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| Kwak | Feb 21 2016, 01:07 AM Post #111 |
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Alternatively: The "crystal" in Baator's sphere is 76% Warpstone. The Daemon Pact things are just because everybody's so gross they think that everybody they take out a loan with is a Daemon |
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| weredrago2 | Feb 21 2016, 01:16 AM Post #112 |
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He Who Posts Too Much
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You can always use the Errata thread (and the Google doc I made for it) to remake whatever fluff you don't think fits the game. Like you did with Tau. You can crosspost that too. |
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| Eisenritter | Feb 21 2016, 08:03 PM Post #113 |
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Starting with this, because I think Kwak's already pretty much resolved the Infernal/Abyssal thing more peaceably than I would trust myself to at this point. I am, in fact, planning to address this. The current plan is to start with the Tuatha and then retcon the Dullahans based on the result of that. At the moment my justification for this particular snarl is that Dullahans were written first, and Tuatha were made using converged elements of other traditionally Fae races (like, say, Dryads).
I... have no viable argument against this, actually. Hm.
No, diametric opposition to the (CE) Abyss would be (LG) Celestia. According to Fiendish Codex II, the original devils were warriors of law who fought back the tides of chaos for the gods... before any concept of good or evil, evil would ultimately be defined by Asmodeus introducing the concept of Punishment for releasing the demons, and increasingly draconic methods to enact it.
Once again: Devil (which Dusklings/Vizards are based on) = Hell = Infernal. |
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| weredrago2 | Feb 21 2016, 08:07 PM Post #114 |
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You forgot to refute the rest of my post there. I'd like to see a counterargument. Also, your math is also wrong. Devil (which Tieflings/Daemons are based on) = Abyss = Abyssal. |
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| Eisenritter | Feb 21 2016, 08:11 PM Post #115 |
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There you go.
You're talking to someone who's played D&D. My math isn't wrong; yours is lacking data. |
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| weredrago2 | Feb 21 2016, 08:15 PM Post #116 |
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I was referring to this.
If they have little to no communication, I don't see why they'd share a unique language to themselves. Plus, if people in Baator speak Infernal and not Abyssal (of there should be no difference), then you have a billion Tieflings who can't speak their own language. |
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| Eisenritter | Feb 21 2016, 08:20 PM Post #117 |
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Nope, that was covered. |
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| weredrago2 | Feb 21 2016, 08:28 PM Post #118 |
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So, are you agreeing with me or not? Kwak's comment is an open ended statement. I'm just concerned as to what will be going into the PDF and becoming 'canon'. On the topic of Tuatha/Fair Folk/Raksha/[REDACTED], why do they speak Spirit? If Abyssal (spoken by tieflings and daemons) and Spirit (spoken by ghots and primal spirits in the Umbra) are defined as two different things, I don't see why we can't have Sidhe as a unique language distinct from those two. Unseelie can have Abyssal and/or Spirit as bonus languages. In the same way we have Fairies speaking Spirit, I can imagine Dullahans and Changelings speaking Sidhe as a racial language. |
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| Username | Feb 21 2016, 08:32 PM Post #119 |
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Not so fast. Spoken by SOME Daemons. Although they probably prefer to be called Angels, there are likely just as many Daemons working for Blessed Order and speaking Celestial. |
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| Eisenritter | Feb 21 2016, 08:33 PM Post #120 |
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I was under the impression that we were going to discuss what the Tuatha were speaking first and determine the other "Fae" races' stuff from there? That being said, again, Tuatha speaking Spirit was drawn from an existing traditional fey (Dryads) having the same, and Fae generally being associated with nature/primal spirits anyway. |
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