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| Best forbidden fictional couples; Are Nikki and Helen the best of these? And who else might compete, gay or straight? | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Apr 7 2014, 06:51 PM (201 Views) | |
| ElspethR | Apr 7 2014, 06:51 PM Post #1 |
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If I was giving out awards for this, who else would be in the running, and if Nikki and Helen should win - why? This fascinates me as if you've looked at the link with my signature, you'll know I'm rather into forbidden or taboo love, especially if it's same sex and there's another reason for it to be a problem; and I love to watch the arc of burgeoning feelings and the realisation of them in both sense. We've had a gay priest in the mid 1990s, in Priest - personally that film has long been forgotten and I didn't resonate with it, I think the cruise culture didn't help, and nor am I Catholic. Quills has another priest story - this time with a laundry lass in an asylum, although the relationship with an infamous inmate is also potentially sexual and oversteps boundaries. I think there's definite parallels with Bad Girls; and I think it's worth a post on its own. Tipping the Velvet was important in that it was the first post coming out gay story I read (and soon watched as a short TV series) but the odds aren't as high for Nan and Kitty and I don't think they are as complex as Nikki and Helen. I also wonder if in Victorian theatrical worlds, being with another woman wasn't so shocking. I think it's harder for Helen who is not still in her teens when she realised she loves women. The L Word is also a long running multicast TV series, but I never felt the draw to this show as I did Bad Girls. Jenny's early story might be analogous to Helen's in that a new job puts her among lesbians for the first time, but being engaged to a man, Jenny nor Helen expects to fall for one. But the forbidden nature, the closeness of being in prison was never matched by Showtime's show. Both have moody photoshoots, but happily, no hairdryer slow motion in Bad Girls. Being British, I thought I may enjoy Lip Service, the Glaswegian ensemble cast drama which is still running. Again, nothing to compare with Bad Girl's forbiddenness - perhaps Frankie's feelings for Kat who's settled with the annoying Heather Peace; but I never really emotionally connected to the show, which like Queer as Folk, threw us into the "casual sex as a cover up for intimacy fear" of a protagonist to open with, and it was weeks before I saw the predictable trajectory away from this - by which time, I'd half written off both shows as trying to be Skins like in its urban, shocking, sexualised chic. Joanna Trollope's Village Affair is same sex and about a married woman - this time with children - who finds herself drawn to the lord of the manor's daughter. I felt there was judgment of the affair, even of their both being women, and had queries over the writing quality. Enough for now - think of any more? Any comments on these? |
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Elspeth author of Parallel Spirals http://parallel-spirals.webs.com/ | |
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| Prairiegirl | Apr 8 2014, 02:02 AM Post #2 |
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Homeland - Carrie the bipolar CIA operative and Brody the Muslim married terrorist have to be at the top of your list. Yes, straight - but totally bad and doomed yet the feelings grow and they risk their lives for each other. It is hard to knock them off the top of the list. Jamie and Cerici Lannister from Game of Thrones last night - totally forbidden - sister and brother - but no real development of the story there with that one. Dating myself - Buffy and Angel. Yes, the boyfriend who occasionally wants to kill you and it is your job to stake these kinds of folks through the heart. Depends on whether you find fangs sexy I guess. You could also throw in True Blood on the vampire genre, at least the first couple of seasons. Fitz and Olivia - Scandal. Another one of the small number of shows I sort of keep up with. There is a heartbreaking scene where they are riding the campaign bus and Olivia reaches out her little finger to Fitz and he holds it because it is all they can do. I haven't seen Quills and I don't really see much of this in the L Word. I thought the plot was so inconsistent - no consistency of plot or character - so I don't see much of it there. I have only seen a bit of Lip Service and nothing of Villiage Affairs but you have a whole genre of lesbian movies to pick from. Incredible Story of Two Girls, Kiss Me, Desert Hearts, Personal Best, etc etc seem to fit this. Frankie and Erica from Wentworth but Frankie is so stroppy that it doesn't have hardly any of what you are talking about. But I think a lot of lesbian movies have exactly this plot. |
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| magical_mist | Apr 9 2014, 09:45 PM Post #3 |
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A quick one from me...the movie Bound has a sort of forbidden lesbian relationship between a woman married to a gangster and a ex-con. |
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| Prairiegirl | Apr 9 2014, 10:46 PM Post #4 |
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Ohh - Bound is a good one - butch con, mobster moll - who does boys as a job, girls for love... |
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