Welcome Guest [Log In] [Register]
Welcome to Nikki And Helen. We hope you enjoy your visit.


You're currently viewing our forum as a guest. This means you are limited to certain areas of the board and there are some features you can't use. If you join our community, you'll be able to access member-only sections, and use many member-only features such as customizing your profile, sending personal messages, and voting in polls. Registration is simple, fast, and completely free.


Join our community!


If you're already a member please log in to your account to access all of our features:

Username:   Password:
Add Reply
You Tube Copyright Crackdown; My BG Vids are under attack
Topic Started: Oct 16 2008, 03:41 PM (1,806 Views)
Jeanna
Member Avatar
I said SIT IN THAT CHAIR
Is anyone else having their fanvids removed by You Tube?

In two days I've had three Bad Girls music vids removed because of copyright issues over the music (two were Melissa Etheridge songs)--seems to me if You Tube is going to get serious all of a sudden over copyright they are going to lose an awful lot of their content.

Then again--it could be some homophobic attack against our particular content by pointing out copyright infringement--which would really piss me off.

Anyone want to recommend other online video sites for uploading our vids?
H&N Music Vid by me and ekny

Something To Talk About
YouTube

My BG Music Vids
On YouTube

My vids You Tube removed
Click Here
OR HERE

BAM for Beginners
BAM Channel
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
silverballnz
Member Avatar
Hi from the land of the Kiwi.
Hi Jeanna

Just to let you know that many people have had vids removed and even accounts closed at youtube..

It is to do with copyright and they are targeting things like.

Movie clips, TV show clips, and ofcourse music vids.

Somewhere i saw a letter from youtube to a web site I will try to find it for you..

Edit to add...Jeanna, im sorry I have searched everywhere and cannot find the above mentioned letter...

If i find it I will post it for you.......
Posted Image
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Jeanna
Member Avatar
I said SIT IN THAT CHAIR
Thank you, darlin'

I had another vid removed today. I've uploaded them to Yahoo (URL added to my sig below) which has a much smaller audience than You Tube, needless to say. We'll see how long they last there. As for mass viewing--is there anything out there that is even remotely comparable to You Tube?

And, oddly, they gave me 3 different options on the 4 vids. Two were removed completely and I can't alter them according to their specifications, one they allowed me to remove the soundtrack, and the latest they allowed 'audio swap' from their own 'library' of tracks.
H&N Music Vid by me and ekny

Something To Talk About
YouTube

My BG Music Vids
On YouTube

My vids You Tube removed
Click Here
OR HERE

BAM for Beginners
BAM Channel
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
silverballnz
Member Avatar
Hi from the land of the Kiwi.
Here you go Jeanna

YouTube ordered to reveal its viewers

NEW YORK (AP) -- Dismissing privacy concerns, a federal judge overseeing a $1 billion copyright-infringement lawsuit against YouTube has ordered the popular online video-sharing service to disclose who watches which video clips and when.

U.S. District Judge Louis L. Stanton authorized full access to the YouTube logs after Viacom Inc. and other copyright holders argued that they needed the data to show whether their copyright-protected videos are more heavily watched than amateur clips.

The data would not be publicly released but disclosed only to the plaintiffs, and it would include less specific identifiers than a user's real name or e-mail address.

Lawyers for Google Inc., which owns YouTube, said producing 12 terabytes of data -- equivalent to the text of roughly 12 million books -- would be expensive, time-consuming and a threat to users' privacy.

The database includes information on when each video gets played, which can be used to determine how often a clip is viewed. Attached to each entry is each viewer's unique login ID and the Internet Protocol, or IP, address for that viewer's computer.

Stanton ruled this week that the plaintiffs had a legitimate need for the information and that the privacy concerns are speculative.

Stanton rejected a request from the plaintiffs for Google to disclose the source code -- the technical secret sauce -- powering its market-leading search engine, saying there's no evidence Google manipulated its search algorithms to treat copyright-infringing videos differently.

The court has yet to rule on Google's requests to question comedians Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert of Viacom's Comedy Central.
Viacom is seeking at least $1 billion in damages from Google, saying YouTube has built a business by using the Internet to "willfully infringe" copyrights on Viacom shows, which include Comedy Central's "The Daily Show with Jon Stewart" and Nickelodeon's "SpongeBob SquarePants" cartoon.

The lawsuit was combined with a similar case filed by a British soccer league and other parties.

Together, the plaintiffs are trying to prove that YouTube has known of copyright infringement and can do more to stop it, a finding that could dissolve the immunity protections that service providers have when they merely host content submitted by their users.

Though Google said giving the plaintiffs access to YouTube viewer data would threaten users' privacy, Stanton referred to Google's own blog entry in which the company argued that the IP address alone cannot identify a specific individual.

In a statement, Google said it was "disappointed the court granted Viacom's overreaching demand for viewing history. We are asking Viacom to respect users' privacy and allow us to anonymize the logs before producing them under the court's order."

Google did not say whether it would appeal the ruling or seek to narrow it.

Stanton's ruling made only passing reference to a 1988 federal law barring the disclosure of specific video materials that subscribers request or obtain.
Kurt Opsahl, a senior staff attorney with the Electronic Frontier Foundation, said Stanton should have considered that law along with constitutional free-speech rights, including a right to read or view materials anonymously.

He said a user's ID can sometimes include identifying information such as a first initial and last name.

Viacom said it isn't seeking any user's identity. The company said any data provided "will be used exclusively for the purpose of proving our case against YouTube and Google (and) will be handled subject to a court protective order and in a highly confidential manner."

This is not the first time Google has fought the disclosure of user information it had been stockpiling. While gathering evidence for a case involving online pornography, the U.S. Justice Department subpoenaed Google and other search engines for lists of search requests made by their users.

After Google resisted, a federal judge ruled that Google was obliged to turn over only a sample of Web addresses in its search index, not the actual search terms requested.


All I know about this Jeanna is that after this was published many peoples accounts were shut down..

And many other people that I know, shut accounts down them selves..

There was also a huge disscussion on Our Chart about it which i can no longer find....

Hope this helps you.
Posted Image
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Obsessed with Helen
Member Avatar
Loving Helen
Wow that's a lot of Legal "e"'s

I haven't had any videos removed, but I did have one "UnBreak My Heart" tagged by Sony (due to me using part of Toni Braxton's video).

Sooner or later I fear YouTube will have to remove a great deal of the videos due to copyright infringement, but you would think "Bad Girls" would be so far down the list...... I'm surprised they removed yours Jeanna.

Here we are just trying to have a little fun and if anything I feel music videos promote the shows, not infringe, but that's just my view.


Posted Image
"I knew that there would be a lot of hot licker action" - Simone Lahbib

Helen and Nikki Music Videos
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Jeanna
Member Avatar
I said SIT IN THAT CHAIR
They haven't hit me with any copyright over film content yet, these have all been over music claimed by UMG. 2 Melissa Etheridge and 2 others.

I've had several tagged previously (including the ones now removed) as well, but they just put advertising on the page so I wasn't even sure if it was a legit copyright owner or just a scam to get free advertising when they knew the vidder wouldn't protest it.

I still suspect they may have been deliberately flagged by someone who objected to lesbian content and brought them to You Tube's attention for review.

Quote:
 
Here we are just trying to have a little fun and if anything I feel music videos promote the shows, not infringe, but that's just my view.


And, of course, I could not agree more with that statement. It's been very therapeutic for me besides.

H&N Music Vid by me and ekny

Something To Talk About
YouTube

My BG Music Vids
On YouTube

My vids You Tube removed
Click Here
OR HERE

BAM for Beginners
BAM Channel
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Carolynnq9a
Member Avatar
Carolyn
Jeanna,
I am sorry to hear of them removing your music, etc. Your wonderful music vids have been fun, enjoyable and therapeutic us viewers as well. I hope you still continue making them, they rock!!!
Carolyn
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Jeanna
Member Avatar
I said SIT IN THAT CHAIR
Thanks, hon. <G>

I'm being told from other sources that I'm not the only one who seems to be having their Bad Girls vids targeted.
H&N Music Vid by me and ekny

Something To Talk About
YouTube

My BG Music Vids
On YouTube

My vids You Tube removed
Click Here
OR HERE

BAM for Beginners
BAM Channel
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Jeanna
Member Avatar
I said SIT IN THAT CHAIR
All of my previous BG vids removed from You Tube were because of music copyright--

Now, I have had two removed by Viacom for video and dialogue copyright of BG itself. Are they intent on removing the show from You Tube--is this because of the u.s. version--or what do you think?

Is there anywhere else to post our vids? Does anyone have any tips for disguising vids on You Tube or is that completely impossible?
H&N Music Vid by me and ekny

Something To Talk About
YouTube

My BG Music Vids
On YouTube

My vids You Tube removed
Click Here
OR HERE

BAM for Beginners
BAM Channel
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Obsessed with Helen
Member Avatar
Loving Helen
Well they finally found me, two of mine have been taken off of YouTube:
"All I Do" and
"Forbidden Love"

I hope "they" never find my website.

Cheers!
Posted Image
"I knew that there would be a lot of hot licker action" - Simone Lahbib

Helen and Nikki Music Videos
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
BadGurl
Member Avatar
Escaped Larkhall
I have had 3 of my videos removed as well!

1. "Sorry" by. Madonna (Bad Girls)
(So I believe Madonna is one that is being pulled, hence OWH's forbidden
Love)
2. "Never Be The Same Again" By. Mel C. (Bad Girls)
3. "Closer" By. Jem (Tipping The Velvet)
(That was more content...was flagged!!)

Wonder what is next?? Hopefully not my website. I am thinking I am pulling my YouTube Channel before they find my website! =(
Posted Image
FUTURE WIFE OF MARISKA
Bad Girls Fans On MySpace
Froggie Productions
My YouTube Channel
MySpace
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
silverballnz
Member Avatar
Hi from the land of the Kiwi.
Heres a couple of links about youtube :o

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20081220/en_nm/us_warner_youtube

http://www.youtube.com/blog?entry=Gg-mX2mof8c


Jeanna they are now pulling vids from alot of people that i know :eek
Posted Image
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Jeanna
Member Avatar
I said SIT IN THAT CHAIR
That's what I've heard. They're out to get us.

And I've had two vids pulled so far from Dailymotion, my one Xena vid that has been struck down everywhere I've posted it, and a BG vid that was pulled immediately as I was posting it (not long after it had also been pulled from You Tube--they've taken down ten of my vids so far.) I like that Dailymotion has a gay&lesbian section at least.
H&N Music Vid by me and ekny

Something To Talk About
YouTube

My BG Music Vids
On YouTube

My vids You Tube removed
Click Here
OR HERE

BAM for Beginners
BAM Channel
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
terriw1979
No Avatar
Terriw1979
In other fan communities, for stuff like this we've always used rapidshare or similar, to upload the vids and then you can put the link out there on the forum and people can download them or watch them streamed on the website.

www.rapidshare.de
www.megaupload.com
terriw1979@hotmail.co.uk
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
ZetaBoards - Free Forum Hosting
Enjoy forums? Start your own community for free.
Learn More · Register Now
« Previous Topic · N and H Music Video plus Mandana and Simone Videos · Next Topic »
Add Reply