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Heartless [SL]; groovygirl [Feb 12, 2006]
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groovygirl Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 7:09 am

I love, love, loved this movie.

The music, the scenery, Simone's bare back, the romantic story, the accents, Simone's bare back--it was all great.

I even had to make use of the English subtitles, because some of the accents were really hard to understand-Simone's especially. Sometimes it didn't seem possible that what she said and what the subtitles said were the same. By the way, no f-words were mentioned.

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mjnet Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 11:38 am

I'm a fan too. I thought it was great, funny and sad at the same time and she looked totally gorgeous!!

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abzug Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 2:27 pm

I just ordered the DVD of this movie from Amazon UK, so I'm glad to hear its good (I was hoping it was just decent, so good is even better!). I'll post my thoughts once I've gotten to watch it (probably not for at least a week, if not two, depending on shipping).

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badkir Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 4:16 pm

Hi, I only watched abit of it. Was really good. I'm considering getting it but I don't know if it was THAT good if you get me.

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Late Starter Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 7:07 pm

hi there guys was browsin when i saw this, i must say it was a lot better than i that it was goin 2 b only because angus deyton was n it, simone definately made it worth watchin. when i saw it, it was the first time i had saw her with really long hair & i must say she looked stunnin, the story took me threw many emotions, i found it 2 b a wonderful heart warmin story.

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abzug Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 9:35 pm

Can I just say, Amazon UK is fast! My Heartless dvd just arrived--whoohoo! I'm watching tonight. Monarch of the Glen will just have to wait. Although I am sure I could squeeze both in if I had to....

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abzug Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 3:41 am

Double-posting, because now I've actually watched this movie, and it was quite good! Good off-kilter sense of humor, fairly charming characters. Overall enjoyable. Its also the first time I've seen Simone kiss anyone outside of BG, and I gotta say, she just does not have chemistry with male actors the way she does with Mandana Jones.

Also, does anyone know if she was pregnant during the filming of this? Because she just seemed, so, well, voluptuous. I mean, this was the first time I had seen her in a bra, but still! I was drooling rather uncontrollably. I tried to do some screen caps but failed miserably. I'll try later and if I manage it, I'll post them in the naked Helen thread.

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groovygirl Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 5:52 am

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Also, does anyone know if she was pregnant during the filming of this? Because she just seemed, so, well, voluptuous. I mean, this was the first time I had seen her in a bra, but still! I was drooling rather uncontrollably
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I've wondered that myself, but after careful research , don't think it's true.

Here are some facts--

1. MOTG filmed through Sept.

2. Simone went right from filming MOTG to Heartless

3. She got pregnant in late Dec.

4. Parts of Heartless were filmed on the Isle of Skye

5. Simone's daughter is named Skye


I don't know how long it took to film Heartless, but I doubt it was two months. Maybe she just gained a little weight--it sure looked good on her!!

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Jeanna Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 8:24 pm

Flawlessly reasoned. Thank you, detective. :)

Now, I have to get this dvd. A lovely friend burned season 6 of Monarch for me. And am looking SO forward to Wire in the Blood (very big here on BBC-A, and I've been a Robson Green fan for ages as well). Are any of the other series Simone has done available on dvd?

I've become such a fan watching Helen Stewart. And the scots accent has left me quite vulnerable I'm afraid. <G>

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Porcupine Girl Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 10:21 pm

Jeanna wrote:
Flawlessly reasoned. Thank you, detective. :)

Now, I have to get this dvd. A lovely friend burned season 6 of Monarch for me. And am looking SO forward to Wire in the Blood (very big here on BBC-A, and I've been a Robson Green fan for ages as well). Are any of the other series Simone has done available on dvd?

I've become such a fan watching Helen Stewart. And the scots accent has left me quite vulnerable I'm afraid. <G>


I'm waiting on my copy of Heartless as well, ordered it two weeks ago from Amazon. Are you saying Wire in the Blood is on BBCA? Are they current or years behind like BG's?

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Jeanna Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 10:44 pm

Well...how long has Wire been going? I thought it had only been a few yrs. (since Robson Green was doing the riveting "Touching Evil" before that and before it was killed by being bought, like "Cracker" e.g., and turned into an american version which didn't last long at all.) I kind of think it's current, but am not sure, I don't get BBC on my cable service. PBS is way behind in showing "Monarch of the Glen," but I believe BBC-A was pretty much up to date with that from what I've heard. I'm surprised "Bad Girls" wasn't picked up by american tv before this (A&E runs Spooks)--how long now before we get a watered down american version? I kind of shudder to think about it.

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Jeanna Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 11:03 pm

And, yes, Wire in the Blood is currently on BBC-A, my friend Barbara is hooked on it...so I'll get it on tape eventually. She's also kind enuf to do The L Word for me. :)

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Porcupine Girl Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 8:58 pm

abzug wrote:
Double-posting, because now I've actually watched this movie, and it was quite good! Good off-kilter sense of humor, fairly charming characters. Overall enjoyable. Its also the first time I've seen Simone kiss anyone outside of BG, and I gotta say, she just does not have chemistry with male actors the way she does with Mandana Jones.

Also, does anyone know if she was pregnant during the filming of this? Because she just seemed, so, well, voluptuous. I mean, this was the first time I had seen her in a bra, but still! I was drooling rather uncontrollably. I tried to do some screen caps but failed miserably. I'll try later and if I manage it, I'll post them in the naked Helen thread.


I just got done watching Heartless and very much enjoyed it. Besides the obvious reason I enjoyed it, I thought Amanda's mother-in-law was awesome.

While watching some of the music scenes it kind of reminded me of a movie I once stumbled upon on HBO which I had never heard of before, but I couldn't turn off. It's called Songcatcher. Has anyone ever seen it? I thought it was very well done. It is set in Appalachia, where a college professor of musicology goes to study the Scots-Irish mountain music that had endured there for years. Aidan Quinn was in it and it even had a little lesbian story line included.

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abzug Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 9:24 pm

Porcupine Girl wrote:
It's called Songcatcher. Has anyone ever seen it? I thought it was very well done. It is set in Appalachia, where a college professor of musicology goes to study the Scots-Irish mountain music that had endured there for years. Aidan Quinn was in it and it even had a little lesbian story line included.

I loved this movie. I even bought the soundtrack, which is spectacular. And the lesbian storyline was so unexpected, so it was a real treat. Definitely rent it if you have a chance.

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Evangelist Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 10:02 pm

Jeanna wrote:
Well...how long has Wire been going? I thought it had only been a few yrs. (since Robson Green was doing the riveting "Touching Evil" before that and before it was killed by being bought, like "Cracker" e.g., and turned into an american version which didn't last long at all.) I kind of think it's current, but am not sure, I don't get BBC on my cable service. PBS is way behind in showing "Monarch of the Glen," but I believe BBC-A was pretty much up to date with that from what I've heard. I'm surprised "Bad Girls" wasn't picked up by american tv before this (A&E runs Spooks)--how long now before we get a watered down american version? I kind of shudder to think about it.


Wire in the Blood is currently in production on the 4th series...according to Robson's site, it's likely to be broadcast in the UK later in the Spring...which means that we won't likely see it on BBCA until Summer or Fall.

BBCA has only broadcast up through Series 6 of MotG....Series 7 is scheduled for September 2006.

And...Bad Girls has been licensed for production here in the US....though I can't for the life of me see how anyone could do it justice. It would be simply impossible to recreate the chemistry that Simone and Mandana had.

As for why it BG hasn't been picked up by another channel before now? Uh...I'd venture to say that they reasons why we're all so crazy about it, are the exact same reasons why it hasn't been picked up before now. US television hasn't exactly been kind or welcoming to gay and lesbian characters and story lines, with the exception of pay cable like HBO and Showtime...and they're more likely to create their own versions as Showtime did with Queer As Folk.

As for A&E and Spooks....they seem to have gone toward more reality based programming....and I haven't the slightest idea when, if ever, we'll see Series 4 of Spooks on A&E. It's a shame really, as A&E co-produces the series...and I thought the 4th was just as good, if not better than any of the previous 3.

And just so I don't go completely off-topic. I just saw Heartless...and I really enjoyed it. I thought it to be a lovely fluffy little love story....and the Scottish countryside seems to play almost as big a part as either Simone or Angus.

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groovygirl Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 5:02 pm

Getting back to Heartless

Is there a traditional aspect of the balloon release (at both the dad's funeral and mom's remarriage) and the one glass of champagne (at the wedding)??

I get the symbolism of it, just wondered if it's traditional.

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groovygirl Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 5:26 am

Does anyone know what kind of fish Amanda gave Harry, and if it is usually served that way? I had the same reaction that he did when she plopped the plate down--Yuck!!

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Jeanna Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 2:57 am

abzug wrote:
Porcupine Girl wrote:
It's called Songcatcher. Has anyone ever seen it? I thought it was very well done. It is set in Appalachia, where a college professor of musicology goes to study the Scots-Irish mountain music that had endured there for years. Aidan Quinn was in it and it even had a little lesbian story line included.

I loved this movie. I even bought the soundtrack, which is spectacular. And the lesbian storyline was so unexpected, so it was a real treat. Definitely rent it if you have a chance.


Thanks for recommending this. I just checked it out of the library yesterday. It seems a bit of a lesbian project all around. There are several actresses in the film who also happen to be gay, two of whom I met when I worked in NYC.

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Porcupine Girl Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 3:31 am

Jeanna wrote:
abzug wrote:
Porcupine Girl wrote:
It's called Songcatcher. Has anyone ever seen it? I thought it was very well done. It is set in Appalachia, where a college professor of musicology goes to study the Scots-Irish mountain music that had endured there for years. Aidan Quinn was in it and it even had a little lesbian story line included.

I loved this movie. I even bought the soundtrack, which is spectacular. And the lesbian storyline was so unexpected, so it was a real treat. Definitely rent it if you have a chance.


Thanks for recommending this. I just checked it out of the library yesterday. It seems a bit of a lesbian project all around. There are several actresses in the film who also happen to be gay, two of whom I met when I worked in NYC.


Wow, didn't know that, thanks for the additional info, glad you like it.

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COOLUK1 Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 8:14 am
Songcatcher

Not seen this film, so Googled it ...

lnteresting...the wonderful Janet McTeer who stars in the film played Vita Sackville West in the BBC's PORTRAIT OF MARRIAGE...

..isn't that right 'Sackville'?

I'll have to track down a copy of Songcatcher ~sounds really good!

COOL

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Late Starter Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 1:11 am

ive jus been watchin Heartless n i completely 4got this but amanda's children r called thomas & sean i remember laughin about this the 1st time i heard that but it made me laugh even more this time around i cant believe i 4got

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stunning_simone Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 4:20 am

hehe i got the dvd for my b'day from my sister andi never noticed about the name faxs for pointing it out lol

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bluesycat Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 2:20 am

I finally watched my copy of Heartless and ended up liking it more than I thought like most of you all.

Of course, with Simone looking so good it would be hard not to like the film. I thought her acting was very good. She is so good at the smoldering, controlled emotion thing. Not as good, IMO, when she has to let loose like the scene where she gets hysterical after Harry tells her that he has her husband's heart. Here some other observations:

Her youngest boy, Sean, was so darn cute and charismatic. He was good enough so you hardly noticed he never said anything. Of course, the payoff was good when he finally told Harry to "Bugger off"

Can Scotland always look as good? How beautiful it all was.

I def. had to suspend belief that Amanda could fall for Harry so quickly (he was there, what...4 or 5 days?) and within months of her husband dying. I know Angus is not my type, but really?

Simone has very lesbian hands.
http://www.curvemag.com/Detailed/51.html

I liked how Simone was so unglam, seemed to make sense in this little town. But I still had to laugh at her stromping around in those boots when Harry first sees her and those green socks she wore around the house.

One of my favorite scenes was when Amanda asked if Harry was married. I liked how Simone did the whole raised eyebrow thing and eyeroll. How their argument continued as they brushed teeth and undressed for bed. I agree with abzug that Simone was deliciously voluptous...too bad they stayed pretty tight on her face in that scene.

I loved how Simone looked lying on the ground looking up at the sky. So gorgeous. And don't forget to "mind the ditch"

All in all, a great film for Simone fans IMO and an entertaining one for everyone else.

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notsuchabadgirl Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 10:21 am

I received a copy of this dvd, last week from a VERY good friend
I loved everything about it!
The story was brilliant, funny and touching at the same time, the Scottish scenery was breathtaking, the two little boys who played the parts of Amanda's sons were just too cute for words, and as for Simone herself !!!!!! what else is there to say!!!!!

And of course there was Angus Deayton, but the less said about him the better....... I do however had to admit he played his part very well!

So thanks once again to the extremely nice person who sent it to me

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Late Starter Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 12:42 pm

NSABG ur very luck honey wish i had friend like that

i also loved this film, i was surprised at angus' actin, he was a lot better than i expected.

Simone was absolutely breathtakin the lookin up at the sky smile, the pink dress (yes i did say pink i hate the colour but all of a sudden have become a fan of it), i loved the jimjam's rain coat & wellies, Oh & the weddin dress im lost 4 words.

The boys names made me laugh, but Sean tellin angus 2 'bugger off' had me giggling.

There is so much 2 like about it & oh yea the green dressin gown

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notsuchabadgirl Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 1:14 pm

Yes Lou I am indeed very lucky!

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loonysarah Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 1:20 pm

Me to, the postman dropped one on my doormat last week aswell

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Late Starter Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 1:20 pm

where do u guys find these friends 2

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notsuchabadgirl Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 1:22 pm

Late Starter wrote:
where do u guys find these friends 2


Ummmm????? Plymouth seems to be a good place to look for them!
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loonysarah Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 1:23 pm

Don't worry fleegle i have a feeling your postman will be kind to you either tomorrow or wednesday

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Late Starter Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 1:24 pm

really i need 2 find people in Plymouth

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loonysarah Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 1:26 pm

Ignore this post lmao

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Late Starter Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 1:31 pm

it was in the wrong place.

the psot man is comin 2 visit me again im such a lucky girl u should of seen what i got the last time the postman visited me im still smilin

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loonysarah Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 1:33 pm

Was that from a very good friend in w'hampton by any chance

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notsuchabadgirl Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 1:34 pm

loonysarah wrote:
Was that from a very good friend in w'hampton by any chance


Hey!!!!!!

I live there

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Late Starter Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 1:36 pm

it was indeed Lambchop, the pressie was so cute it is sittin on top of my tv

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loonysarah Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 1:38 pm

*jumps up and down* singing, i know who sent it, i know who sent it

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Late Starter Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 1:39 pm

u do WHO!!!!! mine want signed

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loonysarah Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 1:40 pm

Lier lmao, Nsabg knows more than shes letting on

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Late Starter Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 1:41 pm

what ever do u mean Lambchop ??

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loonysarah Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 1:43 pm

Take no notice i've Louitis remember, conversations like these can go on forever lmao

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Late Starter Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 1:45 pm

that they can u should read the Lambchop & Fleegle thread Louitis hits there all the time

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loonysarah Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 1:47 pm

Really?? wheres that i've never been

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Late Starter Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 1:48 pm

u can find it in havin a laugh honey, dont no why

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loonysarah Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 1:53 pm

Ok, so i'm confused who's Fleegle??

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Late Starter Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 1:56 pm

i dont actually know so wierd person that cant remember anythin her brian is like a collinder information does in then it seeps out the sides

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loonysarah Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 1:58 pm

And Lambchop, i bet shes nice (just a guess)

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Late Starter Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 2:00 pm

she is very nice honey, not as innocent as she whats people 2 believe thou

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loonysarah Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 2:05 pm

i bet she is, i bet it's that fleegle fault

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Late Starter Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 2:06 pm

she wood probably say that if u asked her yes

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loonysarah Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 2:11 pm

Fleegle would have the cheek to deny it i spose

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Late Starter Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 2:14 pm

that she wood yes u see she is sweet & innocent & smiles shyly alot

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loonysarah Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 2:21 pm

Sweet...YES Innocent NO!! (she can smile shyly as often as she likes )

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Late Starter Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 2:23 pm

lmao ill remember 2 tell her that

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loonysarah Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 2:24 pm

You do that

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Late Starter Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 2:33 pm

we both no i wont remember lmao

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loonysarah Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 2:39 pm

I'll tell her myself then

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Late Starter Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 2:42 pm

u have louitis u wont remember either lol

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loonysarah Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 2:49 pm

Done!!

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Late Starter Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 2:53 pm

lmao told ya!!!
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I was wondering if someone has a screencapture of Simone/Amanda lying on the ground, looking up at the sky? (I know it was on Simone's main site)
I watched Heartless yesterday on Belgian TV and really loved that scene. I think Amanda is the kind of girl I would fall in love with :wub:
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I was wondering if someone has a screencapture of Simone/Amanda lying on the ground, looking up at the sky? (I know it was on Simone's main site)
I watched Heartless yesterday on Belgian TV and really loved that scene. I think Amanda is the kind of girl I would fall in love with  :wub:

I have Heartless caps online. They're at http://invisible-hush.org/fandom/heartless...start=0&end=214

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Now that I've been to Scotland, I really want to watch this movie again. Not that I was way up in the Isle of Skye, but I did fall in love with the countryside a little further south, and the people are just generally warm, down to earth and fun to be around. Everyone should go visit!
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I have Heartless caps online. They're at http://invisible-hush.org/fandom/heartless...start=0&end=214


Great site! Thanks :kiss1
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Hey guys.. I cap'd some clips from heartless.. if you have any requests let me know! I thought the movie was a wee hoaky at times but a decent movie.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4kMRHgPhfw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdGfZZXXrYE

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I finally watched Heartless last night. But then, my DVD stopped near the end so I never saw the ending :(

I've got a faulty DVD; when Harry had his crash, the DVD went back to the main menu. So I'm gonna have to get a new one to see the ending.

But what I did see, I think it's brilliant. Simone's acting is fantastic. We never really saw that emotional side of her in BG. The only time Helen really cried was after her break up with Sean, and then watching Nikki on TV. But she was pretty much alone in both of those scenes and in Heartless we see her interact with others and showing a lot of emotion.

Also, did anyone else think it was a bit weird that Amanda's sons were Sean and Thomas (Helen's two boyfriends in BG). Maybe Simone really likes those two names!
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Aww! Thats too bad Lisa!! :huh: If you want I can make a clip of the end for you!

I still cant get used to the dark hair :-) I like it.. but cant get used to it! I did like like seeing a bit of change from the Helen! I didnt like the emotional crying though! I didnt think it sounded quite right. I do think the best performance Ive seen by her was from Long Haul.

I did find it quite amusing about her boys names! Wasnt her mother in laws name Jean?
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Thanks Avalon, that's be great if you could do that for me. I saw it up until Harry fell off his bike.

I thought her mother-in-law's name was Jane.
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I love "Heartless" - such a beautiful film. And the scenery of the Isle of Skye was a character as much as Amanda and Harry.

And the Isle of Skye is as beautiful as it's shown. I was there the beginning of June and absolutely fantastic. And the people are so warm and generous.

Here are some pictures I took from The Isle of Skye, and one from Eilean Donan Castle with Skye in the backdrop.

Isle of Skye - Fairy Glen 01
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View from Eilean Donan Castle - Isle of Skye in background
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View from Ruins of Duntulum Castle, Isle of Skye
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Wow, those photos are fantastic. I wish I had made it that far north when I was in Scotland. I guess I'll just have to make another trip!
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Ok, I've seen the ending now! Thanks to Avalon :hug2


Yes, sorry, Amanda's mother-in-law was Jean, not Jane. Now I've seen the ending, I've seen the "In memory of" card.

I don't think Simone had as much chemistry with Angus Deaton as she did with Mandana Jones. When they kissed at the wedding, it didn't seem that real. In BG, the kisses with Mandana seemed to just happen, but with Angus it looked kind of....forced. If that makes any sense at all! I've confused myself here, so how any of you are meant to make sense of it is beyond me!

But all in all, I think it was a good film. Not great, but watchable.
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I found it quite amusing her sons names were Sean & Thomas too, I wonder if that was just in the script, or it was delibertaely put in to be slightly i dont humorous?
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I wonder if that was just in the script, or it was delibertaely put in to be slightly i dont humorous?

Like I said before, maybe Simone really likes the two names. But then again, maybe it's just a huge coincedence!
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