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What the? That's not what it means here.; what words mean in your country
Topic Started: Apr 24 2007, 05:24 PM (7,360 Views)
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May 26 2007, 09:35 PM
Here's one that visitors to the UK find confusing: Tunnock's Tea Cakes. A teacake usually means a sweet bread roll with dried fruit, served toasted and buttered. A Tunnock's Tea Cake is a shortbread biscuit with a chocolate dome on top filled with a sort of whipped egg white.

And - around where we live in the UK (North West, around Burnley area) we get Tea Cakes, meaning large rolls - Also known more readily as Barm Cakes! Tea Cake is very very local, I've only heard it in this town and a couple of surrounding ones. Barm Cake being the slightly more widespread use for the area.

When my parents first came up to the area, they ordered a Tuna Roll at a local cafe - and were as confused as hell when the waitress came out, and called out "Tuna Tea Cake!"
They had no idea it was their order, much less it was a savoury item..... in fact they didn't know what a Tuna Tea Cake could possibly consist of!
Fortunately the person who took the order realised their problem and so they did get their Tuna Roll aka Tea cake.

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May 26 2007, 10:50 PM
Cassandra
May 26 2007, 09:35 PM
Here's one that visitors to the UK find confusing: Tunnock's Tea Cakes. A teacake usually means a sweet bread roll with dried fruit, served toasted and buttered. A Tunnock's Tea Cake is a shortbread biscuit with a chocolate dome on top filled with a sort of whipped egg white.

And - around where we live in the UK (North West, around Burnley area) we get Tea Cakes, meaning large rolls - Also known more readily as Barm Cakes! Tea Cake is very very local, I've only heard it in this town and a couple of surrounding ones. Barm Cake being the slightly more widespread use for the area.

When my parents first came up to the area, they ordered a Tuna Roll at a local cafe - and were as confused as hell when the waitress came out, and called out "Tuna Tea Cake!"
They had no idea it was their order, much less it was a savoury item..... in fact they didn't know what a Tuna Tea Cake could possibly consist of!
Fortunately the person who took the order realised their problem and so they did get their Tuna Roll aka Tea cake.

:rofl Haven't come across Barm Cakes before. I'll take a mental note of that one in case I'm ever in your area! Though I'm a little confused (as usual), I thought Barm meant alcoholic?
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Its even in wikipedia! lol

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barm

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May 26 2007, 04:30 PM
Are these the same/analagous to Cheese Doodles? They're also a puffed "cheese" snack made with sinister ingredients. :)

Same kind of thing - exactly the same kind of dodgy ingredients, I'm sure, but a different brand. I also like Cheese Doodles, but haven't eaten them in over a decade. Not sure if they're vegetarian. I'm traumatized by the recent discovery that no Parmesan is vegetarian, but I've convinced myself that Cheesies probably don't even contain cheese, let alone rennet, and are 100% artificial, so they should be fine. :D
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May 26 2007, 09:49 PM
I love Irn Bru and think it's terrible that you'd drink Full Sugar Irn Bru. *shudders* And I've heard the rumours about the permanent carpet stains too .... but I'm trying not to dwell too much on them.

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May 26 2007, 10:16 PM
Its even in wikipedia! lol

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barm

Is that the origin of the British expression "barmy"? As in "you're as mad as a flour-topped flat-ish bread roll"? :eek
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May 26 2007, 01:35 PM


Irn Bru = eccentric bright orange, carbonated soft drink made in Scotland ........ (need to really roll your Rs to pronounce it!)
Chocolate buttons = flat, circular, button-shaped chocolate pieces, sold in small packets
HP fruity sauce = fruity, brown sauce used as a condiment (e.g. for french fries etc)
Bassett licorice stick = sherbet filled tube, eaten with a licorice stick
Tunnock's caramel wafers = a biscuit, consisting of alternating layers of wafer and caramel, and is made in Scotland

Here's one that visitors to the UK find confusing: Tunnock's Tea Cakes. A teacake usually means a sweet bread roll with dried fruit, served toasted and buttered. A Tunnock's Tea Cake is a shortbread biscuit with a chocolate dome on top filled with a sort of whipped egg white.

Cassandra, wow, thanks for all the cultural information. I googled Irn Bru the home page is pretty wild....Who would have thought that a tv show would make me interested in all things English and Scottish. As if it wasn't enough to start memorizing the slang (I'm afraid my twangy american accent will never to the words justice) I now am introduced to the edibles... :party
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A Tunnock's Tea Cake is a shortbread biscuit with a chocolate dome on top filled with a sort of whipped egg white


We get those here too. I always thought of the inside as a soft marshmallow. It would be the same inside as a Lee's Snowball?

Man, this is bringing back memories. I remember the ice cream van coming when I was a kid and you could get things called sliders, bashers and something in an oyster shell. We would also occasionally get a bowl full of ice cream and put it in with a pop similar to what would be cream soda in north america and make floats out of them. I'm sure one of the things we could get from the ice cream man involved a Snowball.

I also remember Wall's ice cream. You used to be able to get it in a little slab and they would put that slab into a cone specifically shaped for it.

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Not sure if they're vegetarian. I'm traumatized by the recent discovery that no Parmesan is vegetarian, but I've convinced myself that Cheesies probably don't even contain cheese, let alone rennet, and are 100% artificial, so they should be fine. biggrin.gif


So, you're a vegatarian? And justify eating Cheesies? Talk about de-nial.
What a hippicrit you are.

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So ... I've got a dodgy accent, bad hearing and now defective taste buds! That's just great! No wonder I'm getting a complex.


I only actually accused you of the last item! You can roll your r's all you want.

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It doesn't taste anything like orange Fanta, so it's not surprising you can like one and not the other. In fact, the flavor is like something people from the Caribbean drink - and import to North America at specialty stores - called "Kola Champagne". It's even the same clear orange color.


Yeah, the taste is somewhat similar, though Irn Bru would be a bit deeper orange. We can get both Irn Bru and Kola Champagne in most grocery stores in Ajax.

Speaking of prices in the UK vs Canada, I can get a 375 ml bottle of Irn Bru for 99 cents - about 50 p. When I was in Edinburgh last year, I was shocked to see a similar sized bottle for about 75 p, so we can get it cheaper here than where it's made.

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If your see them anywhere in teh GTA let me know and I'll owe you big time.


I'll keep an eye out for you. Though you might try a bulk food store, like Bulk Barn?

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I now am introduced to the edibles


And some fine edibles they are. Don't let the fact that the Scots have one of the highest rates of heart disease in Europe put you off. But that's probably due to the fryup. That's a fried breakfast, usually consisting of sausages, fried eggs, fried bread, fried tomato, black pudding, oh, and bacon and sometimes baked beans for good measure.
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May 27 2007, 02:29 AM


So, you're a vegatarian?  And justify eating Cheesies?  Talk about de-nial.
What a hippicrit you are.


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It doesn't taste anything like orange Fanta, so it's not surprising you can like one and not the other. In fact, the flavor is like something people from the Caribbean drink - and import to North America at specialty stores - called "Kola Champagne". It's even the same clear orange color.



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If your see them anywhere in teh GTA let me know and I'll owe you big time.


I'll keep an eye out for you. Though you might try a bulk food store, like Bulk Barn?

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I now am introduced to the edibles


And some fine edibles they are. Don't let the fact that the Scots have one of the highest rates of heart disease in Europe put you off. But that's probably due to the fryup. That's a fried breakfast, usually consisting of sausages, fried eggs, fried bread, fried tomato, black pudding, oh, and bacon and sometimes baked beans for good measure.

I'm not vegan, I eat dairy and eggs - I just don't eat dead flesh of any kind. :slurp But I have to be careful that the cheese I eat doesn't contain rennet, which comes from the stomach lining of calves. I'm sure I screw up every now and then, but I do try... And now that the people that make Galaxy chocolates have changed their minds about adding rennet to that ,*shudder* I will be able to enjoy Minstrels when I'm in the UK next month. We don't get Minstrels in Canada as far as I know.

BTW, do you know where I can get Twiglets in the GTA? My supply is running low...

I will go to Bulk Barn tomorrow and see if they carry Cheesies - and what the ingredients might be.

Oh, and the Scots' heart disease might have something to do with deep-fried pizza and deep-fried Mars bars, as well. But that's just a hunch and having never tried either, I can't honestly say they're not worth risking one's health for.
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May 26 2007, 11:35 PM
Irn Bru = eccentric bright orange, carbonated soft drink made in Scotland ........ (need to really roll your Rs to pronounce it!)

We also have that stuff, but it's spelled Iron Brew. And it is not orange, it is sort of brownish. A mixture of Coke and Fanta Orange, I believe, and as disgusting as it sounds. Do other parts of the world still have the Fanta variants - Fanta Grape and Fanta Pineapple?
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May 27 2007, 11:32 AM
Cassandra
May 26 2007, 11:35 PM
Irn Bru = eccentric bright orange, carbonated soft drink made in Scotland ........ (need to really roll your Rs to pronounce it!)

We also have that stuff, but it's spelled Iron Brew. And it is not orange, it is sort of brownish. A mixture of Coke and Fanta Orange, I believe, and as disgusting as it sounds. Do other parts of the world still have the Fanta variants - Fanta Grape and Fanta Pineapple?

Ah! If it's not actually called 'Irn Bru' then I'm afraid it is only a poor imitation.

"The 'Iron-Brew' produced by other manufacturers is a similar shade, but merely approximates Irn-Bru in taste. The formula for Irn-Bru is a closely guarded trade secret, known only by two of Barr's board members, with a written copy held in a Swiss bank-vault."

I checked and it appears to be distributed in SA as well. I'm fairly sure that they kept the same name for exporting, which is unusual. It is a bit of an acquired taste though. Not sure about the Fanta since I don't drink it.

Cheesies sound intriguing. I assume it's a type of crisp (what we call crisps)?

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Cheesies sound very like Wotsits!

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As for being Barmy - my understanding is the origin altogether for Barm Cakes is the sticky, ale based yeast used to bake with called
Barm, and Barmy comes about because of that origin rather than the bakers origin.

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May 27 2007, 12:37 PM
As for being Barmy - my understanding is the origin altogether for Barm Cakes is the sticky, ale based yeast used to bake with called
Barm, and Barmy comes about because of that origin rather than the bakers origin.
Thanks ILMJNet! I still don't quite get the connection between Barmy and yeast. Anyway I looked it up (though this may not be a reliable source).

"Barmy" comes from the old English word barm, meaning "yeast". It was used to describe bakers who had eaten uncooked bread dough, and became tipsy. A second meaning has to do with exuberance, and again this is down to the behaviour of the yeast, which left to its own devices in a warm, sugary solution, produces vigorous bubbles. It is still used, most especially in the Midlands and North of England, to describe someone whose behaviour is, shall we say, odd or eccentric.

I'm not really much of a crisp fan so I'd forgotten about Wotsits. They do sound similiar. Anyway I promise not to ask why you were feeding Wotsits and chips to the local pigeons. No wonder they look well fed.
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Cheesies sound very like Wotsits!


Yeah, they look pretty similar.

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I will be able to enjoy Minstrels when I'm in the UK next month. We don't get Minstrels in Canada as far as I know.

BTW, do you know where I can get Twiglets in the GTA? My supply is running low...


I've heard of Minstrels. Not sure if I've seen them in a local store. I'll check that out. I'll also look out for Twiglets, though I must admit I have no idea what they are. Are they anything like Twix?

I seem to remember a store on Queen Street in the beaches that sold candy and chocolate - a sort of old fashioned style store that had the huge jars of candies it could dispense from. Anyway, I'm sure it had a British section. Damned expensive too, if I recall. It was on the south side of Queen.

So, back in the UK next month? Boy, you sure do have "itchy" feet.
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BTW, do you know where I can get Twiglets in the GTA? My supply is running low...
I'll also look out for Twiglets, though I must admit I have no idea what they are. Are they anything like Twix?
They are bit like savoury biscuit sticks (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twiglets). Completely different to a Twix.
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