| Battle 3: Buster Sword vs. Scarborough Fair (First Round) | |
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| Topic Started: Oct 10 2010, 10:29 PM (512 Views) | |
| andaryu | Oct 10 2010, 10:29 PM Post #1 |
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Battle 3: Buster Sword vs. Scarborough Fair (First Round) Contestant Data: Buster Sword Origin: Final Fantasy VII ![]() Description: It serves as Cloud Strife's main weapon, and was wielded before him by Zack Fair and Angeal Hewley. The Buster Sword is classified as an enormous broadsword (though it has more in common with a backsword). Despite its size, Cloud claims it's not that heavy. From tip to handle, it is approximately five to six feet long, with a single-edged, enormous blade approximately one foot wide. Its original finish sports a bolted, steel base and blade, and there are two holes on the blade near the hilt. Pros: - Incredible power. - Single-edged blade able to cut through nearly anything. Cons: - Extremely heavy and large --------- Scarborough Fair Origins: Bayonetta ![]() Description: A set of four, count 'em, four guns used by the Umbran witch Bayonetta herself. Each have a name; 'Parsley (ever joyous), Sage (ever strong), Rosemary (ever reminiscent), and Thyme (ever courageous).' They style a stunning burgundy-red color with gold and silver chains at the end, golden trim, leather on the handle for comfort, and a nice design topped with a jewel on each gun. The name of the set is in reference of an old English song by the same name. Pros: - Extremely high rate of fire - Bullets inflict magical damage - Having a gun on each limb is pretty useful; it'd be kind of hard to miss. - Can be used with punches and kicks Cons: - If you're not a powerful witch, the Scarborough Fair may be a bit difficult to use. - Would be difficult to shoot something heavily armored. - Can be difficult to use four guns in such a way. Beware of tripping. BATTLE 3 BEGIN! Edited by andaryu, Oct 11 2010, 12:23 PM.
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| Synesthesia | Oct 11 2010, 10:55 AM Post #11 |
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Wouldn't it make more sense? |
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| andaryu | Oct 11 2010, 11:38 AM Post #12 |
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I thought it would make more sense for it to be the person who actually used the weapon. I mean, most of these weapons normal people couldn't even use them. Who could actually lift the Buster Sword? Who else but a witch could use four guns the way that they were designed to be used? |
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| Polantaris | Oct 11 2010, 12:09 PM Post #13 |
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Die pig!
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Honestly, it's your contest so you can set the rules, but here's my opinion on it: In every game, the wielder of whatever weapon can do a lot of crap that's more than just the weapon itself. For example, in the battle with the Soul Eater, I never mentioned it because I thought it was just that weapon, but Tir McDohl, the bearer of the Soul Eater, is also a master of Bo Staves, and can do a ton of shit with them. If you factor that in, plus his abilities, plus the rune itself, plus the ability to add other runes, Tir is way more powerful than that one blade, but I was going just on the Rune itself. I would think if we were going based on the weapon, it would be the weapon's ability, not how good the wielder is with it. Cloud can do all that stuff, but could he do it when you started the game with JUST the Buster Sword? No. He couldn't. By the time you could do all those abilities, you had plenty of other weapons equipped by him. The Buster Sword is the first weapon you equip, and technically the weakest out of all his weapons (Unless it's one of those games where it gets an upgrade, I honestly don't remember). Same thing with Bayonetta. Sure, she's got all kinds of insane powers, but the Time stuff has to do with her being a Witch, not due to the guns. When she's equipped with ANY weapon, she's able to do the dodging Time Dilation. It's your contest, so you set the rules, but that's how I feel. It's a weapon contest, not a character contest. If it were a Character contest, there would be a ton of different things we could have done, or perhaps a "Character WITH X Weapon Contest", then even more so. To the battle: Noteworthy information: Most of the ranged stuff for the Buster Sword is Limit Break. Except for the Materia slots (Did the original Buster Sword HAVE any? I thought it had none), if Bayonetta (Or whoever had the guns) dodged the one Limit Break, the Buster Sword would be completely screwed. Edited by Polantaris, Oct 11 2010, 12:19 PM.
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| andaryu | Oct 11 2010, 12:21 PM Post #14 |
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Ok that makes sense Polan. How about this, let's say that all the wielders of these weapons are regular, average people. However, they do have the ability to wield the weapons effectively. So even though the Buster Sword is huge the wielder could still use it effectively. And even though the Master Sword requires the bearer or the Triforce of Courage, it can still be used by the regular person. So in this specific case, no materia is equipped in the Buster Sword with no limit breaks and the Scarborough Fair is only cable of firing large amounts of magical bullets and of course physical attacks with them as well. Edited by andaryu, Oct 11 2010, 12:21 PM.
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| Polantaris | Oct 11 2010, 12:23 PM Post #15 |
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Die pig!
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Going by that, so long as the wielder of the Scarborough Fair has enough speed, the Buster Sword is done for. The Buster Sword can hit big, but it's slow, so someone with enough speed who isn't caught in a corner will win. |
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| andaryu | Oct 11 2010, 04:30 PM Post #16 |
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Yeah I still think the Scarborough Fair would win. The massive amount of bullets would overwhelm the Buster Sword bearer, and even if he got close physical attacks with the Scarborough would still be quick enough to react accordingly. Remember to read the posts everyone please (I'm referring to the slight change in rules about the wielder), who here thinks the Buster Sword would win? Edited by andaryu, Oct 11 2010, 05:21 PM.
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| Enrei | Oct 12 2010, 01:38 AM Post #17 |
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Chinese Gold Farmer
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My vote is for the guns. The buster sword would slow the guy down, but it might be able to take a few bullets, if he blocked Monster Hunter style, and with multiple guns, you could shoot the bullets in a way that you can't block them all at once. |
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| Super Slash | Oct 12 2010, 01:40 AM Post #18 |
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I'm still going with the Buster Sword (I hope I understood the rules correctly). What's stopping Cloud or whoever is wielding it from using something like Haste on himself to nullify the effects of slow time? Although I guess that's going too far since it's got nothing to do with the weapon itself. |
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| andaryu | Oct 12 2010, 01:44 AM Post #19 |
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The rules have been augmented slightly. Here's whats new: All the wielders of these weapons are regular, average people. The wielders are no longer the original users so they do not have any extended abilities outside what the weapon itself is capable of. However, they do have the ability to wield the weapons effectively. So even though the Buster Sword is huge the wielder could still use it effectively. And even though the Master Sword requires the bearer or the Triforce of Courage, it can still be used by the regular person. So in this specific case, no materia is equipped in the Buster Sword with no limit breaks and the Scarborough Fair is only cable of firing large amounts of magical bullets (no time effecting) and of course physical attacks with them as well. Edited by andaryu, Oct 12 2010, 01:46 AM.
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| Super Slash | Oct 12 2010, 01:52 AM Post #20 |
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In that case, I think the Scarborough would win. If it's capable of firing magic bullets *and* physical attacks, I don't think the Buster Sword has much of a chance. |
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