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Psionic Exaltation Discussion; Revenge of the Aboleth
Topic Started: Feb 4 2016, 03:04 PM (818 Views)
Kwak
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This is the thread in which we started the "Mindbender" exaltation

The New Psionic Exaltation
Edited by Kwak, Feb 5 2016, 01:34 AM.
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Simmering now: D&D Next is currently doing a playtest of a psionicist class called the "Mystic," which rather than using power points and not-spells employs a "psionic focus" mechanic and pseudo-magical features, more similar to a D&D-ized Jedi or Sith than the psionicist classes of old.

Mind you the problem with trying to adapt that is that it's basically any damn exalt, where we run into about the same problem we had with the "transforming hero" ones...
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While we all have different ideas on how to go about doing this, I think we should only have one in the book. Therefore, we should try working together to make this thing work. Of course, other users on here and 4chan should also have a say in this, so they shouldn't think they're being excluded.

Let's take this one step at a time. First off, what fluff do we like?
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Clearly not Soulblazer's, which is what I'd been using. Reckon we can use illithid ceremorphosis somehow?
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"Any damn exalt" is why my version currently lacks a Use the Force dice bonus. That might be a mistake, since some people really missed having that in the Force Sensitive and it helps keep away from that laser-focus, but then again Reviewanon had some harsh things to say about it.

Do we want this to be laser-focused on magic?

On the topic of resentment/competition/butthurt, there's clearly been plenty of that on my end too. A lot of the Psion's design decisions were inspired more by petty rage at Force Sensitive fluff or Parapsyker names than anything really worthwhile. More recently, I interpreted the Parapsyker 2.0 thing as a mean-spirited hijacking instead of what it really was, a response to my inactivity. So I'm at least as guilty of that as you.

God, what a mess. This makes the Font look like a walk in the park. I hate psionics
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I too have been guilty of having mad salt on here.

Back on subject, Trinity's Psions are made when a latent psion is put in a 'Prometheus Chamber' that unlocks their hidden abilities. There are natural Psions called Psiads, but they are super rare.

The Pandemonium/Far Realm stuff in my Psion is from D&D's explanation that psionics may be a natural defense against the Far Realm's influence.
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Feb 4 2016, 03:12 PM
While we all have different ideas on how to go about doing this, I think we should only have one in the book. Therefore, we should try working together to make this thing work. Of course, other users on here and 4chan should also have a say in this, so they shouldn't think they're being excluded.

Let's take this one step at a time. First off, what fluff do we like?
Here's my take.
Soulblazer's fluff: Too much like the Sage, emphasizes the magic redundancy rather than fixing it, sounds pretentious as hell and never really explains anything. Soulblazer is my favorite poster on here, but holy shit kill that with fire pls

Force Sensitive's fluff: Midichlorians An energy field Galaxy far far away lol

Psion's fluff: Generic as possible. Originally, that was on purpose, so SMs and players could make their own reason, but I don't think that's acceptable. The rest is just explaining the crunch, and that depends on what the crunch is so there's probably not too much to look at here for now. We need fluff that distinctly justifies why this Exalt deserves to exist.

Weredrago's fluff: Distinctly justifies why this Exalt deserves to exist. It's WIP as hell, but already accomplishes its goal better than the other two. This is the one we want to start with.

My only problem with that is I don't know jack shit about Cthulus, and if we make the exalt Cthulus then it's hard for me to contribute but that's what I get for declaring this a D&D Psionic huh?

Some thoughts:

  • Aboleths and Illithids specialize in Divination & Enchantment - the default Psionic schools. So there's already some built-in synergy between fluff and crunch, as well as something to point to when people want justification.
  • But Aboleths haven't really done anything for millenia, so it's hard to explain them directly causing Psionics. Maybe it's just Pandaemonium.
  • If it's just Pandaemonium that triggers it, why don't the Night Lords just send boatloads of Tieflings over for instant Psions?
Edited by Kwak, Feb 4 2016, 03:29 PM.
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I'd interpreted the "Use the Force" thing as being more about "gain one kept die for every two rolled dice from resource points"?

Prioritize weird abilities that don't necessarily come from spell mechanics, like Mind-Hand Manipulation (because Lucy's not a Wraith or Sin-Eater, damn), maybe a couple that might be useful if you are or are around spellcasters a lot?
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Don't focus on the Mythos. My sources were Biotics from Mass Effect (created from contact with Element Zero in the womb), D&D Psionics (the plane's antibodies against the Far Realm) and Star Wars (fuck Midichlorians, but you get the idea).

As for why nobody tries to mass produce Psions, remember what happens to people who stay there 99% of the time. You just can't mass produce Exalts... unless you're a Vampire, but even then it has a cost.
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Feb 4 2016, 03:29 PM
I'd interpreted the "Use the Force" thing as being more about "gain one kept die for every two rolled dice from resource points"?

Prioritize weird abilities that don't necessarily come from spell mechanics, like Mind-Hand Manipulation (because Lucy's not a Wraith or Sin-Eater, damn), maybe a couple that might be useful if you are or are around spellcasters a lot?
Agreed. Even if we do make it a super-spellcaster, those weird things are crucial. Telekinesis especially is the best crunch legitimacy we'll ever get, and it may be even more suited as a starting trait than Extrasensory. It also leads to flying via telekinesis, fighting via telekinesis, etc.
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