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Thoughts on Spark Shot and eps
Topic Started: May 20 2010, 10:47 AM (654 Views)
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I've been looking back on some of the eps and I've kinda realized that we've totally ignored one important aspect of Spark Shot.

In the games it doesn't actually kill anything. Sure it hurts bosses, but minor enemies? No. I'm looking back at all those times where Spark Chan's pacivity has been called into question, but I think we've all kinda glossed over the fact that Spark Shot just freezes things in place!

In terms of people fitting character, it kinda makes Classi even more suited to Spark, IMHO. Hm.

Kinda makes me wanna go back in time and let Rich know then when he was writing Wanted. It'd have been an important plot point back then.
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I thought I did bring this up at one point regarding Spark Chan's passifism, and someone said that even non-lethal Spark Shocking qualified as violence that she would prefer to avoid. "Don't tase me bro!"

Either way, it's not like we can rewrite the old stories that much. If you want to explore the non-lethal applications of Spark Shock, then might as well do it on a moving-forward basis instead of fussing over what's already past.
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Raijin,May 20 2010
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I thought I did bring this up at one point regarding Spark Chan's passifism, and someone said that even non-lethal Spark Shocking qualified as violence that she would prefer to avoid. "Don't tase me bro!"

Either way, it's not like we can rewrite the old stories that much. If you want to explore the non-lethal applications of Spark Shock, then might as well do it on a moving-forward basis instead of fussing over what's already past.

I don't rember it being brought up.

No, not rewriting anything. And the ship has sailed on that point of the Spark Shot. But it was something I realised today as I was reading comments on MM3 and figured I'd bring it up here for discussion (since we don't really have much epilogue discussion ... or much discussion of any sort).
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Oh my poor brother...*pats you on the shoulder* the time will come when random tidbits might be useful...
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Yeah, poor me.

The tidbits do come in handy when writing eps sometimes. Sometimes there's a plothole you can fill in a clever way.

It's just too bad I didn't catch this one at a more pertinent time. A store definately could've been made out of it ¬_¬

On a side note, however, Snakeman's shift in personality (from generick Mechs nerdowell to dedicated law-and-order officer) that didn't get a story behind it during War (as was planned at one point) actually does have a credible one in Wanted, with the sniper training.
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Gauntlet101010,May 21 2010
05:30 PM
On a side note, however, Snakeman's shift in personality (from generick Mechs nerdowell to dedicated law-and-order officer) that didn't get a story behind it during War (as was planned at one point) actually does have a credible one in Wanted, with the sniper training.

And the betrayal amirite?
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Well, by then Snake was a pretty dedicated cop, but that did toughen him up, yes.

It's nice to have found a plothole not actually exist when you think it did.
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Gauntlet101010,May 21 2010
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Yeah, poor me.

The tidbits do come in handy when writing eps sometimes. Sometimes there's a plothole you can fill in a clever way.

It's just too bad I didn't catch this one at a more pertinent time. A store definately could've been made out of it ¬_¬

On a side note, however, Snakeman's shift in personality (from generick Mechs nerdowell to dedicated law-and-order officer) that didn't get a story behind it during War (as was planned at one point) actually does have a credible one in Wanted, with the sniper training.

Well, It's not like there's a MAJOR plot hole in Spark Shot, mostly because it hurts when the boss uses it, but not when MEGAMAN uses it.

So Obviously, it has more power coming from sparkman himself, and megaman's version is just a pacifism type weapon, since he has a character hates fights and would rather disable than destroy.

So... There is that.
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Mahajarah,May 22 2010
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Gauntlet101010,May 21 2010
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Yeah, poor me.

The tidbits do come in handy when writing eps sometimes.  Sometimes there's a plothole you can fill in a clever way. 

It's just too bad I didn't catch this one at a more pertinent time.  A store definately could've been made out of it ¬_¬

On a side note, however, Snakeman's shift in personality (from generick Mechs nerdowell to dedicated law-and-order officer) that didn't get a story behind it during War (as was planned at one point) actually does have a credible one in Wanted, with the sniper training.

Well, It's not like there's a MAJOR plot hole in Spark Shot, mostly because it hurts when the boss uses it, but not when MEGAMAN uses it.

So Obviously, it has more power coming from sparkman himself, and megaman's version is just a pacifism type weapon, since he has a character hates fights and would rather disable than destroy.

So... There is that.


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That's true. And that's exactly why it's essential nature on minor enemies was ignored.
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This topic makes me wonder about her tenure as Web Spider, and the Lightning Web was not really an offensive weapon. (Aside from shocking Split Mushroom).

Oh well. Look at it this way, it's not as huge as the plot holes I made during my brief time running the X-Force and how it spilled over into my tenures in Wilys Warriors and the Sinister Six. The origins of Heatman and Fireman are just one huge clusterf**k that made me go "screw it" and derail the ol' Zippo in BoW in one last hurrah of whatever lingering teenage wangst remained in my system.

Just interesting to note that I thought there was everything to know about storytelling in my teenage arrogance, only to go to college and discover how wrong I was. If I could take the Wayback Machince back to 2000, I'd give my 16-year-old a solid smack upside the head for future plot holes he'd create and then tell him to get a job.
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I guess Classi keeps having these weapons perfectly suited to her nature and nobody ever brings it up.

Ironically, I do remember giving Andon a scene in Ice VS Red that had him use his electrical powers to stun people because he was a pacifist, which completely goes against the overpowered nature of his own weapon. Ironic. I guess his pacifism stood out more than Classi's.
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Benjamin,May 22 2010
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This topic makes me wonder about her tenure as Web Spider, and the Lightning Web was not really an offensive weapon. (Aside from shocking Split Mushroom).

Well, that's when X used it, but not how Web Spider himself used it in-game. :P In the game, Web couldn't create platforms of any sort with Lightning Web and really didn't need to.

...Though, the paralying Spark Shock is probably something worth exploring. I mean, could we go under the assumption that, rather than Mega Man getting a weapon the Robot Master didn't have (in such cases as Spark Man), Mega Man's version is actually a weapon that the Robot Master chose not to use in the boss battle? Just a possible explanation for having Classi use Mega Man's version of the weapon in the epilogues. ^^;;
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REX Barron,May 29 2010
07:34 PM
In the game, Web couldn't create platforms of any sort with Lightning Web and really didn't need to.

Er... I think that is not entirely right Rex. On the "second phase" of the battle, Web Spider does create a wide web to keep himself in the vicinity and move around, or at least that's what I remember.
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REX Barron,May 29 2010
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In the game, Web couldn't create platforms of any sort with Lightning Web and really didn't need to.

Er... I think that is not entirely right Rex. On the "second phase" of the battle, Web Spider does create a wide web to keep himself in the vicinity and move around, or at least that's what I remember.

He does, but that's not essentially what megaman does. He actually walks on it and stands.
Megaman merely creates something to jump off of and then it dissipates.
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Well, Megaman's doesn't last as long, but you can cling to it. It's, essentially, a weaker version of the boss' weapon, but it still does the same thing.

We don't really see how Sparkman's weapon would work on minor enemies, and Spark can charge it. It would have been a good idea to add the charge capability to MM3, so it can kill things. Still, since it's so fitting to Spark Chan's character it's something I woulda liked to explore. Although the moment's past, since we're over the violent story arcs.
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