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| bizness86 | Sep 26 2007, 05:59 AM Post #1 |
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The Retired Dungeon Master
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*if I don't finish this right away, I'll finish gradually *yep, I'm still under construction... :lol: , reply anyway Birth by Sleep (BBS), Fate of the Unknown, Xehanort, 'Ansem', Xemnas: If you didn't know, three different KH projects were announced for release on the three console devices: Mobile, Kingdom Hearts: Coded DS, Kingdom Hearts 358/2 PSP, Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep (<_< PSP is seriously like the suckiest console, why in the HELL would the more interesting of the titles be on the PSP...) You may wanna check them out on some sight (I first found them via Wikipedia). As well, check the endings for KH2 and KH2:FM http://youtube.com/watch?v=KTGPImkJDA8 - reference: khinsider.com First off, I'm obviously assuming that the Secret Ending BBS precedes the events of the current KH universe (I believe that the upcoming project has been confirmed as a prequel; however, I don't exactly recall the ending being confirmed as well) Every hint blatantly points to the old man and the dark masked warrior as being "lost master Xehanort" and his apprentice (as a matter of fact, I'm fairly sure that this is confirmed). Their stories eventually lead to the events of BBS, and Mickey is ominously witnessing the events of battle. First and foremost, I'm trying to form the vague relationship between all of the characters, and hypothetically, we know that the three knights have a somewhat close relationship (I'm assuming them as the three apprentices that seek Xehanort). I stated that the old man and the "doppleganger" are Xehanort and apprentice respectively. The only room of speculation is the role of Mickey. Now the most vague role which Mickey relates to any of the characters is one of a stranger to Xehanort and the knights alike; he may have just been another one of "many Keyblade masters" who just happened to be on the search of the 'rogue', or 'missing' Keyblade Master, or he could have just crossed paths with them. To put my feet in the shallows (To actually speculate), Mickey may in fact be the master who 'sends his three apprentices' which would imply that Terra, Aqua, and Ven were in fact familar with King Mickey to say the least, at most implying that the three were Mickey's apprentices. This would probably be a favored theory as this is the easiest to come across and it gives depth to the otherwise shallow character of King Mickey. It would also give Mickey a substantial and adequate reason for being present for the BBS battle, rather than some other Keyblade Master. Then again Mickey could have been sent randomly to aid the three apprentices. To actually diverge from the aforementioned thoery, Mickey could have been good friends with the master of the Three Apprentices; I could go out on a limb and say that Yen Sid was in fact the master which sent Terra and co. to find Xehanort and in turn, Mickey also looked after the trio (he would then be playing a similar role to that which he played in Kingdom Hearts 2 with Sora :D) As for any of them relating to Xehanort and apprentice as of BBS, maybe there is some relation to the eccentrical old crone and his mysterious, stalwart accomplice, but there is honestly nothing that I can see which I could work with. Maybe someone knew the apprentice, or was once an acquaintance of Xehanort. Who knows? We'll find out in due time. The beast which Terra was triumphantly boasting upon (He was so effing pimp...seriously) was the luster dragon from KH2 :P. Admit it! lmao, please don't try to prove me wrong...that's just actually my mental placeholder until they actually reveal the beast; it's big and shiny (and seemingly a Nobody). I'd hope that it'll be a boss, so then I could kick its ass and stand like a pimp along with Terra :cool: I'd have to now recall the captions which appeared in the BBS compilation. I now relate the following: "The lost two" - would obviously be Xehanort and apprentice "Memory of Xehanort" - This is something that I have been recently experimenting and I actually wanted to address in a fic which I'm writing. I believe this line strong pertains to the actions of Xehanort's personas is the current KH timeline. "Chasers" - This may refer to Terra, Aqua, and Ven? Or, I recall chaser (def.) as "key maker"... "Keyblade War...It all began with...Birth by Sleep" - A war happened after the events of "BBS." That's what this says...plainly. I'm thinking that after or during(?) BBS a war will start... "A sealed tale of truth...The fate of all occurs not by chance...The fate of all is inevitable...each of their fates...pass through and gather together." - None of the events that occur are by chance and that the events that occur were inevitable to beginning with...it implies that the events that happen probably should have been expected to affect KH and KH2...dunno "A new story awaits the awakening." aside from Lost Master Xehanort, there are other personas of Xehanort: - Ansem's apprentice Xehanort claimed to have NO memory of his past actions - 'Ansem' Xehanort's Heartless mirrors the appearance of Lost Master Xehanort and has a fascination with obtaining the knowledge (ultimately synonymous with power) and 'darkness' (which he uses synonymously with knowledge and power) of Kingdom Hearts - Xemnas has also affliated himself with the wonders of Kingdom Hearts. More inconspicuously concerned himself with sleep and memory (in the KH universe sleep often refers to the subconscience contacting the consquence about the 'overall' fate...I'll explain later) The things that I say in the next couple of paragraphs go into an entirely new theory and I will be as vague as I can with it. I'll state this about Xehanort's Heartless; it seems that even though 'Ansem' is able to express a 'free will,' his thoughts seemed wholly skewed by the will of darkness. This should show that even if he has the ability to scheme, his ultimate goal is to spread darkness. I really don't want to go to far into the next ideas this next paragraph. I think that Darkness is an entity, it has a will. That will is to spread. I'll say that Heartless are darkness embodied, or each and every Heartless is collectively and individually Darkness. It uses Heartless as its body and it moves and spreads until it ultimately covers everything. That's what I think. I think that Xehanort's Heartless acted on a higher level in carrying on the will of darkness; as in he was using a more complex method in achieving the same outcome. With that, I believe that Xehanort was not indeed as different as any other Heartless (I mean, he was completely obsessed with 'Darkness', he wasn't that obsessed in his previous body; I believe that Xemnas was obsessed, but with something...). I don't think that Kingdom Hearts was Xemnas' sole priority. I recall that one of the scenes in KH2 FM contained a conversation between Xigbar and Zexion, about the Room of Sleep(?). There were three of these rooms/chambers: Sleep, Awakening, Remembrance They all have a theme which would all relate to sleeping, waking up and remembering something. What would happen that would allow someone to wake up and remember? DREAMS!! All of this is written everywhere in the KH universe. Hero's with sleeping potential awaken and acknowlegde/remember the strength hidden within their hearts. Sora sleeps and wakes up not knowing what happened in Castle Oblivion (he recalls his broken memories) I believe that a priority which Xemnas held with a prestige was the priority to regain the memory which was lost to him. Why wouldn't 'Ansem' be concerned with recalling his memory. I do not know. 'Ansem' was a Heartless, and a threatening one at that, his heart would have been one that comprehended the darkness which he faced and embraced its will unquestionably. So, perhaps his sole priority was to carry out the will of darkness; all of his cunning would be directed and spreading darkness throughout the galaxy. I believe that Xemnas was reading his dreams to jog his memory, or alternatively Ansem's apprentice, Xehanort, may have had these dreams and Xemnas plans to study these thoroughly. Xigbar stated that Xemnas would insist on entering the Chamber of Sleep, and then he would talk to someone or something (Aqua's armor, of which would not talk back). I think that Xemnas used the armor as a catalyst for a dream. In these dreams, he would course his actions. So Xemnas was basically doing what I'm trying to do with the secret ending, put the pieces together until it all comes forth. "You look a lot like him." - Xemnas Roxas looked like Sora. Roxas looked like Ven...Xemnas cherished Roxas as an element to remembrance...Xemnas wore armor constructed from hearts in boss battles and rode various forms of a lustrous Wyrm Nobody (no this is NOT the name of the dragon boss. What is its name?) A reminiscent of the armored keyblade warriors and the slain beast, all which he "dreamt." Xemnas dreamt of an elderly key blader who wore similar garms to his counterpart 'Ansem'. He must be related to Xemnas, thus Xemnas creates a Kingdom Hearts. Constructing a Kingdom Hearts would be advantagous in using the other Nobodies; the Nobodies would have a reason to follow him. Organization XIII was the ideal guise to further is analysis. Caslte Oblivion would have been specifically key in observing the nature of memory and cognition. Namine, considering her abilities with Sora memories, was a viable study. Whilst the other trustworthy members were sent out of the way to 'observe the traitorous activity,' Axel would have been the only wildcard. Notably, Axel was exceedingly close to Xemnas' keepsake, Roxas. It would be safe to assume that no one had any real idea what Xemnas was plotting with this. Speculation would allow me to exclude the other five apprentices of Ansem the Wise in a vuge sense, and Saix. Xaldin, Lexaeus, and Vexen, although Lexaeus would have probably been the most insightful of the three. Xaldin seemed like a cornerstone of Org. XIII and nothing more (the knight in Xemnas' Chess). He would have known either every detail, or little to nothing. Vexen may have actually had some insight on what Xemnas had been plotting, but would have been to fearful to express this to anyone. I recall in CoM, I feel like he was ready to spill every single detail to Sora after realizing that Sora could probably kill them all. Lexaeus seems like the type of people who would constantly think about 'overall structure.' I would have known about Xemnas using Organization XIII as a cover and be morally loyal to it. This would differ some with Saix, as Saix did not seem to be loyal to Organization XIII for morals; Saix would have agreed to further the Organization's ploy in exchange for his heart. Xemnas either would have probably been lucidly truthful with every (or most) aspect, or told him just enough to know that he'd be getting his heart. That's it. This is why Saix acted with such shrewd precision towards ally and foe alike. From the KH2FM scene, its obvious that Xigbar knew enough to keep his mouth shut, save a few people, and Zexion, would have been undeniably smart enough to pick up on things that Xigbar would jeer around with. 'Ansem' sought to further Xehanort's quest for knowledge, which led to darkness. Xemnas sought to acquire the memory which his 'Xehanort' lost. Both sought a sense of knowledge; 'Ansem' believed that the absolute way to achieve knowledge was through the Darkness of Kingdom Hearts; Xemnas sought Kingdom Hearts as a means of power; he felt as if he should do it, and emersed himself into this idealistic concept of Organization XIII and an 'empire of nothingness.' The relation between these more determined personas, or the two who seem more conscious of their 'fate', is that they both seek to obtain the power of Kingdom Hearts to expand their knowledge and to reshape the world. Ansem's apprentice Xehanort sought to expand his knowledge. Perhaps, Lost Master Xehanort deserted to reshape the world... You still with me? That's a lot... This ultimately leads to this: Terra is Ansem's Apprentice Xehanort. Lost Master Xehanort is Ansem's Apprentice Xehanort. Terra + Lost Master Xehanort = Ansem's Apprentice Xehanort. Come on now! Well, its not set in stone...Terra's slight resemblance to Apprentice Xehanort...Xehanort had almost superhuman attributes (Secret Ansem Report 2(1?)). Lost Master Xehanort with 'Ansem' garms. They merged somehow. I think about Riku 'Ansem' and Riku in 'Ansem' guise...I may actually try to elaborate, but I'll give in for now... [/font] |
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| LaminateStasis | Sep 26 2007, 09:52 AM Post #2 |
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Architect of Destruction
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-ADMIN NOTE- As you stated yourself, two of the three new games are on non-sony consoles, and Chain of Memories was on the Advance, so this has been moved to Multi-Platform Games This is a nifty little section you got going here Bizzy, keep updating, and if I get more time, I'll put some more thought into a response :P |
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| Ryusuke | Sep 26 2007, 10:41 AM Post #3 |
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Writer/Voice Actor/Confused Phantom
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Yeah, that's what I thought, as well. =O He'd probably tossed away the name "Xehanort" because he hated said Keyblade Master. Terra = Ansem/Xemnas |
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| bizness86 | Sep 26 2007, 11:39 AM Post #4 |
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The Retired Dungeon Master
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didn't say that :o !!! I say: Terra + Lost Master X = Ansem's apprentice X and 'Ansem' + Xemnas would probably = Ansem's Apprentice X :P unless something "mysterious" happens...ooooh (glares at all-knowing fic :)) to distribute... Terra + Lost Master X =unknown circumstance> Apprent. X + memory lost =Heartless Transformation> 'Ansem' + Xemnas |
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