise you wouldn't feel that the poison was too effective so I would like to hear what you believe to be a fair reaction time and we can negotiate from their.

    All I'm saying here is that I'm doing my best to give you what you want. I 'm not interested in an argument over fictional monster bios but I'm also not interested in altering my profiles a dozen times, so I just need you guys to be absolutely clear on what your problems are so that I don't alter my bio and suddenly theres a new problem. Just spell out all your problems and I'll go over them and see if I can come up with some middle ground where everyone's okay with the outcome. alright, thanks guys I appreciate your cooperation.
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    Hey, no need to feel attacked, it's our job to be jerks about this kind of stuff.

    El Arana: Longer venom times would be good, but toning the venom down so it was less lethal overall would be better. However, I'm willing to work with you, so go ahead and increase the venom times first and then we'll see about further toning down.

    Nusuku: You don't need to get rid of the fireball or pyrokinesis if you don't want to, but you'd have to come up with some suitable weaknesses to balance out his bevy of strengths. Plus, you still haven't addressed our concern about his body flames, which is my biggest concern (I don't know about Tyrantis). I just want to make sure that tooth and claw fighters, or mechs (no melting), are not going to self-KO trying to hurt him. So decide whether you want to delete powers or add weaknesses, and work on the body temperature. Tyrantis will weigh in later as well.
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    Here's my suggestions (sorry if I came off a little strong. I was going more for constructive criticism than an attack):

    Arana:
    -Tone down her venom muchly. You can keep the reaction times you originally planned if you make it nonlethal. Instead it could cause aches and pains, like bad arthritis. You could also make it so she has to bite several times to give a lethal dose to a kaiju: I'm thinking three or four for a kaiju her size. After the fourth bite it would take 10 to 15 minutes, depending on the kaiju's size, to be lethal.
    -To balance out the decrease of her venom's power, make her body a bit more durable for taking other kaiju's hits. She can still be physically weak, but I'm thinking she should be able to last at least as long as Showa Kamacuras.

    Nusuku:
    -Tone down the fire body a bit. The way you've described it, he sounds like nothing can touch him without being incinerated to the point where it can't do much damage. This means any tooth and claw kaiju is useless against him, and since we don't have a lot of beam spammers (which I'm thankful for, since I'm not very fond of them), that makes him a bit too strong. Make it so his fire only scorches things as larges as other kaiju as opposed to incinerating them, so it would be similar to one kaiju fighting another that just happens to be on fire. The fire body would still work as a defensive weapon, as every beast that attacks it physically would also get hurt in the process, but this way it's not an uber strong defensive weapon.
    -Add some real weaknesses that every kaiju could exploit. The Azumie Royal Family, ice, water, acid, and ariel attacks are all situational weaknesses. For them to be exploited, a kaiju would pretty much have to be made to defeat your monster, or just in a very helpful arena. The "hot temper" isn't a strong weakness by itself, either, since a monster with no other exploitable weaknesses is practically invincible and can afford to make the rash actions caused by a flaring temper (plus he gets hotter when he gets mad, so it's actually more of a strength). I would look at some of the other member's strengths and weaknesses sections to get an idea for how to write this category and then apply the same ideas to your own kaiju.
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    Let me give a suggestion for the fiery body thing. Think of it as Burning Godzilla: a kaiju that attacks one of the glowing red spots (in this case, I'm assuming, most of this creature's body) would get a burn, but could still do something.
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    sorry, I've been a bit busy lately. I'll have Nusuku and Arana straightened out sometime tomorrow.

    Just a few things, first I just want to make sure everyones on the same table and I didint go into detail before. with El Arana's poison the times I put down will be the exact amount of time needed for El Arana to pump in a leathel amount. if the process is interrupted for any reason the poison will not kill the kaiju.

    as far as nusuku is concernd , I'll just add an addenddum that states he can not melt mechas or destroy other monsters by simply touching them.

    oh, and just out of curiosity if I delete the two attacks would you still want another weakness, otherwise I'll just see what I can come up with tonight I think I have an idea but I just need to flesh it out.

    alright sorry I cant go into more detail right now but I'll try to be on later and fix things.

    thanks.
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