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| Night Terror | Oct 11 2006, 08:42 AM Post #1 |
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It's the year 20XX and Earth has become populated with humans and Repliods alike. Until one incident occured that would change the course of history. The Reploids the humans had begun to trust completely started to become Mavericks. Having their data corrupted, they began to turn on humans who built them. Dr. Thomas Light and his son Rock a.k.a. Mega Man along with Rush and Roll had stopped the crazed mad man Dr. Willy and his demonic creation known as Proto Man years before. Mega Man was called forth to protect the humans from the Mavericks, but due to his old upgrades failed to protect anyone and was destroyed in the battle. All that Dr. Light ever found was Rock's memory chip which was slightly damaged. In the mass chaos Dr. Light created a new more powerful version of Rock and named him Mega Man X. But because Earth was in such bad shape, Dr. Light decided to put X into a capsule and shot him into space where the Mavericks could find him. Mega Man X awoke in the year 21XX at the Maverick Hunter HQ. His capsule was recovered by the great Maverick Hunter Sigma. X explained his situation and was allowed to join Maverick Hunter HQ. He was put in charge of the 19th Unit. Along with him and Sigma, there was Squid Adler leader of the 8th Unit, Vile leader of the 6th Unit, and Magma Dragoon leader of the 14th Unit. While in space, there was another capsule floating. On it was the imfamous signia of Dr. Willy. Inside was a red reploid with a very long hair bundled into a tail. His name was Zero and was designed as the back up model and program if ever Proto Man was ever destroyed. But his capsule crashed on Earth, and Zero himself became a Maverick The story of Mega Man X begins here... Anyway, post about the game(s). |
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| Cinos Gohegdeh | Nov 9 2006, 07:51 PM Post #2 |
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I love Megaman X, but, your version of the story has some plot errors. -The robots in the Megaman series are not reploids, as reploids do not exist yet. You see, all reploids were designed based off the original reploid, Megaman X. Because of this, not only were there not reploids yet, but there were no mavericks yet either, as robots still did not have true free will. Sigma did not discover Megaman X, Dr. Cane did. - Protoman was created by Dr. Light, he was only Megaman's enemy in Megaman 3, and after that Protoman and Megaman were good friends, and considered brothers. Bass was Dr. Wily's creation, and his most powerful robot until Wily created Zero. -Megaman's ultimate fate is never explained, though it may be in a future game. -X and Zero's capsules were not launched into space, but actually remained in the labs of their individual creators, buried under the earth. -X was not in charge of a Maverick hunter unit until after Sigma went Maverick, as X was considered to weak to help fight the Mavericks. - Zero was designed when Wily discover a new power source he named the Z energy. Zero has no relation to Protoman whatsoever. - Zero was not technically a maverick originally, but rather controlled by Wily. Wily lost control of Zero when Sigma destroyed the head jewel that controlled Zero (Megaman X4) |
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| Night Terror | Nov 10 2006, 09:36 AM Post #3 |
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Yes and no. Although Dr. Light did create Proto Man, it was Willy who stole Proto Man from Light and brought him to life making evil and pretty much the secondary boss in the Mega Man games on the SNES. Also if you watch the actual cartoon show you'd seen that Proto Man was Mega Man's evil brother under the comand of Willy. Although Willy was controlling Zero, the Maverick Hunter HQ branded him as a Maverick as can see in the fight scene between Sigma and Zero, and after it back on the Final Weapon, Sigma calls Zero a Maverick because in their terms a Maverick is any reploid that creates chaos and havoc which is what Zero had been doing. Mega Man X ultimate fate was somewhat explained and that was to be there in case if ever Zero was turned by his own virus which Sigma forced him to create in X-5 when Zero crashed the rocket against the giant meteor. X's sole mission is to destroy Zero if he were ever to go Maverick again |
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| Cinos Gohegdeh | Nov 10 2006, 05:01 PM Post #4 |
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Well when your considering the connection of the Megaman world to the X world, the show can't really be considered cannon. Now yes, Wily did steal Protoman for the short time of Megaman 3, but afterwards Protoman spends his time helping Megaman. What you say about Zero being a Maverick is primarily true, but at the same time the original defintion of a maverick included that the reploid had to be creating the havok under his own free will, which Zero did not have at that time. I really didn't exactly say anything about X's fate, I was referring solely to Megaman's fate, as Megaman 8 (the last in that series) ends with Wily and Megaman and Bass and everybody else still alive. Your right, it does say at more then one point in the X series that it is X's destiny to save the world by destroying Zero. X's fate is explained more in MegamanZero..... |
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| Night Terror | Nov 11 2006, 08:48 AM Post #5 |
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Well the series was conceptually taken from the games themselves so they do offer some insight although that may not completely be true. Mavericks although they might have free will at the time, most of the time they are working under Sigma, Gate, or Lumine meaning that they are exerting some kind of control over them. So at the same time they can be maverick and not be because of that gray area. Well true that Mega Man's fate was never really revealed, that's why Capcom chose to create Megaman X to kind of continue the storyline not that the connection between Mega Man and Megaman X is very clear. I guess they left that up to the gamers to decide what happened. As for Megaman X, even at the end of Megaman X-8, Sigma has finally been silenced (or so HQ thinks) and X, Zero, and Axl are all still alive and work for Maverick Hunter HQ so again it doesn't really end like you'd expect it. BUt's even worse is that there will be no sequel to Megaman X, since they're releasing ZX in a few months or so for the DS. |
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| FrozenLava | Nov 12 2006, 01:11 PM Post #6 |
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ZX is going to actually continue megaman x it goes like this In the time of megaman zero, on the fourth game, zero dies on ragnok and is blown into hundreds of pieces. so are the guardians and ragnok itself, merged with wily. years after that they find the soul fragments of Zero, x, the gurdians, and wily. also, they talk about a great warrior in red armor and a courages leader of blue (X and Zero) and anyone who aquries the parts of zero, x, Wily, and the gurdians, are considered Megamen. trust me, i beat the game. also, characters from zero come back. like the guardians is run by ciels sister, the one who carries around the stuffed toys. also, alot of characters here resemble old characters. |
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| Night Terror | Nov 12 2006, 01:57 PM Post #7 |
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I've known that but what I meant as in continue is that Zero, X, nor Axl are in it which would be what a sequel would be. The fact that old characters are back and playable The whole Final Fantasy X & X-2 concept. That's wjhat I meant. |
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| Cinos Gohegdeh | Nov 13 2006, 07:04 AM Post #8 |
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Well I just sat down and played X collection again tonight, and I gotta say that Megaman X1 is by far my favorite. X2 was pretty good, and X3 was decent, but just like regular Megaman, the whole series went down the pooper after that. |
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| Night Terror | Nov 13 2006, 10:09 AM Post #9 |
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What kind of pissed me off is that some of the X games where produced and made by Americans not Japanese creators and the American creators screw Zero by removing his Z Buster. Which he briefly gets in X-5 & X-6 even though storywise he starts out with it and then get's the Z Saber from Sigma. Also another thing I hate about the newest X games is that they removed the auto charge and the rapid fire options. My favorite Megaman X game has to be either X-4, X-5, or X-6. What I found weird about X-2 was the fact that's where the whole armors concept started. |
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| Cinos Gohegdeh | Nov 13 2006, 07:07 PM Post #10 |
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Actually Zero had his Z-saber before he and Sigma meet, going off of the story in Megaman X4. X6 is terrible. The bosses are lazily made, and there are points in the game where you can't continue unless you have the correct armor and are using it for that level, making you have to continuesly die until you can go back to the stage select screen. Megaman X6 is the first game I've ever played in which extra lives were absolutely useless, and made it worse for you. In X6, if you run out of lives and go to the continue screen, continueing take you back to where the life would have. So lives only make you suffer longer, seeing as you could get to a point where your stuck and then have to die a ton of times. I hate the whole idea of having more then one set of armor, as both sets always sucked, for example, in X5, the 4th armor from X4 that X gets to keep, is better then the 2 other armors he unlocks, and so I ended up beating Sigma using the 4th armor, until I found the Ultimate armor, which stayed exactly the same through 3 whole games. The whole armor concept started in X1 though, which had the best armor in my opinion of all of them. |
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| Night Terror | Nov 14 2006, 08:21 AM Post #11 |
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I'm not so sure about that because in the fight scene between him and Sigma when he was being controlled by Willy he had no compartment on his back for the Z energy and I did not see him use the Z Saber either nor did he have it in the. Originally when Zero was first created by Willy he was equipped with the Z Buster because Willy was never enough of a genius to utilize the Z energy properly to create the Z Saber. I'm just probably guessing you don't know how to correctly utilize the armors system because I like the idea of having different armors because of the fact that some bosses and levels are easier beat by using different armors. In X-5 the Fourth (Force) Armor of X-4 was pretty good but the fact is that it lacked the Nova Strike it had in X-4. The second armor, the Falcon Armor is probably the 3rd greatest armor ever created because it allowed X to freely fly and cause damage if he crashed into an enemy. But the armors of X-6 I have to agree kind of sucked because both the Blade and Shadow armor all centered around the Z-Saber not the X-Buster. Since with both armors X was able to execute a special Z-Saber attack instead of an all powerful blast. The Ultimate Armor did in fact stay the same through 4,5, & 6 the only little differences would be that in X-6 the armor changed color to black/navy instead of the regular dark blue. But if you've played X-8 the creators kind of modified the Ultimate Armor yet screwed it at the same time. Because in the original Ultimate concept X was able to hover with the Ultimate Armor in X-8 he could no longer do that because that was passed on to Axl. Also another thing that they screwed was the Nova Strike. Although it remained infinite, in X-8 after use you'd have to wait for the Weapon Gauge to charge back up before executing it again. Also I liked the Nightmare Zero thing (Black armor Zero). |
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| Cinos Gohegdeh | Nov 16 2006, 07:47 PM Post #12 |
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Going back and looking, I now see that their honestly is know real explanation for Zero's Z saber. It was added in X2, but still their is no explanation for it. If you collected all of Zero's parts, then he comes back with the saber, and if you don't collect all of his parts, then Sigma has him with the saber. Either way, he somehow just automatically has that Saber. Zero's black armor is based off of X2 in which if you do collect all of Zero's pieces Sigma makes a fake zero with black armor. As I recall in X6 the Shadow armor was endlessly cheesy. Each swing of a fully charged blade would do huge damage to bosses, but then there would be those areas in levels where you would need a mid air dash to complete the level, and with the Shadow armor you were stuck until you ran out of lives...... I always thought the Nova strike was a little too god-modish. The ability to just fly back and forth invincible doing heavy damage seemed really cheesy.... |
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| Night Terror | Nov 18 2006, 08:21 AM Post #13 |
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Yeah pretty much back with the Zero parts. But the scene I was talking about in X-4 was the one cut scene that happens when you're about to face Sigma with Zero and it shows a little clip of Sigma when he was still a Maverick Hunter tracking down Zero in an abandoned warehouse where he fights him while Zero was under the control of Willy. At some point in the scene Sigma pulls out what looks like the Z-Saber or could just be a copy but look liked the real thing also that scene happened around X-1/X-2. Sigma did do that but the Nighmare Zero concept then later was remade because in X-5 Dr. Light tried to create an armor for Zero but only was able to create a power enhancement (same capsule where you find the Ultimate Armor). Not really usefull unless you're really good with Zero since in the Nightmare Zero he takes twice as much damage and does twice as much damage. The Shadow Armor was quite powerful and yet at the same time kind of stupid because it was deisgned to be a mimic of a ninja because X looked like one and could shoot out shuriken shapped blasts from his buster. Fully charged he could unleash a charged crescent shapped blade attack which yes did do massive amounts of damage against bosses and was the only weapon you needed against High Max. Also his Giga Attack with that was just destructive since the attack released two crescent shapped blade attacks that spun around him whe he executed it. What sucked about it is that X had no aerial dash with it but could stick to walls. Well I guess that's why they call it the "Ultimate Armor" with it, it was basically impossible to lose. The only thing that I kind of hated was the fact that it's not as useful against Sigma in X-4 since the Plasma Shot wasn't as useful as the 2nd type Buster type you could get for the Force Armor (Quadra charge shot). And in X-5 it was just too easy cause you could just defeat Sigma with just flying around and using the Nova Strike. |
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| Cinos Gohegdeh | Nov 20 2006, 05:14 AM Post #14 |
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Yeah, I know all that since Megaman games are easy to beat and I have the Megaman X collection. The fight scene between Sigma and Wily-controlled Zero is supposed to take place before X1, and that Saber Sigma is using is the one he used during the final fight in X1 with X. Technically the whole Nightmare Zero thing was created in X6. Zero is actually capable of getting the black armor in X4, X5, and X6, as Zero's version of X's Ultimate armor. It was basically a reference to the black Zero clone in X2. I found it extremely useful, especially if you have all of Zero's Saber powerups, which will make his Saber red instead of purple, and ridiculously powerful. You basically what I said about the Shadow armor, and, just as the Shadow armor is a Ninja imitation, the blade armor was a samurai imitation. Sigma was pretty hard in X5 if you don't have the ultimate armor. |
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| Night Terror | Nov 21 2006, 10:11 AM Post #15 |
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True about the power ups that they change the saber's color but the little thing that sets that off is that once you get the Nightmare Zero his saber's color permently changes to violet and no matter what power ups you combine you can never change it. This is true for X-4, X-5, and X-6. In X-8 the Nightmare Zero shift has no effect on his saber's color. The color only changes once you gain the Zekkyyoudan from Earthrock Trilobyte. Although the Blade Armor was kind of based off of a samurai, all the abilities were a bit different from something a Samurai would actually do. In the X-5 Sigma wasn't really that hard if you used Zero or the Gaea Armor. I beat him pretty easily. |
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| Cinos Gohegdeh | Nov 21 2006, 08:02 PM Post #16 |
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Well with the blade color I just know that in X5 I got Zero a Scarlet saber, which looked cool. Well sure samurai's don't shoot plasma energy or dash in midair after a brief floating pause but still a samurai was the overall intention for that armor. Well, with X5 Sigma, it does depend alot on who you used. |
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| Night Terror | Nov 22 2006, 02:43 PM Post #17 |
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It is possbile to get that color of the saber if Zero is his normal red color not Nightmare. Once you make that switch the power ups will have an effect on his attack but not on the color. Because you could have the scarlet saber and then enter the capsule and get the Nightmare Zero once you do that saber's color will automatically change to violet. In almost every X game it depended on which character(s) you used. In X-4 Sigma was easier with Zero than with X. But all this again depends on if you're good with close ranged attacks or long ranged attacks. |
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| Cinos Gohegdeh | Nov 23 2006, 07:16 AM Post #18 |
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Well when I got the Black Zero upgrade in X5 the saber turned scarlet. I like close range and long range, though considering X's touch damage system, it's usually bad to rely on close range. |
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| Night Terror | Nov 24 2006, 08:28 AM Post #19 |
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Well there are 2 versions of X-5 made so I guess that is possible. I'm more used to the close ranged attacks of Zero mainly because I like playing fighting games so that goes along with it. But As for long range, I prefer Axl over X mainly because of the rapid fire with his Axl Bullet. Ever since they took out the Auto Charge option starting with X-7 (which personally I think was the worst X game made). |
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| Cinos Gohegdeh | Nov 26 2006, 05:00 AM Post #20 |
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Well I like Zero's close range attacks too, just get tired of losing huge health when an enemies foot is too close to me, know what I mean? I never used auto charge really. Ever since X1, which I had the most trouble with of all the games, I've held the attack button and tapped the jump button with my thumb, and I've used my pointer finger to press the dash button. It looks a tad awkward, but it's much more efficient then double tapping in a direction. I never played as Axel, but rapid fire makes me think of the old days when Megaman could only shoot yellow dots.... |
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