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| Deleted User | 04/09/2011 - 11:00 am Post #31 |
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Silent for a few seconds after Fujiko’s outburst, Motohisa turned to Hirotada and calmly begun “Honourable Daimyo, in the heat of the moment she seems to have gotten a few things wrong. First, she claims I do not care for the people, and that is preposterous. Would I be attempting to lower the taxes or give money to farmers to improve their farms if I cared not for the people? Not all of the rice will end up going into our coffers; some of it will be insured that the farmers end up distributing it for lower prices to common families rather than just merchants like myself. I do also have plans to expand the internal trade using the rice too, but I will be carful to make sure there will still be plenty left at affordable prices for the less wealthy people in our clan. She also claims we would otherwise give them nothing, we give them protection and we give them decent lives, we have reasonable taxes unlike other clans, who have them at high levels. She is also claiming, Honourable Daimyo, that you must of given them nothing until she came into power. She is insulting you, you who have destroyed many great clans with little help. You, who your people worship and adore. Despite this, she then claims that you had done nothing until the assembly came about. Furthermore, she seems to care little for the chain of command, and prioritises another over all of us. This could show a lack of loyalty to you, and I would be carful and keep a suspicious eye on her. I however am eternally indebted to you due to your actions helping save my family fortune. You may not remember, but many years ago when I was young you offered aid to farms that had been raided by other clans that my family used get our crops to sell them in market. Without you and your generosity, I would be ruined, and I will never forget that. I also hope to show your generosity to others, and improve their lives like you did for mine. However, do not allow common, often unknowledgeable people to effect politics. They do not know what they want, and it is up to us wiser people to show them what they want. My family never complained about any choice in the subject of politics, nor my family’s friends. I see no reason anyone else should complain, provided they are safe, which we shall ensure they are. Also, I have not insulted her. All I did is try to have a reasonable debate for the better of the clan and she took it too far. Also, when I used the term rabble I did not mean all of our people, only what happens inside that assembly. My Honourable, glorious and fair Daimyo I hope you consider what I have said and take action against her rudeness and keep an eye on her, she could prove a danger to us all. If we allow it to carry on too long it could lead to a rebellion, as people will eventually believe they somehow know better than our wise Daimyo. However, if we take action while it is not too late, our Strong and Mighty Daimyo could stop anything from happening and preserve the happiness of the people, and likely increase it as they will need not worry about issues such as this.” After finally finish speaking, Motohisa allows the chance for others to speak, throughout all of talking to the Daimyo, Motohisa’s face had remained expressionless. Motohisa was improving, he supressed a smile before it even got a chance to show itself. Perfect. |
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04/09/2011 - 12:11 pm Post #32 |
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Hirotada waited for Motohisa to stop speaking. Once the hall fell silent he began speaking in a stern voice. "Motohisa-san I must give you some words of advice and urge you to go away and think about what I have said. Firstly, I do not appreciate you referring to my people as rabble, it shows disrespect and I find that an ugly trait in one of my officers as you are a representative of my noble family. You may not have meant it to be so, but if others hear you speaking like this, you will lose favour and I cannot allow someone to work in my office if the 'rabble' are baying for your blood. I also do not appreciate the way you are speaking about a fellow officer. I am in charge here, I am not a fool and I do not need people instructing me to keep an eye on anyone. Fujiko-san's clan assembly is well within her role of office as someone who is responsible for ensuring my people are listened to, in fact I welcome such an assembly. I am also confident that Fujiko-san is more than capable of selecting only the most realistic and beneficial suggestions by the people. If no suggetions exist, I am sure Fujiko-san would not just elect a choice for the sake of it. My people deserve the right to have their voices heard, it is not for us to dictate to them how we rule over them, but to work with them for a more properous future. I also must remind you that this matter is for Fujiko-san to handle, it is not for you to criticise such an assembly nor cristicise how any of my officers carry out their role, it is for me to decide if it they are doing something which I think is detrimental to the clan and me alone. I must also try to enlighten you to your own role. You are responsible for the treasury in addition to building work. Again take heed of my advice for it may spare any more such incidents in here in the future. It sounds to me like you are managing the treasury to suit your own objective, that you are restricting other officer's budgets to allow for more construction work to be carried out. Taking such a monopoly on things is bound to get people's backs up for they will become frustrated if their plans are constantly hindered because you deem it unfit for them to be given the funds because you want to build, build, build. People may start to think you wield too much power. I know you are trying to balance the funds and keep us afloat and it is an important job, but you must learn to comprimise. If for a year or two construction must be slowed because we need to build ships or because Yusei-san wants to recruit some Samurai or Mokudo-san see fit to recruit a batch of Metsuke then so be it. If a comprimise cannot be reached then I will take the decision out of everyone's hands and decide what is best. If I have to do that too often, then someone, somewhere is going wrong. This sacred hall is not a place where my officers attempt to point score. It is where discussions take place to move our clan forwards. Debates are going to happen that is for certain but I will not sit here whilst insults are thrown around. Any concerns about fellow officers should be brought to my attention elsewhere, I do not want a repeat of this incident in this hall." The Daimyo sat back in his throne as he had started to lean forward towards the end of his speech. Motohisa sat in silence. Hirotoda took a sip of water from a cup on a small table next to him and then continued. "Now to settle this debate. The people have spoken and want to see more ships and thus that is what they will get. Motohisa-san despite your obvious unhappiness about this I am instructing you to factor in this request into your plan. I do not see a major issue with the recruitment of a small naval fleet that we can utilise. You will speak with Yuesi-san to arrange how much he can spend on recruitment for them and then it is up to him what he does with them, whether it be blockading ports, raiding trade routes or merely defending our waters from our enemies." Hirotada let out a sigh and scratched his head. "Now go and think about what I have said, I need a moment alone, I have heard enough for today." With that he closed his eyes and heard the sound of shuffling on the floor, and then soft padded footsteps as Motohisa left the hall. |
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| Deleted User | 04/09/2011 - 01:15 pm Post #33 |
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Yusei had sat in the Hall the entire day reading reports and listening to the other officers as they talked and debated. He had a long week, of course losing his eye doesn't give him the greatest comfort either. This little outburst between Motohisa-sama and Fujiko-sama was just the comic relief Yusei had been waiting for to ease his pain. He couldn't help being amused at the fact it could've been Yusei the Head Priestess could be yelling at if he said anything. Taking a relaxed breath, Yusei ended his thoughts for the day. "Well my lord, quite the day has it been. I believe I was going to start some discussion off of the proposition trying to reach a compromise, but it seems these two drastically changed the atmosphere in the room. It would best be that I hold my thoughts until the morning as to not bring anything important up, whilst missing two officers." Yusei was too tired to care about hiding his bandages anymore and he could care less if the Daimyo saw or inquired about the bandages. It wasn't so important after the events of today's meeting. "Mokudo-sama, I sincerely tell you that right now it is impossible to recruit Kisho ninja because we do not have the necessary buildings for them. As well as the upkeep is a bit too high for us at the moment. I promise you that there will be kisho ninja recruited, don't think otherwise." Turning to the daimyo, Yusei began again,"My lord, I have received your orders for an interrogation of an Uesugi trespasser and equping a young man willing to take arms up for the Tokugawa cause. Rest assured they are not forgotten and I will get to them before we leave to carry out our year's plans. I will begin gathering intel on this man before the interrogation and work with a local blacksmith to begin mass producing personal equipment for me. I am also acquiring some land to build a dojo/meeting hall for any advisors or members of a special group I am in the middle of forming. If you hear news of any new recruits coming up to you, I advise sending them my way so that they receive proper training and equipment for the way of a warrior." With that Yusei bowed to the daimyo and walked out to take a rest, having litte comfort in the Hall today. |
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| Deleted User | 05/09/2011 - 07:11 pm Post #34 |
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Mokudo tries to hide the amused smirk that is plastered on his face, but is only half successful. A good scrap now and again is good for the soul, especially if it is between high ranking officials like the people in this hall. He takes a sip of his sake, and winks at Yusei, seeing that the man was also amused at the situation. In an apparent attempt to cover up their little exchange, Yusei assures Mokudo that Kisho would be recruited eventually. "Of course noble friend, I do not doubt your word, or your ability to gauge what is economically feasible and what is not. I will be patient." He bows his head respectfully as Yusei gets up to leave, and then struggles painfully to his feet as well. "My Lord, fellow officers, I must beg my leave; I fear the sake has gotten the better of me, and my physician will complain that I might fall and injure my leg further. I bid you all good day." With that, he bows and makes his way out, a sway now in his step in addition to his usual heavy limp. |
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| Naughty_Ranko | 09/09/2011 - 09:31 pm Post #35 |
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Fujiko had been waiting for a while now. Even though time was short this season, none of the other officers seemed willing to give their thoughts on what they were going to do for their orders. Finally fed up with the silence, she began to speak. "We don't have much time here, so I'm not gonna beat around the bush. First up is the Hattori issue. I've said at the beginning of my term that I would keep the southern border safe for at least 2 years and so I did. Now that Neneme-himesama has married into their clan, we're probably looking at another 2 years of peace. The question I need answered, gentlemen, is for how much longer we need to keep up this charade. The alliance could be kept up longer, but it's getting past the point where it's useful to us soon. Personally I'm not inclined to throw Fumiko-sama to the wolves as well. But I need to know your long-term plans now, Sword Master. How long do you need to finish off the Date? What is your plan of action to wipe that clan out? Also will another two years be enough to get ready for war with the Hattori? We've got Mochimori-sama in position. How long will it be before Ieyasu-sama's army is ready? Will 2 years be enough?" She turned to the daimyo. "That's also for you to consider, Hirotada-sama. We're not gonna declare war on the Hattori ourselves. They'll do that on their own soon enough. The question is, when do we allow the alliance to fall apart? I don't presume that any of us is under the illusion that we'll keep up the neighbourly act with them forever. We can't strike out further south without fear that they'll stab us in the back. We need to take Kyoto sooner or later and can't allow them to capture it." Fujiko was now addressing everyone again. "Moving on to the Ikko-Ikki. While I'm pleased that they've made headway, I'm afraid they were a little too brash in their advance. The Yamana will retaliate. We should consider sending them help to at least secure Echizen. I understand that you've recruited some troops in Kaga to do just that Yusei-sama. Might I also suggest, Mokudo-sama, to send the ninja from Mikawa into Hattori and Yamana lands. He's not serving any real purpose right now other than protecting Ieyasu from a non-existent threat. He already has a metsuke. Would it not be better to send the ninja on a recon mission then? Right now we're blind to what's really happening in the south and that makes it hard for me to adequately judge the situation." Fujiko shifted again, this time only looking at Yusei. "There's one more reason as to why I want to hear your plan for the Date war. We have a possible candidate for vassal up there. Miyagi could be liberated and a Hatekayama government installed. It would give you the benefit of conducting the campaign faster. Your army wouldn't have to pause to make repairs and bring public order to the region. You could march straight on to the neighbouring province of Uzen and take along another fresh unit provided by our new vassals, instead of having to leave some behind." With that the Head Priestess finished laying out her immediate concerns and waited for the other officers to speak. |
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10/09/2011 - 02:19 am Post #36 |
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The Daimyo sighed, he was tired after just returning from the battlefield after finally managing to eliminate the Uesugi rebels that had given him the runaround for several seasons. He pressed his fingertips together, contemplating what the Head Priestess had just said. "Indeed you are right Fujiko-san, time is rather short this season for our planning and preparation and thus I would hope that our other good officers find their voices sooner rather then later. As for the situation with the Hattori. They have been our allies for so long now but it is clear that the time for that alliance is soon to be up. I will say this, I am not willing to donate any more money and losing one daughter to them was one too many, so I have no plans to make that two. Which means that our relations will dwindle and no doubt they will eventually declare war on us. I think that may happen in the next 3 - 5 years. Our empire is such that even if the Date are not totally eradicated by this time, they will be at least weakened enough that they will no longer cause us any major concern and so facing a war on two fronts will not be a problem. So to all the rest of the officers, you better get scratching your heads and make the necessary preparations because a war with the Hattori is approaching." Hirotada then sat back in his throne, awaiting the other officers to voice their opinions. Edited by damo2986, 10/09/2011 - 02:24 am.
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| Deleted User | 10/09/2011 - 02:46 am Post #37 |
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The Sword Master waited for the daimyo to end his talks and soon began his own,"Fujiko-Sama, you have done well to hold together relationships with the Hattori this long. I would like to say that preparations are complete and thus, we shall use these two years to build up Tokugawa Ieyasu-Sama's army. It will be Ieyasu and Mochimori who will lead the charge on the Hattori and hopefully the Shogun, should we progress that far." He began to adress everyone about the Date,"The Date war has changed slightly, after losing two isolated provinces. The Date have a large army that could beat our Daimyo's because of those Samurai units. This is why we will be somewhat delayed until Matsudaira Mochikata can reach our lord's army." He turned to the daimyo,"My lord, it seems as if you now must lead the main army into Date lands, I will say that it is more dangerous and it risks your life, but I believe in you lord and such thoughts will not be said. Will you take up your sword against the main Date homeland and exile them to their small gold island which our navy has cut off." Yusei turned back towards Fujiko-Sama,"Fujiko-Sama, making the Hatekayama is a wierd move so to speak. For starters, we don't need a vassal up in Date lands, as they will be far away from any action and could betray eventually. For short term goals it seems like a great idea, but unless you tell me your plans for the long run, I will not consider making the Hatakayama our vassal's." "You are also right in your assumption of the troops in Kaga. Yes, they were recruited to help the Ikko-Ikki stay afloat, it may not be much, but the Yamana are at the breaking point. Any counterattack will be weak enough for the small majority of troops there will be sufficient enought to sustain the Ikko-Ikki." Taking a brisk breath and sipping some sake, Yusei turned to Motohisa-sama,"Now in turns of building work for the Date land, I can say that you can have free reign over those buidings, as I seek no military recruitment from that area which is safe from any threat." He paused taking a quick break smirking at Motohisa-Sama,"However, I expect the majority of Hattori lands in the future to become military building as to strengthen the area around Kyoto. I hope you can all agree with that. I am saying most, but not all. Maybe two or three provinces in the area to military." Turning to Mokudo-Sama,"Mokudo-Sama, I think you will be happy to know your Kisho Ninja will be recruited this year and will be sent and first used with Tokugawa Ieyasu, our heir. You should be proud for your efforts have succeeded and your men should be proud." Finishing his talk Yusei went back to writing his notes. |
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10/09/2011 - 03:55 am Post #38 |
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Hirotada perked up a little upon hearing Yusei's request. "I will gladly lead our men into the battle with the Date. I have seen off the Uesugi, the Date will be no different. Before I leave to deal a deadly blow to our enemy I have a request of my own to make and it considers what I want to see in my army." Hirotada looked up as if trying to visualise his fantasy. "My army should be the envy not only of the Tokugawa, but of the whole of Japan and so it shall be. Before I set off to wage war with the Date I want to see the following troops within my ranks: Yari Cavalry, Katana Samurai, Naginata and Kisho Ninja with the rest of the army made up as you deem fit. I will also leave it for you all to work out how many of each is feasible in terms of recruitment and cost but I do expect to see those troops at Fukushima as quickly as possible. Once those troops are ready and in my number I will command our men to victory." Edited by damo2986, 10/09/2011 - 03:57 am.
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| Deleted User | 10/09/2011 - 04:05 am Post #39 |
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Yusei was quite intrigued by the Daimyo's request. A little bit interesting actually. He bowed in respect and responded. "Of course my lord, your will overules all. The necessary preparations will be made at once, you will be quite interested in the army I will make for you. I tell you that you will not be disappointed." |
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| Naughty_Ranko | 10/09/2011 - 04:57 am Post #40 |
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Fujiko let everything that had been said sink in and then addressed first of course the daimyo. "I'm glad, you agree, my lord. It's not my intention to question your judgement, but with all due respect 3 - 5 years until war with the Hattori seems a little optimistic. It's our duty to be prepared for all eventualities and personally I think that 2 - 3 years is closer to the mark. It would be best to prepare for the worst-case-scenario and have time to spare rather than to get a nasty surprise. That's why I urge everyone to be ready in 2 years." She then turned to Yusei. "Speaking of surprises, Kensei-sama. I'm afraid that you might be underestimating the Yamana just a bit. They do have the capability to launch a full-stack army against our vassals. Holding their own against the Hattori like they have done so far is quite a feat for such a small clan. They are dead-locked right now and I fear that our vassals might be crushed between the two of them. The problem here is getting good intelligence out of the war zone and that's exactly why I've asked the Shinobi Elder to send an agent down there. It's hard to make a judgement call, one that could potentially spell the Ikko-Ikki's doom, when you're fumbling in the dark. My opinion is that the few units in Kaga might not be enough, if the Yamana get serious. Now about the north. Making the Hatekayama our vassal is my long term plan. Have you seen how much our administration costs? At a certain point it's better to allow people to take care of their own business themselves, especially so far from the center of power, namely Mikawa. Even the honourable Tatami Master should be happy about that. He'll get income in the form of tribute and trade without any deductions or need to invest in the settlement. The Hatekayama look favourably on us and would be on very friendly terms because of our history. (In contrast making the Mogami in Uzen vassals would be very bad because of past grievances.) You have just commended me on keeping friendly relations with the Hattori for so long. I can keep a small clan of fishers in line, I assure you. I don't intend to make the Hatekayama vassals to be cannon fodder. I want them to be vassals to the future Shogun, Tokugawa Hirotada-sama, and beyond." |
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| Deleted User | 10/09/2011 - 08:48 am Post #41 |
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Slightly more pale than normal, Motohisa had carefully studied the discussion that had been going on. Noticing a brief silence, Motohisa began to speak “When it comes to the point about our potential vassal I can make lots of money no matter the outcome, due to the fertile soil or due to the expanding trade. So I shall leave other officers to debate over our political situation. However, over all the trade will provide more income from making them our vassal, even once we take into account we will need to give them back some of their tribute they give to us, to show their masters are fair and understand their needs. However, we will need to be very careful about them turning on us, as they would be at our most unprotected land should they rebel. When it comes to the military spending, the army is expensive but we should be able to handle it due to our rapid economic growth that has taken place as a result of measures I have put in place. Even after recruiting hundreds of samurai, our overall income will still be higher in a year’s time. If it appears our profit does not rise much, it is due to large amounts of recruiting. Also, Fujiko-sama please be careful how you talk towards Yusei-sama as your attitude seems to be slightly rude. We are all equals here and adept at our own offices, so let’s try to discuss things in a more civil terms this time. Also, Yusei-sama you will have access to large amounts of funding for our military if you need it as our money if useless unless we spend it. However, I would appreciate knowing approximately how much you would like to spend to assist me in making future plans.” Having said all he needed to say, Motohisa stopped talking and silently began formulating new plans, while waiting for the others to speak. |
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Hirotada arrived at the main gates of Mikawa, thankfully his journey from Fukushima was uneventful. He swung himself off of his horse, his boots making a dull thud as they hit the dry dusty ground. The journey had been tense; Hirotada normally jovial and optimistic about his return home would laugh and joke with his guards on his trip, however this journey was undertaken in complete silence. He thrust his Katana and outer garment into the arms of the the nearest guard who had to juggle the items to prevent them falling the the ground. Without word Hirotada set off up the steps towards the castle, two at time, not making a single mis-step. As he reached the main doors, he pushed them open with all of his might. The doors crashed as they collided with the walls behind them startling several people milling about in the entrance hallway. Hirotada did not wait to be greeted but merely continued on his way, striding down the corridor towards the hall. The guards stood to attention when they saw the Daimyo bounding up the corridor but he did not acknowledge them. They just about managed to open the fusama before Hirotada reached the threshold, he made his way inside. He leered at his officers who were sat waiting to appraise the seasons events. The looked at each other in the tense silence. Hirotada continued to his throne and sat down with such force that it creaked and groaned under the stress. "WHAT IS GOING ON IN HERE!" The Daimyo's face was red. "Do you merely walk around town using your position as a showpiece? I hired you to do a high profile job, one which some would kill their own mother for, yet as of late it seems some of you have taken to other pursuits, falconry, fishing, god only knows what. Before I go over the details of why I am so angry right now, let me just reiterate a couple of things. Firstly, I have built the Tokugawa clan to what it is today on blood, sweat and tears. My own son was traded as a pawn to enable this clan to thrive. I would give my life if I thought it would be beneficial for my people's future. Needless to say, under no circumstances would I allow anybody to drag this clan down, be it intentional or not. So leading on from that, the very least I expect from you all is to work to the best of your abilities and give your all to enable this clan to thrive." Hirotada took a breather for a moment. Then he continued, his voice still contained signs of anger of which he directed towars the Kensei. "I find it hard to believe that in such tumultuous times that a few basic recruitment orders and troop movements are all that were to be carried out this season." Hirotada shot Yuesei a fierce look. He dared not look the Daimyo in the face. "If I didn't make myself clear already, I will do so now. I want the Date dispatched of QUICKLY!" The Hattori relationship is fading, we have stated they will no doubt be at war with us soon, so the Date must fall swiftly enabling us to focus our efforts on the Hattori. I cannot believe a few troops movements towards Fukushima, albeit they were as per my orders, were all that you could come up with this season. Why was Motchikata left sunning himself in Hitatchi? Surely he could have been put to good use against the Date and if not intended to go up there, then he could be already halfway to the Hattori border. Maybe you had something else in mind for him, however I am not a mind reader. You may have some intricate grand plan in you head but unless you speak of it during our sessions, nobody is any the wiser and that is no good. I need to know what you plan not only short term, but long term also. This will allow me to make any necessary decisions should an unexpected incident happen in the future. If I know what you ultimately plan with your troops, I can at least sanction urgent decisions that will follow your goal as closely as possible. If not I will make decisions that are seen as rash or completely detrimental to what you may have had planned in the future. Due to your lack of any specific plans for the Date war, I sanctioned a Metsuke to bribe the main Date force costing us a significant amount of Koku. Could this have been avoided with better military planning, most probably. I was left facing a samurai army heading towards my location and I felt it would be best to bribe them and turn them against their own. A costly move, but I now have a former Date army close to two of their provinces and capturing them will cost us the lives of no true Tokugawa soldiers. Not to mention there is now next to no risk of me suffering any ill fate at the hands of an army with decent training. Furthermore, they can act as cannon fodder, softening up the Date, perhaps even eliminating them from the mainland whilst my elite army focusses on their leaders, holed up like cowards on an island." Hirotada's voice finally began to soften slightly. "No doubt you all will have things to say regarding the decision I made, but it is done now and we must live with the consequences. I now move onto you Mokudo. You mention resignation if we go to war with the Hattori. Are you mad? Let me tell you this, a war with the Hattori was always inevitable. From the very first day that I rose up against the Imagawa, I knew that the Hattori would eventually stand between me and Kyoto. So it should not be a surprise that we are now close to that moment. So I say this to you, if you still plan to resign when the war with the Hattori starts, you may as well resign now. I want officers here that have long term goals in mind. Now is the time to choose your alliegence. Be warned, if you resign, I can't let you just walk out of here alive now that you have made your affection for the Hattori known. You know too much of our tactics." Hirotada sat back finally after ranting for some time. His last comments to his Shinobi Elder did not even faze him. Informing one of his own officers that he would have him killed should he resign exacted no more emotion than if he was merely commenting on the weather. "I finish by saying this. We are all individuals but we must work as a unit to gain success. Times are tough and bound to get tougher. Fragmentation will get us nowhere. I want everyone to think about what their long term goals are and if they are not immediately obvious to others, make them known. I want no more suprises when I come to overviewing our future seasons outcomes." For the first time since returning to Mikawa, a smirk crossed the Daimyo's face. He turned to his Tatami Master, "Oh yes, and Motohisa, no doubt you were wincing when your precious Koku went up in smoke. I expect you have some rethinking to do!" Edited by damo2986, 14/09/2011 - 02:13 pm.
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| Deleted User | 14/09/2011 - 05:12 pm Post #43 |
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Yusei had thought over what the Daimyo had said. He was face showed no emotion, but deep down he was smirking. In fact he was quite amused. My lord Tokugawa Hirotada, you are a fool, you seek to underestimate my strategy and tactics, completely twisting my orders in such events did not transpire according to plan. You are my lord, that much is true, but do not underestimate me, for I am the only one who can lead you to victory. As Yusei finished his thought, still sitting there with his face dropped down, he began to speak,"My lord, your orders were specific, you would not move until you have your said required army. I have followed these orders. Why was Mochikata sitting in Hitachi, because he was not needed at the Date front. I have plans for him and will reveal them soon, but now I must explain and defend myself." "You wish for the Date to be swifty finished off, well my lord, you have ensured their exile to Sado. My hopes were for that army to leave the security of the main Date road. However, I did not expect such espionage to take out the army. You have done more than I have wanted. With this army, we can quickly start crushing any Date resistance. My lord you can then march on Date lands unopposed." "I fear that the Yamana situation did not go according to plan. You see I had expected them to change course towards the Hattori, but never would I expect for them to turn to us. Could it be we provoked them with the ninja, or sending troops to Kaga. We had fallen for their trap my lord. It is exactly why I took no action towards the Yamana. It was quite obvious to me what they were planning. I know my lord had his heart in the right place, but unnecessary troops were brought somewhere they weren't needed." He began to take a long breath, sipping some sake afterwards,"On the other hand, sending spare troops from Mikawa was indeed the right move as we are in position to strike at them from Owari, exactly why Mochimori was there. This Yamana outburst is only a minor setback my lord, do not take offence to your emergency orders, in such times drastic measures must be taken, whether they clash with the officer's orders or not." He began to speak towards everyone,"You all seem worried as to if I have a long term plan, even you my lord doubt this. I ask you do not underestimate me, from the moment I came here I was underestimated. You see my long term plan is to take Kyoto and surrounding lands in one whole year! Unfortunately, the Yamana situation pushes us back, but nonetheless we shall hold at least most of surrounding Kyoto within a year if I can plan every move carefully." Turning slightly towards Fujiko and Mokudo,"In fact, I am planning to make the first move on the Hattori. They were simply tools to us, tools in absorbing our enemy's hatred, tools for our own construction of the Tokugawa Shogunate. Alas, tools get dirty and will soon not work as well for you. Such is the Hattori. They are weak, scattered. They can barely fend off a Yamana army in their land. A tool like this is no use to us. That is why we must discard it." "The move we will make is risky, in fact it might not be able to be accomplished as promise, but we will strive to go past our limitations and soar above the other clans. Such a daring move will inspire the men, give them hope, hope of a quick victory. That is why I ask you, fellow officers and you my lord Hirotada to support me in this effort. We can do this, I know we can. We are the Tokugawa, we have spilled so much blood to get this far, we cannot turn back. Our end result is above all others. We will solidify the Tokugawa Shogunate for hundreds of years to come." With that Yusei finished waiting for the other officers opinions. |
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| Naughty_Ranko | 15/09/2011 - 02:09 am Post #44 |
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Fujiko's eyebrow was twitching. The dumb grin on the Sword Master's face told her plainly that he hadn't understood a word of what the daimyo had said to him. "Once again you completely miss the point, Yusei-sama. You've laid out a fine picture that is like a painting. Only you haven't picked up the brush and shown us the strokes. How do you propose to take all the lands surrounding Kyoto in one year? How can you even do that, when you still have to fend off a Yamana army at our doorstep, especially when there's only one army ready to take the field? Once again you have failed to mention what role Motchitaka will play. You say that you have plans for him. Then what is it? What is the plan for the Date campaign? Putting armies in the field is only half of it. They have to actually do something as well and without proper orders they won't. I must also question the wisdom of going to war with the Hattori now of all times. It has always been the intent to do so, once the Date have been sufficiently dealt with. That campaign, however, isn't much further along than it was a year ago. Furthermore that's not your call to make. Attacking them now means breaking the alliance and declaring war on them. That decision lies with lord Hirotada and myself. That's exactly why we need to know your plans, so we can work these things out." Fujiko turned to the daimyo. "I hope you are aware of all the ramifications the Kensei's plan would bring, my lord. If we break the alliance, instead of letting the Hattori make the first move as we intended, it will reflect poorly on our diplomacy. The Ikko-Ikki are the only real allies we have right now. Do you really want to upset them and make them wary of us by dishonouring treaties? Furthermore it will reflect poorly on yourself, my lord. It will decrease your honour. That means further penalties to diplomacy, the loyalty of your generals will waver and it will have consequences for public order in our provinces. We could have two more years of peace at the southern front. Will you let your daughter have gone into the lion's den for nothing?" Fujiko turned back to the Sword Master. "I cannot agree to this half-baked idea until I hear details, Yusei-sama. I want to hear exactly how you propose to take the lands surrounding Kyoto on which we have absolutely no intelligence data. If you don't want us to think that you have no plan, then let us hear one. One that is grounded in reality, not idle speeches of 100 years to come. As long as I am Head Priestess, I will not agree to endangering our soldiers in a Hattori war that is so poorly planned out and only Hirotada-sama has the right to tell me otherwise." Edited by Naughty_Ranko, 15/09/2011 - 02:09 am.
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| Deleted User | 15/09/2011 - 03:39 am Post #45 |
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Yusei perked up,"You wish me to elaborate on my plans, Fujiko. Well, it doesn't matter, if you can't support my plan then I shall make a new one. If you want to know so bad what Mochikata will do, well, he'll just be moving down to prepare for war with the Hattori. The Date campaign is simple, you should know this if you watched it. The army we bribed can be used to take Uzen right away, meanwhile our lord Hirotada-sama will take Miyagi." "However, Fujiko, I do not wish to make the Hatakayama our vassals. Miyagi is a great place for military recruitment. Therefore, giving the Miyagi to the Hatakayama can be detrimental to our plans when we become Shogun. Even our vassals will start to lose loyalty to us and having a vassal so far away is to dangerous to security there. Hopefully, if all goes well we can take all of the Date mainland in the next year." "I wish to apologize for my lack of elaboration for my plan against the Hattori. It was only one plan of many I have for the Hattori. I wanted to add spice, a challenge, to our current situation. Right now things are going too easy for us. I wanted the challenge of facing the Hattori early and hopefully win. But if I am shunned, not given a chance to elaborate fully, then I shall stop and not waste my breath." "You seem to call everything I have to say poorly planned, Fujiko-sama. From my point of view everything is going well, too well in fact. The Date are undefended, when we bribed that army we killed them. What more is it to it. Now the war has become simply taking their provinces and keeping public order under control. We should be prepared for war with the Hattori by the end of this year and ready to face them, when we convene again." "The war with the Hattori will be officially prepared this year. Once Mochimori-Sama can kill that Yamana army, his army will sit back in Owari and wait until we receive the orders to march him out. The Hattori are spread out too far, they cannot organize our army. It will be cakewalk killing them. Ieyasu will begin building up his army this year as well. I want him taking down the major Hattori provinces with Mochimori as back up." "My long term plan with the Hattori is to simply take the land surrounding Kyoto, with our two armies. By the time we finish this, Mochikata will be available to help Ieyasu to take the shogunate. Mochimori can continue to push at the Hattori. Once again, this is only a plan and plans never go according to plan. All is based on little to none resistance of the Hattori. If there is resistance, well, it will only slow us down." "For overview, we will be finishing the Date war, and start prepping Ieyasu for the Hattori war. The troops in Kaga can still be used to protect the Ikko Ikki, whilst Mochimori finishes off that Yamana army. Mochikata will begin moving south to serve in reserve, until Kyoto is surrounded. Are you fine with this Fujiko-sama? And your thoughts on keeping Miyagi?" Yusei finished and took a deep breath thinking, Fujiko, you seek to end my plan before it had begun, have you no taste in a challenge. You will not get in my way again, hopefully. |
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