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Topic Started: Aug 6 2011, 02:08 AM (3,283 Views)
maccrash21
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I'm just tired of him insulting everyone.
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Me too. And I probably would have said the same thing, but my thoughts were dominated by brutal images of stabbing him several times while breaking every bone in his body, so kudos to you! :bravo:


....Maybe I shouldn't say those things here.

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Might be smart not to. :P
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Maybe I should keep it short and simple. I haven't watched much anime, and that's pretty much the extent my opinion of it goes to.


Seriously? Wow, like really? Maybe you should read through the stuff you've said in this thread. Because I'm pretty sure you took things to borderline offensive and racist levels with your bashing of Anime earlier. Hypocrisy thy name is Mario Forums.

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Okay.

Morendo...kindly stop posting such insulting, annoying, attention-seeking posts or just leave.

I can tell no one here wants to put up with this crap, and seriously, I've had enough. From your 19 posts I already have had enough.

You have three options in my mind:
a) Leave
b) Stop insulting all of our intelligence
c) Tone it down.

You'll probably insult me for this post, but the funny thing is I could not care less.


Or... he could continue to express his feelings however he wants to. This is like if Morendo and a bunch of his friends joined the forum and then started saying to YOU "I don't like the way you guys express yourselves, so you can either LEAVE of start doing things the way we want you too. SUCK IT." You are not some great moral authority on who does or doesn't have the right to contribute THEIR OPINIONS. You guys have absolutely no respect for any point of view or lifestyle that conflicts with your own, and it's borderline embarrassing.

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Me too. And I probably would have said the same thing, but my thoughts were dominated by brutal images of stabbing him several times while breaking every bone in his body, so kudos to you!


So making no contribution to the actual topic while making vague references to physically harming a member is better than someone passionately reacting to the gross comments made earlier in the thread? This post is absolute garbage, irrelevant SPAM and threatening, but you're a moderator and Morendo is probably being threatened with Warns or Suspensions. Take a step back and look at what's going on here and try to tell me you're the one being reasonable and mature with a straight face. Really, I'd like to see that.



If anyone should be "sick of this shit" it should be Morendo, who has faced nothing but ignorance and jaded presumptions against him since joining this board. For a community that claims to be friendly and open you guys sure have a hard time accepting anyone who doesn't skip around with the same attitude and feelings you guys have. It's sickening.
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Nov 30 2011, 09:45 PM
If anyone should be "sick of this shit" it should be Morendo, who has faced nothing but ignorance and jaded presumptions against him since joining this board. For a community that claims to be friendly and open you guys sure have a hard time accepting anyone who doesn't skip around with the same attitude and feelings you guys have. It's sickening.
We're not going to be 'friendly and open' to people that join and immediately start insulting us. While maccrash probably shouldn't have taken matters into his own hands, what he said is still valid.

And now's when Mike replies with something that makes me look bad. 8)
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Seriously? Wow, like really? Maybe you should read through the stuff you've said in this thread. Because I'm pretty sure you took things to borderline offensive and racist levels with your bashing of Anime earlier. Hypocrisy thy name is Mario Forums.
When I said those things I was being accused of something I didn't do and my brothers (who are the ones that really did it) kept making fun of me for it. I couldn't react in real life without getting in more trouble, so I accidentally took out my anger through MF.

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So making no contribution to the actual topic while making vague references to physically harming a member is better than someone passionately reacting to the gross comments made earlier in the thread?


I've said it before and I'll say it again, I have mental problems. And surely what you say now contradicts with how Morendo oh-so-innocently expresses his opinion here. I respect how you're fighting for your friends here, and you can excuse me if I do as well. I'm not going to be nice to someone who comes in and starts insulting us all immediately. We have done NOTHING to you guys, (collectively you, Morendo, and Zack, though surprisingly he hasn't had much of a hand in this) and yet you attack us anyway.

We're basically all kids here, okay? Give us a little break if every single one of our posts aren't the most amazingly in-depth thing that could be said about the topic at the time. You seem to be forgetting we're all still learning this stuff. We don't know how to react properly sometimes, and yet we will discover this stuff. But I don't think that someone sitting on the sidelines and criticizing us as if we know everything we should know and yet blatantly ignore it will help much.

I'm sorry if we've offended you recently. But you've been insulting us for your whole stay here. Please try to be nice, or I can get a lot nastier. I don't want to, because when you're actually being nice you're a really neat person, but right now you have pissed me off. Lay off a little bit, okay? We're trying.

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If anyone should be "sick of this shit" it should be Morendo, who has faced nothing but ignorance and jaded presumptions against him since joining this board. For a community that claims to be friendly and open you guys sure have a hard time accepting anyone who doesn't skip around with the same attitude and feelings you guys have. It's sickening.
We're not going to be 'friendly and open' to people that join and immediately start insulting us. While maccrash probably shouldn't have taken matters into his own hands, what he said is still valid.

And now's when Mike replies with something that makes me look bad. 8)
So calling you out on things you've said with absolutely no reasoning or justification is people "joining and immediately insulting you"? What maccrash said was totally off base and not at all valid, as I touched on in the post where I actually discussed what he said and why it was inappropriate. Just throwing out sweeping statement about how you think something valid not only does nothing to make you seem right, it's just a huge waste of space.

It's also cute how you ignore everything that everyone you like does. I guess this problem shouldn't be surprising to anyone who's been on the forum long enough to gauge your base intelligence and skill as an administrator. One of your friends talks about wanting to break every bone in a person's body? Pffffttt, not even worth a passing glance. But one of my friends says that they expect you to actually flesh out your own statements, and it's a fucking war crime!

Nice attempt at trying to deflect out of your own wrongdoings by trying to pin a negative connotation on the real concerns I have with yours and others' behavior. It's a real cute tactic but it's not going to stop me from calling you on your shit. And you do me far too much credit; you make yourself look absolutely horrible with all the things you say and do without any need of my assistance.

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When I said those things I was being accused of something I didn't do and my brothers (who are the ones that really did it) kept making fun of me for it. I couldn't react in real life without getting in more trouble, so I accidentally took out my anger through MF.


When someone calls you out on downright offensive and racist things you say, don't pretend it never happened. If you have some sort of justification and want to apologize for the crap you were spewing during a tough time, than do that. Don't pretend like it never happened, don't pretend like it was ok for you to say it, and don't pretend like it's wrong of someone to call you out on demonstrated ignorance.

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I've said it before and I'll say it again, I have mental problems. And surely what you say now contradicts with how Morendo oh-so-innocently expresses his opinion here.


You realize that when you start half apologizing or justifying your actions it loses all value when you still try to pass the blame on to others. I don't think Morendo was acting inappropriately or outside of the rules. But, even if he were, why would you think the appropriate response would be to take it upon yourself to act twice as inappropriately as he was? Where's the reasoning for this? Where's the justification? Please, support your actions or grow up and admit your fault. Trying to blame anything else for what you do.

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I respect how you're fighting for your friends here, and you can excuse me if I do as well. I'm not going to be nice to someone who comes in and starts insulting us all immediately.


Your basing this on an absolutely incorrect assumption to try and make you feel better. I'm not "defending my friend". My friend does not need me to defend him. I'm taking legitimate issue with your behavior. This is about how you are acting and how Hissae is acting. It's not about trying to defend someone. I've directly addressed the exact issues I've had and explained why I take issue with it, so do not attempt to belittle my points by playing them off as anything else.

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We have done NOTHING to you guys, (collectively you, Morendo, and Zack, though surprisingly he hasn't had much of a hand in this) and yet you attack us anyway.


No no no no NO. This isn't what happens at ALL. I have not attacked you, period, end of discussion. I've actually be downright sweet to you, had conversations with you being pleasant. That doesn't mean I agree with everything you say. And if you say things that are downright offensive or ignorant I am going to tell you they are offensive or ignorant. That is not attacking you. That is far from attacking you. The only person I've just openly insulted was LikeaBoss, which I assume could have been avoided if anyone had tried to tell him the way he acted was inappropriate like you guys rush to do to me everytime I disagree with you.

SkittleE
 
We're basically all kids here, okay? Give us a little break if every single one of our posts aren't the most amazingly in-depth thing that could be said about the topic at the time. You seem to be forgetting we're all still learning this stuff. We don't know how to react properly sometimes, and yet we will discover this stuff. But I don't think that someone sitting on the sidelines and criticizing us as if we know everything we should know and yet blatantly ignore it will help much.


Then learn it. Don't try and blame other people. Don't sidestep the issue. Step up and appreciate the value of a dissenting opinion if that opinion is well constructed, and think about it. And that's not what he did at all. He asked you to justify the reasoning behind you statements and justified the reasoning behind his own. He challenged you to think about what you know or feel, and all you had to do was say "I didn't mean what I said earlier, I have not watched enough anime to construct an opinion on it." and left it at that. THAT is learning. There's no need to take what he said personally and claw an angry defense together for poorly constructed comments you made.

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I'm sorry if we've offended you recently. But you've been insulting us for your whole stay here. Please try to be nice, or I can get a lot nastier. I don't want to, because when you're actually being nice you're a really neat person, but right now you have pissed me off. Lay off a little bit, okay? We're trying.


You guys have been absolutely horrible to Zack, Morendo, and I recently. Of course we're offended. You always assume the worst of us and gang up with flat out mean statements about us as people. If you're going to attack anything, attack the opinion, not the person. But the way things are, you guys are being bullies. Teaming up on everyone who thinks differently than you do. The same kind of bullying that Zack and Morendo endured throughout their whole lives. They don't come to the internet to be introduced to the same closed-mind personalities that tormented them growing up. Appreciate the intelligent personalities and actual think about things instead of rushing to call the people who are attacking your opinions awful people. Accept the challenge, don't bully your way out of it.

I'm nice. I've been nice this whole time. Only person I'm not nice to is LikeaBoss. And I've lashed out at Hissae because he's such a hypocrite. Even throughout this post I've been centered on the actions and comments and not the people. But your actions are beyond insulting at this point. And I'm honestly really angry about it. Yet I'm still being nice. And if you don't believe me, ask Renee just how vicious and nasty I can be if I really feel like it. That's honestly not a good threat to make against me. Because if you're nasty to me, I will be nasty back.

So stop trying to pretend you're right in this thread and admit your faults, for everyone's sake. I've already admitted mine in LikeaBoss's thread, though Hissae taking action against certain members and not others as a whole is still a real issue that you refuse to admit.
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I'm sorry, but YOU seem to be ignoring the fact that at first we were all really nice to you guys. And then you were mean. We tried to ignore that. You were still mean. I'm not perfect by any means, and I'm not trying to sidestep my actions, but I'm not going to spend a whole argument profusely apologizing for my past wrongdoings. Don't pretend that you've been nice this whole time. What you call "nice" we call, "openly insulting us". And I do admit that Hissae does ignore our actions a little bit too much, but he's still a damn good admin compared to what he could be doing. We aren't being bullies who are close-minded to the world around us, we were provoked. It might have not been the kind of stuff that you guys are used to calling "provoking", but that's what we know.

You're a smart person, okay? I'm never going to win this. Pretty much every point you make besides you guys apparently being sweet and nice to us this whole time is true. But you can't stand there and say that if you were in my position, a thirteen year old girl with no friends besides the people who are here against a nineteen year old guy who is honestly incredibly smart and good at debating, you would just step down, no questions asked, and not try to prove your point at all.

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I have to say this. Skittle shouldn't it be you the one who steps down, you know after realizing that Mike is incredibly smart, good at debating and that you stand no chance?
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Well, it should go without saying I'm behind Mike. I don't think I personally started out attacking any of you though. When I came to the board ... a few days ago ... I made a few silly posts which were blown out of proportion because I happen to be a friend of Mike and Zack. I haven't really enjoyed the best company here since that time. Frankly it's quite obvious everyone is on edge. My posts weren't for the sake of attention getting as one person said earlier. My posts were indeed challenging you to back yourself up on your words. Maybe I could have been nicer? Yeah, probably maybe. However I'm pretty sure no matter what way I said it you'd still take some kind of smart issue with it. You have to be able to take responsibility for the things that you said in the past, either in the form of correcting or admitting them as mistakes. To deny their existence altogether is deny personal growth. We learn from the past.

Also you being 13 years old ...I really can't take sympathy with this. Yes you're 13, but the internet isn't a nursery either. I'm not going to question the integrity of your words simply because you're 13 but because they were poorly constructed. If you're so worried about your age and your experience ...then maybe you should avoid speaking in places where you will be challenged.
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I have to say this. Skittle shouldn't it be you the one who steps down, you know after realizing that Mike is incredibly smart, good at debating and that you stand no chance?
That was me stepping down. -_-

And I apologize, Morendo, we've been unfair to you.

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Seriously, find stuff where I'm insulting and mean to you that I haven't admitted. And don't come back with things where I'm disagreeing with what you say. You're taking my disagreements with you as personal insults, and that is being close minded.

Zack's been mean. Ok. Yeah, that's his fault. Not going to "defend" that. But that's him. That's not me. Don't paint a brush stroke and don't let personal feelings cloud issues of facts and opinions.

Your statements carry no weight of support or even detail. You throw out sweeping statements like "And I do admit that Hissae does ignore our actions a little bit too much, but he's still a damn good admin compared to what he could be doing", which is admitting a fault I pointed out and not producing any counterpoint to explain what good he does other than just he is. Your contentment is based entirely on your friendship, not in any fact or evidence. From someone who has no reason to associate a positive or negative feeling to his person, I react only to his actions, and they are not "good".

I don't even get what you're still trying to prove. You're not arguing any points, not supporting any of your opinions, you're just conceding every example I make but refusing to admit your faults. It doesn't make any sense and it's pointless stubbornness based again in personal feelings as opposed to the right and wrong of the situation.

But if you know I'm being smart and logical, and seem to be admitting I'm right, for the love of god just stop villainizing me. I'm not a horrible person, I don't kick puppies, I'm a 19 year old who spends his spare time volunteering with children who have no fathers, trying to give them someone they can trust look up to. I resent being called mean or a bad person because I don't agree with the way you conduct yourself
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I appreciate you apologizing to my friend and I am sorry if I come off as brash and aggressive when I am passionately disagreeing with some people's behavior.
Edited by Mike, Nov 30 2011, 11:40 PM.
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Let's see if this post actually gets approved.

Mike isn't fighting my battles. I'm an asshole, I'm a mean spirited guy when I choose to be. I'm pretty sure I haven't said I'm mean because you guys were mean to me, I'm mean because I'm an asshole. It's pretty plain and simple. Though, I don't really care for the fact that I'm constantly portrayed as a villain, I'm not going to say I'm an angel. I also haven't been a raging jerk every single time I post, that's you guys blowing my personality out of proportion. I've offered advice to people who needed it, I've sent support to some in pain.

Point is, I'm not expecting an apology because I won't give one either. So, you can take your anger out on my friends but, it makes you just as bad as the villain you've built me up to be.
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I'm one of those people that need time to calm down before truly admitting to being wrong. And honestly, I never thought you were that bad. Just Zack, and he wasn't being too bad lately either. I'm not good at wording my posts, and that can really give people the wrong impression of me. I'm not defending my actions, but I am trying to provide an explanation for them. Once again, I am sorry, and I am also a very stubborn person who takes a while to see every side of an issue when emotionally involved.


...Who wants to pretend like this thread never happened tomorrow?
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And wouldn't you know it, one of those same-time posts I despise. Look Zack, you can be a pretty decent guy, but we don't get to see much of that when talking to you, so I also apologize for blowing your personality out of proportion.


And your last line reminded me of Batman. Teehee!
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