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Topic Started: May 16 2015, 08:19 PM (662 Views)
Eisenritter
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Nothing to see here. Move along.
Edited by Eisenritter, Feb 25 2016, 06:08 PM.
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Eisenritter
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...Heh. Hehehe. Mweheheheehee~
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Methodia
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I hope you'll be happy know that I'm going to use these to make horrifying Kamen Rider-esque characters.

Also good work on these!
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Eisenritter
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...If anything, I feel bugged because the Dragoon doesn't have a unique Gun Kata.

But weapon groups don't actually matter for those so I couldn't be bothered...
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And new gun kata edited in, courtesy of Doc.
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In the homebrew-only game I'm running, players got pretty confused by the names here. It looks like you changed the biggest one (Blackguard to Pale Rider made everybody double-take), but you may want to also consider changing Dragoon so people don't expect jumpspears?
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One of those issues is probably my fault - Eisenritter shifted around some Blackguard stuff slightly (changes I've made in the PDF) and renamed it Warlord (a change I didn't make in the PDF). I just preferred the name Blackguard, so I left that in place, which may have created some confusion - I apologize if that's the case. :'(

And while I can see how somebody might confuse Dragoon for the jumpspears of legend, a quick Googling shows that dragoons were actually a type of cavalry, which I'm going to guess is why the class is named as much.
Edited by Doc, Jul 27 2015, 05:04 PM.
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In the homebrew-only game I'm running, players got pretty confused by the names here. It looks like you changed the biggest one (Blackguard to Pale Rider made everybody double-take), but you may want to also consider changing Dragoon so people don't expect jumpspears?

Blackguard always went to Crimson, never Pale.

Doc
Jul 27 2015, 05:01 PM
And while I can see how somebody might confuse Dragoon for the jumpspears of legend, a quick Googling shows that dragoons were actually a type of cavalry, which I'm going to guess is why the class is named as much.
Bingo. "Dragoon" referred to mounted riflemen, before Final Fantasy came along and ruined everything.

The long and short of it is this: I hate Final Fantasy, and there was a name extant that suited what I was trying to make, as long as I didn't care about the former. ^o)

And, y'know, because it comes from a time when muzzle-loaders were the order of the day, "musketeer" likely wouldn't have been any less confusing, since most people seem to think they were swordsmen.
Edited by Eisenritter, Jul 27 2015, 07:31 PM.
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If it helps any, I'm pretty sure that the only reason the Final Fantasy job is called "Dragoon" is because the literal translation, Dragon Knight, was too long for the name field. And then it stuck around because of inertia once they could fit in more characters.

Compare also FF4's Dark Knight, or D.Knight.

But yeah, real Dragoons were gun-cavalry. (Also, it might be derived from a type of blunderbuss called a "Dragon", FWIW.)
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That too. If I'd wanted to make jumpspear berks, I would be using the literal translation.

Until then, "dragoon" = "mounted rifleman," as it should be.
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