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| Tweet Topic Started: Oct 4 2007, 01:07 AM (7,691 Views) | |
| FanFicCrazy | Oct 4 2007, 01:07 AM Post #1 |
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Ok first off hello wonderful readers and writers of Nikki and Helen Fan Fic I’ve read stories around here for almost a year now and I have enjoyed almost all, however I am sometimes very disappointed when I'm left stranded as a reader, for months at times, waiting for an update of course. I know and many if not all of our readers here also know that life is unpredictable. There are so many great unfinished fic’s around these parts that am regretful that the writers have abandon them, writing takes patience and I commend anyone willing to have such patience and dedication to write. However I don’t find that to many of the writers are genuine, that meaning that I’ve read the numerous stories that are the hot topic of the last month or two and I’ve not seen too many of those writers supporting each others fic, of course it’s by choice to leave a comment. I would however thought that this board is such a place where support would be given more generous and not a partisan show of over zealous supporters only supporting picked writers it’s not a competition, its an art so CAN WE BE A BIT MORE SUPPORTIVE TO ALL THE WONDERFUL WRITERS support them fairly if you may. Thank you so much for taking the time to read. Again this is just an opinion as I am no one of importance but without continued support to each and every writer that takes the time to write we won’t have a reason to visit the board would we? Keep up the great writing Fic writers. Cheers
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| Emms | Oct 4 2007, 05:36 AM Post #2 |
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I support whatever I read. Currently I'm only following about three stories, but that's because I have a busy schedule and can't possibly read everything. It would be cool if more people left feedback for the writers here period. I think feedback in general is splendiforific (not an actual word, I know.) but it only works the way you're suggesting if everyone gets involved. Right now it seems that there's a small group of us that are active feedbackers, and I suspect that there are many readers who come and enjoy the stories here but either aren't registered or chose not to leave feedback and that's cool too, but it's kinda unfair for one person to come in and say that the people who are putting in the effort to leave feedback are not doing so appropriately. In a perfect world I would love to read everything (and I probably will get around to reading everything eventually) but right now I just don't have the time. Perhaps you would like to join in and leave a bit of encouragement for the writers of the stories you're following (you said you were an avid reader of the stories here, no?)? ![]() |
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| FanFicCrazy | Oct 4 2007, 09:26 AM Post #3 |
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Thank you for the feedback Emms but unfortunately I'm not the one ineed of any feedback and had you taken the time you would have seen that I did leave encouragemet for the writers . |
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| richard | Oct 4 2007, 04:49 PM Post #4 |
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This thread broaches a topic that is a timely one. First off, I have found that it works out better to write out the fic completely as a 'word' document and also to set out a 'list of parts/ chapters, etc' as a way of keeping continuity. The second suggestion is made after contributing to past debates on 'Shed's continuity glitches' in the original TV version (being super critical of the coffee jugs spilt by Shell all over Rachel Hicks and the full jugs appearing next shot) and looking at your own fic (or it being pointed out to you that you've done exactly the same in print. The other way is to write and post 'on inspiration' and keep 'all the balls in the air' which is fine if you can keep up the inspiration. This is dependent on having the spare time, dedication and, most of all, that some life shaking event doesn't take place which puts everything else on the back burner or suddenly getting stuck in the plot or whatever. It all depends on the length of the fic and its complexity. I have had experience working both ways. As a writer, I thoroughly appreciate the work done by the active 'feedbackers' like Emms and I very much take the point that there are only so many hours in a day for 'ordinary life (including holding down a job)' going on the MB and just how many fics you follow. I don't think the issue of partizanship enters the picture at all or shouldn't do. I thoroughly take the point about writers supporting other writers, the absence of could partly comes down to time and partly down to working in isolation. A roundabout way of working round this that the internet offers is jointly written fics i.e. each writer taking alternate chapters which could cause disagreements but on the other hand can maximise the positive and 'bookend' writing styles harmoniously. My experience of this has been very positive. |
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| Jeanna | Oct 4 2007, 06:47 PM Post #5 |
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I said SIT IN THAT CHAIR
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Also one should keep in mind that some people give feedback privately in a PM or email. |
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| FanFicCrazy | Oct 4 2007, 08:01 PM Post #6 |
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Wonderful Feedback Great to see You've woken up Thank You for responding and being such good sports. AND KEEP SUPPORTING ALL THE WONDERFUL WRITERS ON THE BOARD FULL SUPPORT IS A GOOD THING. Now I'll crawl back under my rock for a bit Cheers
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| tudy | Oct 4 2007, 08:23 PM Post #7 |
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Hey guys...I too feel badly when an interesting fic is left unfinished.... If real life intrudes...or imagination flags...Perhaps writers need a way to back out gracefully. A formulaic wrap up...".And they all lived happily ever blah blah blah." Anything but an arid... pitiless.... vacuum. Hey Richard....I've tried both and working without a net is way more fun. Continuity?Nope...names change...but everyone too polite to comment.Cool Errors...? I find them endearing.....grammer? spelling? punctuation? in a phone text world...no big deal...let 'er rip....If I can sound it out and it's not boring....bonus.....Cheers and celebrate diversity bad girls n' guys |
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| terriw1979 | Oct 4 2007, 10:34 PM Post #8 |
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I understand where you're coming from and i agree with you - people SHOULD leave fdbk more, even if its just to say "thanks for updating" or "that was good" or even just a smiley face - just something to let the writer know that someone is reading, and appreciating what theyve written and stuff... but I can see this from a reading and writing perspective. I know i havent written many fics and they arent of the sort of high caliber of CBG and stuntdouble and mandanasa and coolbyrne and ginny... i dont pretend that they are. but i know that in the past ive had 'real life' take over and things that arent maybe emergencies but serious personal, or financial situations have come up, and you forget about this board, you forget about checking your email, about myspace and msn and the book you were enjoying before, and any other hobbies and stuff, because something's happened that you need to sort out, that fills up your brain and doesn't let you think about anything else. For example ive not had money for rent and been working 23 hours a day before now during a story i was posting on here, i've moved house and lost my internet connection for periods of time, ive been seriously ill, my partner was diagnosed with cancer.... and i had less time and will to write happy stories for a while and even tho i came and checked the mb for updates fromt ime to time, i couldnt bring myself to write any more of my own story on here because i didnt have the time and i didnt feel in the right frame of mind (write frame of mind?) for it. maybe not every writer chooses to share this kind of stuff with the board, and just disappears for a bit. i've done both, i know what it's like. it doesn't mean you care any less about the stories or the ppl here... but at the end of the day, what you have to do, you have to do, and what you can't do, you can't do. What i'm trying to say is that i think it would be nice to allow writers a bit more lee way when it comes to updates - my first few fics, i was known as someone who updated really quick, really regularly, but that took a lot of effort, writing and rewriting the fics, then getting my awesome beta to look over them, and then posting them here... and while writers should agree to undertake that effort by posting a story, sometimes it isn't always possible. Emergencies aside, sometimes you just get writers block. Sometimes you get excited and start posting a story you havent finished, that you want fdbk on, but then you get stuck and get writers block, or you write yourself into a corner like painting yourself into a corner, and can't get out again, and you have to think about it and you get stuck sometimes. Sometimes you don't feel in the right mood to write about love or anger or hurt or joy... i know i'm not in a position to talk because i am guilty of posting fdbk to stories saying 'pls update soon' because im enjoying it, but i try not to be too forceful or demanding about it because i know what its like to have people demanding you update and being basically mean to you because you take too long... when in fact we, the readers, should be thanking the writer for sharing the story with us at all. it takes guts and effort to do, and we should all be more appreciative, as fanficcrazy says. i know a lot of people leave private fdbk, by board message or email or IM... because i have sent and recieved such fdbk before myself. that's cool and some people might not want to post on the board in public. Also i suspect that fanficcrazy has created a new alias to use to make this post, and is a regular member under a different name who does post encouraging fdbk, so leave them alone
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| Emms | Oct 4 2007, 10:48 PM Post #9 |
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This conversation is getting interesting. Terri brought up a lot of good points about writing and reasons why it's hard sometimes to finish a story. Personally, writer's block is the big one for me... Has anyone else experienced anything similar?
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I registered at G Wing and all I got was this lousy tshirt. “After my time at Larkhall, I deserve to take it easy for a long, long while. I’ve been there, done it, and worn the bloody T-shirt..."~ Helen in: Unfinished Business by Richard | |
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| zena | Oct 5 2007, 01:41 AM Post #10 |
I said SIT IN THAT CHAIR
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I can't write at all, but i do read and appreciate all the fanfic. i try to leave fdbk on every story i read. When stories are unfinished i wonder what happened but i know that real life does throw curves for the authors . I really hear what you are saying terri .So i am grateful for any fanfic at all z |
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| FanFicCrazy | Oct 5 2007, 01:46 AM Post #11 |
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No terriw1979 am not under an alias I was hiding in the closet for many months ,but at somepoint in time you have to come out eh, (smiles) not that closet been out that for ages. well I must say am estatic to see where this is going. And am not bothering the writers its the readers mainly that don't support and maybe I was quilty of being one of the many guest readers that pop in from time to time ,however many of the regestired reader's and writer's are very much guilty of not supporting there fellow writers and you know who you are, the one's that read the various stories and don't leave that encouraging smile or words of appreciation it doesn't hurt to be supportive. As for the many greats around like CBG, mandana sa and coolbyrne and ginny they support other writers work I'll add richard in there.They have and still continue to encourage. stuntdouble is new unless thats an alias as you so assumed I would be. So I would say again Support the writers make them feel appreciated it doesn't take much to do so eh. Now Cheers and have a drink on me |
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| stuntdouble | Oct 5 2007, 02:25 AM Post #12 |
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Up to Basic
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What an interesting thread! Well, first off, I am new to the board. It would be a fun conspiracy if I was some sort of long-time poster assuming a pseudonym, but alas, I am not as awesome as Charlotte Bronte. The fic I am writing here now is my first shot at any sort of fan fiction, but I have been writing non-fiction for years. I have a moderately well-traveled blog, and I have written for a few magazines. And I can easily say that I have received more encouragement and feedback from the posters on this board than almost anywhere else I have written. When people post to say, "Please update!" I don't take offense to that at all. It often encourages me because it lets me know that people are interested. And the feedback (both in the forums and on PM) has been stellar. I have been humbled by the wonderful things people have said to me. (I'm looking at you: Emms, Cassandra, Zena, Tudy, TerriW, Lahbib Lover... ) I mean, seriously, I have been overwhelmed with the affection of these posters. The frequency of updates is a pretty complex issue. I have been trying to update my story twice a week, but this week that just hasn't happened. I have rewritten the chapter I am working on now about four times and it just doesn't feel right to me. I was torn between posting something - anything - just to let people know I was still committed to the story, and waiting until I'd captured the authentic voice of the characters. I posted to let everyone know that I was wrestling with this chapter, and the response I got again amazed me again. Authenticity over speed, they said. Anyway, I am just really thankful to have found such a supportive community. It has definitely changed the way I write. (In a good way.) |
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| LahbibLover | Oct 5 2007, 03:53 AM Post #13 |
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I said SIT IN THAT CHAIR
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OOOOh stuntdouble , I'm weak in the knees from the shout out. I have no choice but to encourage you to keep on writing because I really love reading good fanfic. I get a little over wrought when I don't get my daily dose of fanfic. I do have to remember that you have other things in your life besides fanfic writing, so I try to remember to have patience while waiting for the next updates. I used to not give feedback because I was to bloody paranoid about what to say but after a couple of pm's from music video people, I realized that if it were me writing or making videos I would really appreciate somebody acknowledging the fact that I existed and gave some pleasurable moments to others. I don't do it with every story I read but some just really touch me and are so good that I can't ignore them. This is a holla to all fanfic writers that I really do appreciate your writing and time and energy. It takes a lot of nerve to put yourself out there. Thanks a bunch, you're bloody wonderful, yeah? ![]() cheers, Brenda |
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| hopelessromantic | Oct 5 2007, 05:59 AM Post #14 |
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Well I think I’ll take the opportunity to add my piece also, not one for center stage but some interesting facts have been raised and since I’ve joined the rank of Fan Fiction writer some of the facts do pertain to me. Where do I start ok yes I’ve written before, I write daily, I write lot’s of prescriptions tons of discharge notes to the numerous patients that are discharge from my care daily weekly, monthly etc and I’ve written a full page of love and devotion, my committed vow to my partner of a decade on our commitment ceremony four yrs ago now I couldn’t write anything more special than that. Laughing out loud, is that enough writing to be in the writers club? Now I think that ranks amongst the best of the best writers I would say laugh if you wish I found this bit funny, hope you do too. Six Degrees Of Separation is my first Fan Fiction ever and had been in the works since early summer upon joining the two most popular Fan Fiction boards for Nikki and Helen. I finished 24 chapters wasn’t sure what to do wondering was it good enough for any of the boards. I was quite timid I was worried how it would be read, had thoughts of canning the whole Fic until I sent it to a great friend of mines <mandana sa> Thank you manni. She said no way find a beta and post. I took her advice and found my beta well I found two, one was a bit busy and the other has been a gem. Even though I’ve written all those chapters you still find yourself trying to improve each chapter and your're delayed with putting them out as fast as you wish, as a good friend and supporter of my Fic said there's no reason to limit ambitions in Fan Fiction. Thank you Richard. Support well am new so am quiet sure that played a factor in the beginning, but I've had some wonderful feedback so far, I would love to see more support from other writers also, who’s work I know I’ve supported in the short months that I’ve been a member, as it give's you an idea as how your Fic measures up, but am not here to force anyone to do such, but the support does make your effort feel counted and I'm definitely going to finish this Fic and hopefully follow up with another part. With that said I welcome your feedback I don’t expect every chapter to be riveting but give a feedback make me feel warranted. Thank you to the readers and writers that has supported my Fic so far I feel honoured. Richard, bgfanatic, mandana sa, Emms, Zena, Cassandra, Sashindu, Bettela, Sexy Simone, Lahbiblover, Lizi and fanficcrazy who has started or rather open an age old topic as Richard mention. And the many guest readers, try registering there's no free popcorn if you don't.
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| stuntdouble | Oct 5 2007, 01:31 PM Post #15 |
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Up to Basic
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I just wanted to mention one more thing. (Or two.) First off, HopelessRomantic, I typed your name in my head last night when I was listing out people who had been awesomely supportive, but my fingers forgot. I'm sorry. ![]() Secondly, now that I know how uplifting it is to receive feedback, I will definitely leave it for other stories I read. But right now I can't read any other stories because I am afraid the characters' voices will get all jumbled up in my head. My imagination is fragile; I'd hate for fan fiction to push me over the thin line to crazy. |
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(not an actual word, I know.) but it only works the way you're suggesting if everyone gets involved.



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