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[DEAD] Alternate Promethean; It Lives
Topic Started: Oct 2 2015, 01:11 PM (819 Views)
Eisenritter
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Liminal

Some berks just refuse to accept the inevitable, and rarely think of the consequences. Liminals are the result... bodies split open, reassembled, forced into a semblance of working order, and then forcibly reanimated. Usually because the creator could not accept the loss of a loved one, or sometimes out of mere curiosity. Liminals rarely if ever possess the personality that the mortal had before death.

Tell: The Liminal's stitches tighten, drawing the preserved features into terrifyingly stark relief. At higher levels, the digging sutures tear into the flesh, causing the ichor preserving them to flow as if bleeding.

Replace the following:

Living Construct with Deathless Cadaver

Integrated Armor with Deathless Rigor

Integrated Weapons with Overcharge

Warstrider with Amalgam

Deathless Cadaver: A Liminal has the Undead trait and is immune to Fatigue, Poison, and Disease. Because a Liminal has a Pyros Reactor instead of a heart, they cannot benefit from a Bionic Heart or any of the artifact versions.

Refitting: As the Promethean ability. Repairing a Liminal requires thread sutures, skin grafts, and body parts of similar size (from a race within 1 point of your own), as well as Medicae + Int tests instead of Crafts + Int tests.

Deathless Rigor: Liminals reduce damage they take from every source by an amount equal to their Generation, except for damage inflicted by magical effects.

Overcharge: Whenever you suffer damage from a source that deals E-type damage, you gain an additional Reaction that must be used before the end of the next round.

Amalgam: You can take racial feats belonging to any race whose body parts are incorporated into your form. This requires an actual body location, such as an arm or your head, not just an eye or a tail. If you lose the body part, any racial feats you have that relied on it are immediately refunded.

Liminal Stitching Assets

Adamantine
These blue-green metal threads blunt magic's effects. Gain Aura equal to your Generation +3, that does not stack with other sources of Aura. You can spend a Pyros to increase your Aura by 3 until the end of the scene.

Pattern Silk
Silk from the spiders inhabiting the Webway resonates with the machinations of destiny, imbuing the sutures holding your body together with fate itself. Any time you would spend (but not burn) a Hero Point, you can spend 3 Pyros instead. If you or anyone within 5 meters of you spends a Hero Point, you regain 3 Pyros.

Shadow Weave
Held together by the absence of light, it feels like your stitches aren't even there! Gain a free raise on all Acrobatics, Stealth, and Larceny tests, and you can go to six dots in each of them. If you spend Pyros to gain extra rolled dice on a test with one of these skills, you gain one additional kept die for every two rolled dice.

Spellstitched
Certain forms of silk - like the ones stitching your body together - cling to magical energies like freshly dried socks. Gain the Minor Magic feat. You can purchase this feat or the Spellbook feat once at each level starting at level 2, as if it appeared in your class progression, but only to learn spells that have been cast in your presence.

Wraithbone Staples
Your body is held together with pins made of wraithbone, channeling magical energy through you and allowing your deathless body to restore itself. As a free action, you may heal one Hit Point by spending a Pyros.
Edited by Eisenritter, Jan 20 2016, 03:30 PM.
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Oct 3 2015, 01:14 PM
Hey, what if Liminals could replace their limbs without an operation or medicae? That is, just stick a spare arm where your stump is with Crafts and it will magically work? It wouldn't allow for other racial feats until G5, but it will make you harder to disable in the middle of battle.
Embalmed is already just straight-up better than the Promethean's Refitting, though - I don't really think it needs a buff.

It takes five days to fix a Promethean's arm, after all, compared to the one hour of the Liminal. Or the "never without spells" of the non-Prometheans, I guess.

Also, Liminals still have the Promethean's Superlative Construction - destroying a limb requires as much effort as it takes to kill a non-Promethean.
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Besides which, there's also the issue of locating a severed body part and enough extra pieces to make it functional if needed. It doesn't really take an hour to sew an arm onto a stump; it takes an hour to attach the arm and skin grafts to make up for any material lost in the separation.
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Neveron

Speaking of Embalmed, what's up with Wraithbone Stitching? It's identical to the Promethean's Wraithbone asset, which I'm pretty sure is mostly just there since Refitting doesn't let them heal with Pyros (which Embalmed does). It still has a benefit in that it lets you bypass Healing Surge, but it feels kind of weird to give an alternate Exalt the asset of the original. IMHO.

Speaking of which, the "you have the Undead trait" bit of Embalmed should probably be spun off into a separate power that replaces Living Construct. (Maybe just call it "Undead", or "Living Dead" for symmetry, or keep it as Embalmed and split the rest of Embalmed into, I dunno, something to do with stitches?)

The Liminal is a bit more survivable than the Promethean, to be honest - they can heal themselves with Pyros although they don't have the TN-25-per-hour thing, they don't suffer Blood Loss if they lose a limb (which the Promethean still does, I'm pretty sure?), they can replace lost limbs really quickly, Deathless Rigor stacks with armor and stonewalls penetration...



On another note, Amalgam seems like it'll have really weird implications? It's probably fine since it's such an end-game ability, but it's one of those that just gets better the more races are made. Off the top of my head Matron[Dryad] is great if you can grab it (especially if you start as a Goliath! Size 8 2Stronk), [Kython, Form] feats might be abusable since AFAIK you don't have the Kython's limit on such feats, going Human can get you yet another race, and, well, since the only thing that'll outright kill you is your Gizzards being destroyed you could get feats from seven races in total (eight if one is Human).
All it takes is for a couple more races to get non-[Paragon] racial feats that increase Size or Resilience and the Generation 5 Liminal gets really scary.

But, like I said, it's probably not that big an issue since it's at Generation 5. Also, using it costs many xps. Also, Warstrider just straight-up doubles your size and gives you +3 to physical characteristics which is like whoa.
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Uh... five assets, mostly?
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So where's the downside to this exaltation? You have the downside power (refitting) replaced with something that is minorly inconvenient, but you can still be healed and replace limbs pretty fast. I wouldn't consider it a downside really especially if it gives you the undead trait and such.
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Refitting wasn't the downside power.
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Refitting isn't even that much of a "downside", beyond the bit where you can't heal yourself with Pyros. Which, y'know, isn't that big a deal when you've got such an increase in HP from Superlative Construction and heal at a greatly accelerated rate anyway.

Seriously, compare that 1/hour test to how much you get from natural healing. It's not really that much of a downside as long as someone has the skills to fix it. They have the technology. If anything, I'd consider the loss of that a mayor blow against the Liminal's long-term stayability - they can heal 1HP/hour with Pyros, but that'll consume their Pyros restoration.

(Prometheans can also be healed with magic, by the way, and can even use it on themselves if they want to.)

Also, the "undead traits" just mean that you're immune to blood loss and stunning effects. You're still subject to Fatigue, Poison and Disease - or would be, if Living Construct didn't take care of those.


The real downside power, Disquiet, is entirely unchanged by the Liminal. -2k1 is a pretty big penalty, and I'm pretty sure it might even include defending yourself - putting the Promethean, Liminal and Perpetual in the competition for "Easiest Exalt to Bully".
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Fuck shit fuck. I need to drink more coffee before I post.

In my defense, Refitting is way harsher than Disquiet.
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Alright, there's the Wraithbone Staples fixed...
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Took a while, but got editing done as pointed out. Deathless Cadaver (formerly Embalmed) now replaces Living Construct, and Refitting gains a note to the effect of using Medicae tests and body parts for a Liminal. In light of this, the Wraithbone Staples asset has been returned to being a copy of the Promethean's Wraithbone asset.
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