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| microsofty | Apr 6 2008, 08:54 PM Post #16 |
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Oh, you'll find it's pretty darn close! Another movie that deals with this issue and exposes it in all it's horror is Boys don't cry, which deals with gender identity disorder. Not the same though as transsexuality, and much more disturbing than Transamerica. I actually did not enjoy the latter so much, IMO the movie failed to gain momentum. Still, a very realistic depiction of the life of a transsexual. |
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| abzug | Apr 7 2008, 01:47 AM Post #17 |
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How is gender identity disorder different from transexuality? I have a number of good friends who are trans, and I've never heard this distinction before. |
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| microsofty | Apr 7 2008, 02:47 PM Post #18 |
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Not different per se, but the one is a manifestation of the other. Gender identity disorder is the psychiatric grouping of disorders characterised by a sense of inappropriateness and a discomfort concerning one's sex role. Transsexualism on the other hand is a condition primarily characterised by the belief that one is of the wrong sex. This would include certain criteria such as 1) a discomfort with your sexual anatomy; 2) a persistent, deep desire to be a member of the opposite sex; and 3) a wish to change your genetalia. Transsexualism is grouped as a gender identity disorder (of which there are different manifestations). |
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| Mad Maggot | Apr 7 2008, 03:26 PM Post #19 |
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Thanks for your recommendation! I've heard a lot of good things about Boys Don't Cry (Swank's performance, in particular), just haven't come around to watching it, but now I'll make sure I will. |
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| marymartin | Apr 23 2008, 02:03 PM Post #20 |
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The ghost of Larkhall!
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Anyone who has seen There Will Be Blood -- other than Daniel Day Lewis' performance I have to say I just didn't see a whole lot to get excited about in this movie -- am I missing something? I thought the plot was extremely disjointed and the main character was a complete ass. |
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| marymartin | Apr 23 2008, 02:04 PM Post #21 |
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Oops. Somehow posted above twice.
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| ekny | Jun 4 2008, 10:29 PM Post #22 |
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Hm, this doesn't belong here but then... I dunno where to put it: in the Non-Great-Non-Lesbian-Novels-adapted-into-Potentially-Irritating-Movies thread, I guess. I read a novel with supposed lesbian content, called Cracks, a few years back--4? 5? Anyway. Disliked it. Rather a lot, during the times I could rouse myself from my torpor enough to generate an emotion in response to it. Lesb content extremely minimal & v negative: think Picnic at Hanging Rock w/o the charm. (Such as it was.) All the usual straight components are there: overheated Looks. A lot of teasing, baiting, & savagely nasty adolescent behavior, cuz girls are just LIKE that. Anyway: terrible secrets. Betrayal. Death. You know. Anyway--Ridley Scott's daughter, Jordan, is making a film adaptation. Definitely having trouble caring. So this is a heads-up for people who like period pieces. Possibly someone who has a different take on this sort of thing will see it, like it, & explain to me what I'm missing. The book was set in SA, as I recall. The film will be set in the UK. Because, yknow, they're so much alike, mate. ...It's possible some readers might at least find the book itself interesting as an exercise; it's pretty formal. Ok, it's first person *plural*. Which is just about impossible to do in any kind of accessible fashion, imo. (So yeah, I did find it pretentious & irritating, very grad-school writing-program... funny you should ask! I like certain aspects of formality in writing just fine: but coupled with the predictability of the narrative & the horribleness of the girls, the writing's lack of appeal [for me] meant there was no way in, no way to connect with anything: not the story, the characters--or the writing itself.) I brought this up on another thread, but anyway... it still bugs me: that there's no in-between for books about teenaged-girls' sexuality. It's always this vicious piranha-like feeding frenzy. 'sup with that?! My friends weren't like that, growing up. My friends' friends weren't like that. I think it's crap. Anyway. Sorry for suggesting a movie that hasn't been made yet will suck. I hope I'm wrong, because I don't think I'm alone in believing the world does NOT need yet one more teenage-deviant-crush-mishap-death movie. |
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| Mad Maggot | Sep 7 2008, 07:08 PM Post #23 |
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Phew, I just rewatched Being John Malkovich.. Boy, is it great or what? I'm amazed every time I see it. It reminds me I must rewatch Adaption, Charlie Kauffman did a fantastic job with this one, too. |
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| ekny | Sep 8 2008, 04:13 AM Post #24 |
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Was that the movie made from the book, The Orchid Thief, MadMaggot? If so... I kinda had trouble with it. It had some good moments, I thought, but the whole drama-towards-the-end thing just felt cobbled together & unnecessary. Mainly I just liked the book better, and since I'd read it first, had different expectations, so maybe my response isn't fair to the film itself, I dunno: the subculture of people who are fanatical about orchids is so interesting just on its own... that should have been enough, in terms of plot, I felt. --e |
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| Jeanna | Sep 8 2008, 09:57 PM Post #25 |
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Yes, that's it, e. ("Adaptation" that is.) Hello, m'dear.
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| Mad Maggot | Sep 19 2008, 01:31 PM Post #26 |
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Well, you see, as far as I understood Adaptation.. there were two brothers each writing their own screenplay. One of them was into this drama aka Oscar-worthy stuff aka navel-gazing and the first half of the movie or maybe even 3/4 was "written" by him and the other brother who was into writing meaningless screenplay for action movies and soon-to-be-blockbusters and saw the 1/4 that closes the movie belonged to his pen, that's right when the movie lost its plot, there were sudden and unnecessary twists, some action and every other typical attribute of an action flick. Dunno if this makes sense... it's a movie about two writers writing screenplay based on their beliefs of how screenplays should be written and this reflects also in how the movie plays out. |
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| ekny | Nov 19 2008, 03:37 AM Post #27 |
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Saw The Visitor, which was excellent across the boards, great performances, wonderful, low-key script, clean, unobtrusive cinematography, a real treat. Doesn't feel like an American film, not even like an American indie, really. Also saw a fun little UK film called Kinky Boots, about a British shoe factory that has to retool its product line to stay in business. Outstanding performance by the character who plays a drag queen, very little camp, just right inside the character, he totally nails it. (Also features 'Saint' from Sugar Rush & 'Thelma' from Hex--sorry I can't recall their names.) What's interesting here is that the film has no surprises & still manages to be a real movie that's totally pleasing. Which, I wound up thinking, is actually really hard to do. How many films run 100% to spec, & still *work*? Are moving, stay on message, and entertain you? Not many. Sure it's a little pat at the end but so what; that's part of the formula too, in a way. ...It's a mark of how quietly good the film is that everyone's story is about the same emotional set of choices, & that the stories of the less likable characters are dignified as well. A friend said it's like going to a bullfight or something very formal where the audience knows all the moves--but only 1 in a hundred is truly gratifying. A minor movie, definitely--but there was no point in the hour forty minutes (which felt short) where I was bored or impatient. The final scene has a sort of extended stunt by the lead actor that's very skillfully done, & segues so neatly into the main number that I just wanted it to go on for a while. Nice way to spend an evening.
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| ekny | Nov 20 2008, 11:40 PM Post #28 |
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I didn't realize the wonderful Lizzie Borden indie, Working Girls, had been rereleased with director's commentary. Much rubbing of hands. |
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| solitasolano | Dec 8 2008, 09:23 PM Post #29 |
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Saw I've Loved You So Long the other night. Run, don't walk to see this award winning French film starring a fluent Kristin Scott Thomas. The most intelligent script I've seen in ages....appropriate interest to BG fans, prison, death, killing, and murder are themes which run from beginning to end. Writer turned first time director, Phillipe Claudel, taught in prison for 10 years. Base upon his own book. I saw this film accompanying friends knowing nothing more than "French film about the relationship between two women". Except for saying the two women are sisters and one of them has just left prison...I am hesitant to say much more because part of the satisfying beauty of seeing this film was the slow reveals in the story....I don't think I would have enjoyed it as much if I had known more before. I haven't been a big fan of Kristin Scott Thomas as she seems to me to always play uptight anorexic self-absorbed A type achiever personalities (of course in a horse movie I make an exception). Well, put her in drab clothes, add a few pounds and slow down the dialog and, viola, a wonderful viewing experience. In reading about the film after the fact, I learned that Kristin Scott Thomas played a lesbian in last summer's French thriller, Tell No One. Guess I'll have to track that down. PS. Lizzie Borden's Born in Flames is a 70's fav of mine...complete with the heroine getting advice from real life feminist, Flo Kennedy who pontificates while doing her nails. Very funny bit. |
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| ekny | Dec 9 2008, 06:12 PM Post #30 |
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It's a very minor role, maybe 5, 10 minutes on screen total. As for playing a lesbian: yeah, in that French kinda way. She checks out another woman's butt, there's some innuendo. As I recall, that's about it. Heavily convoluted plot, not a movie that's about more than it's about: a French thriller. if you like that kind of thing you'll probably enjoy it. ![]() Still haven't had time for Born in Flames, but really looking forward to it! Flo Kennedy always was a gas. (I figure I've waited this long...)
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