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Languages; Are there too many?
Topic Started: Jan 27 2016, 11:32 PM (2,139 Views)
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Orkish is easy, all you do is point and grunt.

Well, if an Ordo Xenos Inquisitor has anything to say on the matter, Orkish is mostly just that. With some hard punches. Still.

General nitpicky bullshit
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Would the Human language be something like 40k's High/Low Gothic?

According to what I could gleam from the internet, Clawspeak is some kind of written code/cipher for Lunar Exalted. Here, I'm assuming that means Werewolves have their own written language that needs to be taught to them, as opposed to knowing it naturally.
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Jan 28 2016, 02:58 PM
Instead of having Sphinxes and Mobians speak Modronese, you could just give them 'any other'. Mobians are constantly travelling, so it makes sense they would have a language relevant to their specific situation.

Speaking of Sphinxes, why do they have 3 languages? Is there a precedent?
Dryads have Trade, Elven, and Spirit (all of which are pretty good choices).

That does make sense, since Mobians are basically Land Kenku. If the C'tan thing doesn't pan out then that's probably what I'll do.

How Kwak does the core languages


I've also made a summary of the main discussions on the OP. Let me know what I'm missing.
Edited by Kwak, Jan 28 2016, 03:32 PM.
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We aren't using Iktyhs anymore, as they were replaced with Sahaugin.

I can toss Gith on Warforged, adding the implication that they were slaves of the Mind Flayers or something.

Let's change Slaad and Lizardmen to speaking Syrneth. It would make sense that Lizardmen could read the libraries that they preserve, right?
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Well, the Syrneth language is name-dropped in the Speak Language feat as an option you can take before the "Etc." even kicks in. Which basically means it's neither a dead language nor a rare one.

On the matter of the Blessed Pantheon/Ruinous Powers, I'm not sure why any of them would even care about languages. Being Warp beings, couldn't they just... I dunno, transmit intent or emotion or whatever to get their point across, completely avoiding any language barriers? The only one I can think of who'd care about having a language is Sigmar, and that's because structure and order is kinda his thing.
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Jan 28 2016, 03:33 PM
We aren't using Iktyhs anymore, as they were replaced with Sahaugin.

I can toss Gith on Warforged, adding the implication that they were slaves of the Mind Flayers or something.

Let's change Slaad and Lizardmen to speaking Syrneth. It would make sense that Lizardmen could read the libraries that they preserve, right?
On the same token, Dusklings were swapped over to Infernal (they're pretty much imps, the lowest caste of devil, as viewed through MtG).

As for Lizardmen being able to "read" Syrneth, the line of thought I had was that they collected these tablets, right? Said tablets may have included messages or orders meant for the races the Syrne created, which means they may have been written in both Syrneth and Eldarin/Orkish/Saurian/whatever. Or possibly all of them. Orichalcum Rosetta Stones, basically.

Which also goes with my previous theory that Syrneth is an ultra-precise language and nobody speaks it because we've only been able to translate it using idiomatic ones...

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On the matter of the Blessed Pantheon/Ruinous Powers, I'm not sure why any of them would even care about languages. Being Warp beings, couldn't they just... I dunno, transmit intent or emotion or whatever to get their point across, completely avoiding any language barriers? The only one I can think of who'd care about having a language is Sigmar, and that's because structure and order is kinda his thing.

As I'd said before. Blessed Pantheon has one (Celestial) to promote unity among their followers, Ruinous Powers has one (Abyssal) because the infighting is less entertaining if nobody can understand each other. :P
Edited by Eisenritter, Jan 28 2016, 03:39 PM.
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Even if warp beings just beamed ideas into your head, you'd have to hear it as something. You'd presumably hear it in a language that you understand.
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Jan 28 2016, 03:35 PM
Well, the Syrneth language is name-dropped in the Speak Language feat as an option you can take before the "Etc." even kicks in. Which basically means it's neither a dead language nor a rare one.

On the matter of the Blessed Pantheon/Ruinous Powers, I'm not sure why any of them would even care about languages. Being Warp beings, couldn't they just... I dunno, transmit intent or emotion or whatever to get their point across, completely avoiding any language barriers? The only one I can think of who'd care about having a language is Sigmar, and that's because structure and order is kinda his thing.
They do transmit those thoughts directly...in Celestial/Abyssal. It's fantasy.

I agree with slaad/Lizardman speaking Syrneth. I don't agree with Warforged losing Binary in favor of Gith.
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I wasn't going to remove Binary. I just added Gith. They're machines, so they probably come with those languages pre-programmed.
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(This isn't specifically directed at you, weredrago, I just thought your response was the best to quote for this purpose)

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Even if warp beings just beamed ideas into your head, you'd have to hear it as something.

Says fuckin' who? We are literally talking about beings that live in the Warp, a realm so far outside of rational thought that looking at it actually drives people insane. Unless you're a Navigator, which - if WH40K is anything to go by - isn't even looking at the Warp, but what that specific Navigator wants to see the Warp as. And frankly, if a god wants to specifically talk to somebody using words, not only could they probably speak that language - the recipient of their divine will probably hears it as whatever language they want to begin with, just to properly comprehend what one of the most powerful beings of the Warp is saying to them. We won't even talk about the fact that there is literally no chance of misunderstanding if followers want to be understood, since everybody knows Trade. Or the fact that their most devoted followers - the recipients of actual divine power, the Chosen - wouldn't know the language of their god unless they were an Aasimar or Tiefling.

But no, apparently plant people, ghosts, and werewolves talk in the language of abstract thoughts and impressions, and actual gods are shackled to asking their followers what to do with words that exist. Um, what?

(...That looks more hostile than I mean it, but I digress)
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