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    Who'll win?
    Shrake (Zardac) 0 (0%)
    Oroborus (Kiryu) 4 (80%)
    Abstain 1 (20%)
    Total Votes: 5
    1. Shrake (Zardac) vs. Oroborus (Kiryu)
    Topic Started: Nov 13 2011, 12:05 AM (400 Views)
    EternalMothra
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    Battle 1:

    Shrake (Zardac)

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    Arena: Mumbai, India (Night)

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    KaijuCanuck
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    Well I just don't know. Oroborus's low speed means it will be impossible for him to avoid ramming attacks from Shrake, not to mention onslaughts from her swarm, but on paper Oroborus is definitely the more powerful kaiju.

    We should also not forget that this is one battle where the location might be key. We're in Mumbai, India so... huh. It seems there is no information on Shrake's alignment in Asia. Its closer to the Middle East, so might we assume good? That would mean that any of Orborus's attacks are only half as powerful as they should be.
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    Kiryu
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    Actually only one attack would be half as powerful. The damage chart I put in is only to gauge the power of Spirit Blast.

    Anyway, my analysis: Oroborus again dwarfs his opponent, which would mean he'd have to be stung a significant number of times for the poison to affect his entire body.

    Even if Shrake tries sneak attacks from the dust cloud, she risks being seen and getting hit by Flash Beam. Unfortunately at the time of my post, my browser is being screwy so I can't see Shrake's stat chart, but from her profile, it doesn't seem like she can take very many hits.

    Since I really couldn't focus on her round 1 fight, I'm curious as to what her swarms actually DO. Can they inject venom as well? And if so, how potent is it?
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    EternalMothra
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    This is going to be a tough one. I'm agreeing with Kiryu in the idea that Oroborus will have to take multiple stings before he's down, but I'm noticing that Shrake's intelligence and agility are in her favor. She's going to have to watch out for Oroborus' spirit blast because I can see that being potentially devastating.

    Question Zardac, since Shrake is a guardian kaiju would that make her a benevolent kaiju like Mothra? If that's the case then the spirit blast would have less damage on her.

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    Queen Bee
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    Even though Oroborus is the stronger of the two from what I've studied, speed and agility often make up for the stronger foe. He would be less likely to land his attacks, and even if it requires more blows from his opponent, Shrake in this case, it can make the difference. Also with Shrake's intelligence, she should be able to think and plan her attack much more systematically then a more "animalistic" kaiju...
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    The thing I'd like to mention on that is, I did Oroborus a massive injustice by not capping his intelligence. This is my first tournament, so I'm not sure where the meter is in terms of 'truly intelligent' and 'animalistic'. I even told EM flat out in round one I realized I did the chart wrong. If it helps at all, Oroborus is the smartest kaiju by far in my Kaimordius universe, he just suffers in the tournament because now that I have his real profile all laid out, he's massively nerfed to even compete, and the stat chart is just screwed up.
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    from just a quick glance I'm seeing that both monsters have some major advantages and disadvantages against each other. I'm thinking once shrake's alignment is settled it might help make up my descion but right now Oroborus mass looks a little more intimidating then Shrake's speed but I'll have to analyse them better when I have more time.
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    LordNidhogg
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    This is an interesting one. Shrake has the speed, agility, and intelligence to win, but Oroborus as the endurance to weather a lot of attacks and then dish it out. Right now I'm tenuously leaning towards Shrake. I think that the swarm will be a huge help: even if they don't have the power to hurt Oroborus that badly, they can still keep him busy while Shrake dos her work. Plus, can you imagine Shrake's acid in your eyes? That would really keep Oroborus from fighting back effectively.

    However, if Oroborus can get his stronger attacks to land, he could take it fairly easily. The problem would be actually hitting Shrake. So right now it's a tossup for me, though I'm very slightly leaning towards Shrake.

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    If it helps at all, Oroborus is the smartest kaiju by far in my Kaimordius universe, he just suffers in the tournament because now that I have his real profile all laid out, he's massively nerfed to even compete, and the stat chart is just screwed up.
    Dude, I totally understand. I have kaiju so powerful that I don't think I could nerf them enough to compete in the tournament, which is why I usually create a new kaiju from scratch just for the tournament. Screwing up the chart or profile sucks, too. I left out an important part of Riott's abilities, but I'm not sure if it would ethical to change it. Don't worry too much though. Yes, it's not fun, but it's a learning experience and you can really find out what you need to change and how to phrase things for the next time. And for the record, I think you did a good job. Some dissatisfaction is natural, but you don't have anything to really be disappointed in, imo.
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    Kiryu
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    I'm not sure if this has been discussed, but seeing as all Shrake hides in is a dust cloud, couldn't Oroborus fire something into it and scatter it, if only for a few seconds to see Shrake? He's certainly smart enough to consider it, and it would most likely throw Shrake for a loop, and possibly cause her to fly higher than 100 meters and expose herself to his assault.
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    Eh I don't know. Shrake is powerful yes but if Oroborus gets in a hit with one of his more powerful beams, I could see that being pretty devastating. Especially the Crystal ray. Speed is a great thing don't get me wrong, but it can't ALWAYS protect you. That's the thing.

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    Nov 15 2011, 12:24 PM
    I'm not sure if this has been discussed, but seeing as all Shrake hides in is a dust cloud, couldn't Oroborus fire something into it and scatter it, if only for a few seconds to see Shrake? He's certainly smart enough to consider it, and it would most likely throw Shrake for a loop, and possibly cause her to fly higher than 100 meters and expose herself to his assault.
    I don't think it's a question of Oroborus considering it, it's actually doing it. None of his weapons would scatter the dust cloud: his freeze ray is great but has little concussive impact; his flash beam might punch little holes in the cloud, but wouldn't scatter it completely because it's neither huge nor explosive; and his spirit blast literally does no physical damage. So...how's he going to scatter the dust cloud at all? He's not like Mothra, who could do it just by flapping her wings. He's not even like Godzilla, who could at least banish it temporarily with a nuclear pulse. So I don't see it happening, really.

    I would say his best bet, should Shrake whip a dust cloud up, is to fly above the cloud and, if you'll allow me a geeky turn of phrase, nuke the site from orbit with blast after blast until he hits something or she leaves the cloud and he has a target again.
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    Well that's what I was getting at. Dust clouds can generally be scattered by waving something through them, so by that logic, this one would be no different. He also wouldn't be averse to flying into it himself. I don't know. I guess the more pressing issue here is:

    WHERE IS ZARDAC?
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    Nov 17 2011, 10:01 PM
    Well that's what I was getting at. Dust clouds can generally be scattered by waving something through them, so by that logic, this one would be no different. He also wouldn't be averse to flying into it himself. I don't know. I guess the more pressing issue here is:

    WHERE IS ZARDAC?
    I was about ready to ask the same thing. O_o

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    Well, I'm voting Oroborus. He has the power to beat Shrake even if a few attacks miss, and since Zardac was never here to clarify what does what...yeah.
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    Has Zardac still not appeared?

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    I don't think I've seen him in the active users list for the entire round.
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    I really like Shrake but I think Oroborus is the stronger of the two in this round, so voting Oroborus..
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    Um...hi?

    Life got REAL hectic there for a while, and seems like it may be for another few weeks.

    Still...now that I'm not needed, I have some time. Figures.



    All my kaiju are guardians, it seems, with the exception of one "unrealeased" terror. However, they're all territorial. I believe Mumbai is in South East Asia. If that is true, Shrake is way out of her territory, but not in territory she's hostile to. I'd consider her neutral here.


    Edit: After looking over the two kaiju, I have some initial observations.

    This match is Sonic the Hedgehog against Dr. Wily. Oroborus has the raw firepower to win, but he's not going anywhere that Shrake can't get him.

    The Specter has three beams here that can seriously ruin Shrake's day, but it's a question of whether she'll get hit or not.

    3. Spirit Blast. Sounds like a Fatality. Or Perhaps a Heroic Brutality. Whatever. Probably won't be used until and unless Shrake is already beaten. Nevertheless, I would like to know a) where the fireball comes from b) how fast it fires, c) how fast it moves, and d) how fast can Big O get the part of his body that shoots the fireball to the area of his body Shrake is burning.

    2. Ice Beam. Shrake would not like this, but I ask the same questions. This sounds like it would be the slowest of the beams, but I want to know the relevant data.

    1. Flash Fried Critter Beams of Doom and Stuff. These sound like the most likely to actually hit, but again, where do the beams come from, how quickly can the slow flying snake turn his body about? That sort of stuff.


    On the whole, I think Shrake has a very good shot, but much like infiltrators, if you can catch her, you can kill her. I just happen to think that she's good enough to pull out the win.

    Still, as a monster creator, I find it my duty to argue for my monsters in all situations and abstain from all votes including them.
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    Spirit Blast follows its target. I forgot to clarify until just now. Since it doesn't do any physical damage, it has to more or less be a guaranteed hit. Since Shrake is neutral here, I'd say it probably does its normal damage (100% power). So not too much but painful.

    Crystal Freeze Ray is a stream attack, and is relatively slow.

    Flash Beam is just plain impossible to avoid; if you see it, you're already hit. Shrake literally has a fraction of a second to move out of its way.

    All of them are fired from his mouth. He can move his body relatively quickly; that's mostly me screwing up on the stat chart. :-/
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    Spirit Blast follows its target. I forgot to clarify until just now. Since it doesn't do any physical damage, it has to more or less be a guaranteed hit. Since Shrake is neutral here, I'd say it probably does its normal damage (100% power). So not too much but painful.

    Crystal Freeze Ray is a stream attack, and is relatively slow.

    Flash Beam is just plain impossible to avoid; if you see it, you're already hit. Shrake literally has a fraction of a second to move out of its way.

    All of them are fired from his mouth. He can move his body relatively quickly; that's mostly me screwing up on the stat chart. :-/
    Spirit Blast: It sounded like it literally ripped a monster's spirit apart. One hit, one kill. How much to kill a critter?


    Freeze Ray: About what I figgured. Probably not too dangerous.


    Flash Beam: Again, about what I figgured. I'm thinking more along the lines of Shrake knows not to let a big flying snake get its mouth close to her. If she sees the head moving towards her, she's going to get out of the way. She also knows that some enemies have weapons that can shoot from their mouths, so she's going to make sure that Big O's mouth can't line up with her, either. When she sees that all of his weapons are in his mouth, she's going to attack the back of his neck where it can't get to her.
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    Nope; Spirit Blast is dependent on the strength of the soul. For example, against Mothra, it's going to make her wince a little since it's still doing damage, albeit 50% of its power. Against Shrake, it'll hurt; she'll be handicapped at that point, but it won't outright kill her.

    Basically, if Spirit Blast hits with 900% of its power and above, it is a one-shot. Nothing can survive that much pressure on the soul. And I made sure no kaiju he ever faces in FFKT will be of the same caliber as his main opponents, Yama and Mortium.

    Between 600 and 800%, his opponent is put at a severe disadvantage.

    Hard to explain any further since it's a separate realm of damage here, and most of this I'm making up as I go because I really am completely unsure how it works in a tournament setting. :-/
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