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Otalia - Guiding Light
Topic Started: Mar 29 2009, 06:54 PM (21,262 Views)
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It does look like a sport metaphor is developing as various characters resort to aggressive physical activity to blow off the steam that comes from keeping secrets and lying.

I was just thinking about this some more, because baseball has been a specific symbol for the last couple months: a locus for male bonding (Rafe and Frank playing catch while Liv and Nat watch, and the two women seem surprised when Emma says she wants to play too). I think there was another scene maybe a month ago with Rafe on the baseball field, although I can't recall the details of what happened in the scene. Oh, wait, wasn't it right after he found out about Nat and Liv, and was wandering around Springfield looking for answers?

Anyway, it's therefore interesting that this fight between Liv and Rafe took place on the baseball field, given that she's fighting against the patriarchal, heteronormative interpretation of her relationship with Nat, standing up against the male-controlled institution of the Catholic church etc. While meanwhile, Rafe is accusing her of (in a way) doing just that: being a woman who is so strong that she can completely undermine the church, heterosexual relationships etc, just b/c she wants someone (Nat) to love her.

And then Liv takes the baseballs and throws and kicks them, in an angry, destructive manner, essentially trying to beat down or tear apart this male, American space. But of course nothing she does has any impact, and so the scene ends with her imprisoned (behind the fence) by the very things she's trying to fight against. So sad.

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Didn't he at some point in the past make some comment about how Olivia wanted everything - I think it was in reference to when she demanded the house? Is it that personal for him? Olivia is now taking his mother from him?

He did, back in the summer, I think. He had a LOT of anger at Olivia during this period, and I think his anger now is definitely rooted in that. And at that time, Olivia really did want everything. The wedding/engagement ring, the house, anything Gus-related. But of course she wound up giving all that back to Natalia, and then some, which Rafe can't appreciate or recognize.
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I tried to edit this down but I am supposed to be working. On, yannow, work. And: there are tiny... gnats in my office. How metaphorically apt can you get? These gnats, they are driving me gaga. Look, I stayed shtum for 12 whole hours. Almost 18, even. I tried. //


I hate Botox too, I just wish she'd cut it the hell out.

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I wanted to cheer because they used the word "gay" THREE times in this episode! It's always nice when they actually use the word, given how much they haven't been "labeling" this relationship.

This is where I differ as to GL's representational Choices. They've continuously labeled this in the negative. Just saying the word does not cut it. The writers can't claim labelless when they--more than anyone in their audience--have made the Label so important. This is the whole having-their-cake-and-eating-it thing. The fact that they're bringing out the big guns, finally (coming up next! The Entitled, Self-Serving, Bitter Comedy Stylings of Rafe Rivera: Idiot-Savant), doesn't nullify the flaws in this approach.

From January to March the characters consistently denied, talked around, or avoided coming to terms with their feelings. So almost every time the Word came up between them, as applied to them, personally, it was a negative. Love was positive, friendship, & let's not forget family. Skip forward to April/May. Romantic friendship; platonic. No words necessary since Boston marriages have been acceptable in this country for well over a century. And now... it's about Rafe. It's about Ashlee. It's about Doris. It's about all our friends and family--just as it should be, according to GL's template. But it's not about the main characters, one of whom is literally invisible and the other, falling apart. Olivia's primary defense/argument is: it's about love. Ipso facto, that's the show's primary defense/argument, as well. It's about the Theme Tune, geddit? And Natalia can hardly be expected to define herself since she hasn't made that choice yet. Nevertheless: privileging a negative definition (I think we're agreed Rafe's presentation is negative) remains, imo, problematic.

Maybe there will be a great payoff in the end. Maybe that will make up for the deficiencies of this presentation. In the meantime, we end with what is, literally, a pyrrhic victory. Which is what I think Olivia's collapse at the fence is also about.


Cagey, I thought the point of soaps (and even this one) was that they always, always punish lying. Dinah being enjoined to go live her life as a murderer: is that some kind of joke?

Nat hasn't actually lied in some basic ways (I realize you are not saying she has--just riffing). She can't tell her son before she knows, herself. So I can't see her getting 'punished' for that. Although given the twisted logic of this thing I suppose it's possible. It's not that she ran because she was wrong: she was wrong because she ran. Given that she did run, though--however emotionally distasteful it is to absolutely everyone--running without a note makes perfect sense. If she could articulate what she was running from she wouldn't have had to have run in the first place.

And that's the stuff she has to deal with. Starting w/apologizing, making amends, & tattooing Olivia's name on her ass.


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Not to waste a lot of time on Rafe but he does have this bipolar explanation of what is going on.

Yeah. I think that's been consistent with him for awhile or I'd have said it was weak scriptwriting. As it stands, however, Rafe's a screaming asshole and his hypocrisy is exactly what makes that so clear.

As for the business w/Ashlee, agree it's ostensibly about Doris but here, too, Rafe's presentation is: it's all about Rafe.


R: You drove her away, blah
O: Didn't drive her away, she left
R: She left *me* because of *you*. .....<<-- disease starts here
O: What? ......................<<-- O's delivery indicates she knows this
R: Look, you tried to take advantage of her, alright?

People who agree with/conclude their own arguments in this way are skilled rhetorically, alright? (It's also a cool way to brainwash yourself.) Because that's a device to drag people in to agreeing with you, yeah? Or to convince yourself your argument is doh! Airtight, right? And so before you know it you're like, nodding along, okay? And Rafe does it all the time, riiiiight? So fer shur, we should, like, note it, since just cuz he's stupid doesn't mean he's unskilled.


O: What is it with you? Maybe it was you. Maybe it was because your church made her feel dirty. Maybe it was because you treated her like she was a *bad person* because she fell in love with someone.
R: Excuse me? .....<<--- For a stupid asshole, his rhetorical responses have always been pretty sophisticated. I'm guessing he watches Fox News.

O: Yeah. You.
R: First of all. You. Okay? It was *your* fault. .....<<--- Awesome technique. I can only admire it, really.

Yep. This is the Fox Technique. Get in their face, never back down. Never make concessions, never admit your 'argument' is totally flawed. In fact: take the deep craters in your logic & turn them to your advantage!

You can only walk away from arguments with these people because they think whoever screams loudest and beats up the other person Wins. Schoolyard bully politics worked for conservatives in this country for almost 25 years until people started calling them on it. Hell, they send wannabe news 'commentators' to special 'schools' to learn this crap even as we speak. Not a joke.

O: My fault. What is wrong with you?

He's a Neocon, Olivia. Walk away. He's gone to the dark side. He's not comin' back.

O: [...] How could you not be happy for her?
R: You don't love her. You didn't love her. You didn't care about her or care about what made her happy.

Several points to the scriptwriters for illustrating [nevertheless: in highly negative fashion] how screwed Rafe's point of view is, since we've seen Olivia do nothing but this for six months.

R: You just wanted somebody to love you and you couldn't find somebody so you chose my mother.

So, Natalia has no agency in this. Nice he respects her so much.

Point: whenever someone takes *off* their sunglasses after a long scene with them on, it's an important beat. So... what is Olivia telling us here?

I think the point is not that he has unmasked some secret fear of hers, but that the battle is over: she's looking at him with pity. That's the expression we need to see.

R: Okay, you took advantage of her because [mumble] weak.
O: Oh god. [shakes head because Rafe is, truly, a moron, & cannot be redeemed]
R: Whatever. [As for Rafe: he looks at Olivia with loathing and disgust. Mumbles to himself, walks off]
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Wrote this while ekny was posting...so haven't read it yet... here's some more thoughts from me meanwhile.


cagey and abzug thanks so much for your commentary. I tend to react to the emotional content of any story and don’t do well with the analyst. As always your respective analyst ADDs to my enjoyment of the show or a particular episode or scene.

I noticed the theme of secrets, but also trust. Natalia has a secret. Rafe has been in his own closet. Mallet and Marina stuff on the honesty and trust theme, “learning how to trust each other again” (which I’ll assume we’ll have to be seeing Nat and Olivia go through, although in a nanosecond given the time left, when Natalia returns).

Did Rafe EVER like Olivia? Hasn’t he always had it in for her? Someone remind me if I’m wrong. (Still weird watching a show backwards although the soap opera timeline time warp manages to repeat the same themes over and over.) Loved how he thought his mom leaving was all about him. “She left me because of you.” If the church and god admonitions coming from Rafe over past episodes hadn’t had been so anvily, I would actually enjoy this demonstration of how family and friends of people who come out also have to process their own closet, their own blame and anger, and come out themselves. At least now Rafe has started a move away from total denial by telling someone else although the telling is still all about him, and he insists his mom isn’t gay still.

Loved Olivia saying out loud, “Maybe it was because your church made her feel dirty"…Please a lttle more church bashing. I won’t mind.
And what’s with all the Rafe smirks in both his scenes. I’m not a fan of his performances or acting.

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Didn't he at some point in the past make some comment about how Olivia wanted everything - I think it was in reference to when she demanded the house? Is it that personal for him? Olivia is now taking his mother from him?
So totally agree this is what’s happening and has all along since he figured it out (well that and the church thing.)
About me watching the show backwards…came across this scene just yesterday. Rafe tracks Olivia down at the hospital to harangue her about Olivia buying the house. When she tells him she needs it, he says, “find something else” and calls her crazy. (5/14/08) at 2:00
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-Eq7rn2Yl4&feature=related

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I hate botox!!!!!
Dang, I thought the ponytail was just pulled back too tight or that the Anis Nin inspired moroccan kohl eye makeup has been on purpose for the last few tormented episodes. A shame if botox attack lessens one microflinch of that great face.
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I think the point is not that he has unmasked some secret fear of hers, but that the battle is over: she's looking at him with pity. That's the expression we need to see.

I totally agree with this read. But then why does she break down in the next scene, once he's left? (And great analysis of Rafe's rhetorical techniques in this scene. You are so right on.)

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If the church and god admonitions coming from Rafe over past episodes hadn’t had been so anvily, I would actually enjoy this demonstration of how family and friends of people who come out also have to process their own closet, their own blame and anger, and come out themselves. At least now Rafe has started a move away from total denial by telling someone else although the telling is still all about him, and he insists his mom isn’t gay still.

Great point! And really, the show is dealing with this incredibly realistically. Sad but true. I mean, we HATE Rafe right now, but it's not like what he's going through is some ridiculous soapy storyline. It's what people go through when they can't accept their loved ones are gay.

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A shame if botox attack lessens one microflinch of that great face.

You should watch some of her scenes on YouTube from 2006 and early 2007. Her face is amazingly expressive, and her eyebrows are so flexible. It's like she can control each little part of the eyebrow and use it. Kind of amazing. What does seem incredible, though, is that she still remains a subtle and expressive actress, even though she can't move half her face. That just tells you how much she can do with her mouth, chin and eyes.
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Double posting because I can, because this light work week is going to disappear starting next week and I will HAVE to be working.

ekny, I agree with your assessment that gay comments are mostly in the negative. It’s a matter of degreel, but there are two utterances, one of “gay” and one of “lesbian” which are delivered by Olivia is self-righteousness. Early on Olivia chastises Natalia after the “her lasagna is to die for/she’s a hottie” scene with, “So what. What is so wrong with people thinking we are gay? Is it really the end of the world to you?”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyiHAtGdeWQ#t=2m50s @2:50 on 2/5/09.
And earlier (1/28/09), even though she’s pulling Alan’s chain, Olivia tirades, “Thinking what? That we are a couple?... that Natalia and I are involved. That we’re lesbians? Say the word with me Alan. C’mon, it’s not a bad word. “ (Of course earlier in the episode Olivia also denies the relationship saying, “Wait a minute. There is no ‘you two’.) Like you say, the women don't claim the identity then or now.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Z4_rGHLsGs#t=5m37s @5:37

I foresee that TPTB will continue to play up the “love” thing without delivering on the saying and naming the “it’s not a bad word” lesbian. “Romanitc friendship”, as you point out is historical, and more importantly for the audience other than us, safe.

Dang, forget the work coming in next week. It came in while I was trying to write this and I can’t recall my further comments. No more late long lunches to catch the show. Boo hoo. Carry on.
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But then why does she break down in the next scene, once he's left?


I think that's mostly an expression of her anger in general ... at Natalia for leaving and maybe at herself because she let him goad her into lashing out. Now I loved seeing OFS again ... but she's trying to stay in control and not push him - because in her mind that pushes Natalia further away.
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Anyway, it's therefore interesting that this fight between Liv and Rafe took place on the baseball field, given that she's fighting against the patriarchal, heteronormative interpretation of her relationship with Nat, standing up against the male-controlled institution of the Catholic church etc.


Interesting idea. Mallet and Shayne have both used the ballpark for meditative purposes. I think I’d spin it another direction, vis-à-vis those on the inside and those on the outside of Springfield social acceptance. Thinking back to the ballgame to celebrate Remy joining the SPD: Dinah sliding home in her dress and tennies.

Can we compare and contrast with the use of basketball? Baseball scenes are often a single meditative male with an intervening female who stops the ball whacking. Basketball scenes start with a single male and then they include the second party in the hoop shooting.

Basketball is used even more than baseball as the bonding moment, primarily male, but sometimes the women get to play. Visually I was struck by Dinah walking in on Mallet shooting hoops, dropping her bag and shooting a basket while engaging in an obfuscating discussion on truth and secrets vs. Olivia, dropping her bag on homeplate and raging against the backstop over the endless line of bullcrap coming out of Rafe’s mouth.


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And then Liv takes the baseballs and throws and kicks them, in an angry, destructive manner, essentially trying to beat down or tear apart this male, American space. But of course nothing she does has any impact, and so the scene ends with her imprisoned (behind the fence) by the very things she's trying to fight against. So sad.


That’s a great read. I wouldn’t go as far as Liv v. Patriarchy, but being emotionally trapped, for sure. She’s got truth and justice on her side, but it’s not getting her anywhere.


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And now... it's about Rafe. It's about Ashlee. It's about Doris. It's about all our friends and family--just as it should be, according to GL's template. But it's not about the main characters, one of whom is literally invisible and the other, falling apart.


Hmmm. I’m willing to posit that some of this, irritating as it is, has to do with the tangled nature of all the soap story lines. Rafe talking to Ashlee is the fulcrum for the Ash/Doris encounter. Rafe insulting Olivia I have got to feel is setting her up – yes as you point out with her removing the shades at the end of that spiel to reveal a strong face not a weak one – to, for lack of a better word at the moment, come out in a positive way about how who she is. The vibe I have is the pieces being slowly moved into position for the next phase of the story. So – Olivia Spencer: cracking up or pulling it together?


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I thought the point of soaps (and even this one) was that they always, always punish lying. Dinah being enjoined to go live her life as a murderer: is that some kind of joke?


I particularly liked her saying she killed a man, *again.* Oops, she did it again! It seems you can only get in trouble for murdering innocents. Justifiable homicide is rife, even as tenuous as Dinah offing Edmund to protect Henry in advance. Didn’t Phillip throw Grady off the cliff not long ago? But Grady was evil.

The choices here are not good: Dinah killed an innocent man = she’s in big trouble. Dinah thought she killed Edmund, but he got up and walked away from the funeral parlour slab = she’ll get off and live to kill another day.

But, even if Dinah decides to take Matt’s advice, her culpability is not going away. Matt stated she should take this route since the cops think Jeffrey is guilty and since he is dead No Harm Can Come. Not true since Mallet thinks Marina did it. That‘s a triple lie set up, so you know it’s going to come bite her. The soap tenet, as we understand it, is that lies and secrets will always come out and these are the things about which characters must come clean.



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Nat hasn't actually lied in some basic ways…  It's not that she ran because she was wrong: she was wrong because she ran. Given that she did run, though--however emotionally distasteful it is to absolutely everyone--running without a note makes perfect sense. If she could articulate what she was running from she wouldn't have had to have run in the first place.


I really like how you put this :) Also your subsequent dialogue analysis with Rafe and Olivia. He does so have a career ahead of him with Fox News. He’s also got his mother over a similar barrel by insisting that she had lied to him about who she was. Whenever she might have told him would always be too late. He wanted her to tell him, essentially, before she knew herself.

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I noticed the theme of secrets, but also trust. Natalia has a secret. Rafe has been in his own closet.


Thanks for articulating that. I was trying to get at it myself this morning and couldn’t get it to “come out” right.

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Did Rafe EVER like Olivia? Hasn’t he always had it in for her?


I think “tolerate” is as far as one can go. He likes Emma. There’s lots of evidence that he knows she has done good things for him and his mother. But, he does seem to have his Oedipal issues… .
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I think the point is not that he has unmasked some secret fear of hers, but that the battle is over: she's looking at him with pity. That's the expression we need to see.

I totally agree with this read. But then why does she break down in the next scene, once he's left? (And great analysis of Rafe's rhetorical techniques in this scene. You are so right on.)

I agree with your analysis as well. :) That's what I meant (however we define what Olivia is fighting) when I said it was a pyrrhic victory. Because Olivia is fighting her own battles. She's fighting Natalia's battles. She's fighting their battles as a couple. She's is in no place emotionally where she can afford this, though she's doing it anyway. It's honorable, brave, and entirely admirable. But it's costing her. She has tried so hard not to smack this asshole down. Anyone else, we know she would have. And she stood up for herself, Natalia, AND for them, as a couple, in this interaction. She had to... but she got nowhere. So I guess that's what I felt the collapse was about. Not just the one thing, but cumulatively.

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I would actually enjoy this demonstration of how family and friends of people who come out also have to process their own closet, their own blame and anger, and come out themselves.

Just wanted to chime in with the love for this observation. This is what they totally should've been doing for the last 3 months.

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I foresee that TPTB will continue to play up the “love” thing without delivering on the saying and naming the “it’s not a bad word” lesbian.

ITA with you here.

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The vibe I have is the pieces being slowly moved into position for the next phase of the story.

More agreement. I actually don't think she's losing it. She has many bad moments. Many. But she's got Ava coming in today: reinforcements. She does have a support system.

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I really like how you put this smile.gif

Isn't it a good thing I'm not political? Cause, yknow. Heaven help us. Riiiight? Hee.

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He does so have a career ahead of him with Fox News. He’s also got his mother over a similar barrel by insisting that she had lied to him about who she was. Whenever she might have told him would always be too late. He wanted her to tell him, essentially, before she knew herself.

Yeah, it's a bogus set-up. And I for one cannot wait to see him forced to come to terms with his own sh*t. Rafe is not right in any big-picture way: Nat can't be accused of lying to him if she can barely understand or accept the truth herself. And it's a truth she still doesn't know because she still hasn't gone there.
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Did Rafe EVER like Olivia? Hasn’t he always had it in for her?


Rafe despised Olivia for a long time. She was doing everything in her power to break up his dad and mom, his dad was taking money to get Olivia moved up on the donor list when her heart was failing and she was dying, and it looked like he was a crooked cop -- this is why he shot Jeffrey and ended up in prison. His dad died rushing to Olivia's side and then she got his heart. He has been in and out of trouble since they came to Springfield. Got involved with Daisy and ended up in juvenile hall; she got pregnant and had an abortion. It's been one thing after another with him. He and Emma are 'cousins' since he is Gus' son and she is Phillip's daughter so they have a relationship that is outside of Olivia. When Olivia was really sick before the transplant Gus and Natalia took care of Emma a lot and they bonded then.

I don't know if he knows anything that Olivia has done for his mother and for him before and while he was in prison. He was fine with her as his mom's friend, but as a potential step-parent -- no way has he come to terms with that at all. Then with his Frank BFF stuff, it's easier to follow Frank's lead and blame Olivia for everything because the old Olivia was manipulative and he's never really seen anything but glimpses of the 'new' Olivia. This is in addition to the female/female thing that he is processing. His mother was so old school Catholic church that he can't wrap his head around her perceived hypocrasy. But this is a soap, so of course they won't sit down together and talk about it even thought she tried to do that and he refused. Then July 4th came and now she's run away. :rolleyes:
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Thanks for that background marymartin. As much as I've watched old clips, I've never understood the foundation of Emma's relationship with Nat and Rafe.
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Sorry double post. Damn that blackberry!
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And now it's a triple post, because I'm the first one to write about today's episode. I've only watched it once, and usually I watch twice before writing, but I'm not particularly inspired to, with this episode. It just wasn't that meaty, from an Olivia perspective or an Otalia perspective. But I did want to acknowledge the way they are hammering the "We all deserve a chance to say goodbye" which I now think is a broader message about the end of Guiding Light, and the fact that 2 million viewers are being given a chance to say goodbye, as much as the writers can give them that chance.

The idea that Reva and Olivia are in parallel situations honestly hadn't occurred to me until this episode (probably b/c I haven't been watching anything other than Olivia scenes), and those parallels will continue even more if (in true soap fashion) Jeffrey winds up being alive--no body means we can't be sure he's dead, right? Someone you love leaves you without giving you the chance to have closure, so how do you react when that person returns? Should Jeffrey not be dead, will Reva and Olivia have similar or different reactions to the return of their loved ones?

I'm really looking forward to whatever Olivia-Ava interactions we get. Olivia needs another adult who loves her unconditionally, and with whom she does not have a sexual history. Ava is it, so I hope we get some good stuff there.

OK, on to shallow matters: what was up with those sleeves on Olivia's blazer? OFS does NOT wear puffed sleeves!
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I've only just now watched the selects, and the "deserve to say goodbyes" also stuck out because she said the same thing yesterday to Ava over the phone.

Two days in a row for Olivia plaintively commenting about not being able to say goodbye.

Yesterday to Ava over the phone, “Everyone deserves a chance to say goodbye.”
Today to Philip at the park funeral, “I would have done the same. It’s just really unfair when the person you love leaves you like that and you don’t get to say goodbye. I mean there’s nothing worst. Cause everyone deserves a farewell, right?” That Natalia sure better get back to town soon. I don't want to be watching a plaintive big O, even though after yesterday I'm reassured she getting her groove back.

Good catch abzug on the wider GL to audience shot out about goodbye. Myself, I haven't had time to establish any nostalgia, will let the others weep.
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Oh wow, you're right. As I watch backwards to catch up with this soap, I really can't take it seriously that all the adults we see on scene are completely incestuous from a social standpoint...I know soap opera....

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what was up with those sleeves on Olivia's blazer? OFS does NOT wear puffed sleeves!
Forget the sleeves. Because of your botox comment I am obsessed with checking out the possible comestic surgery going on. NO!!!!! But also speaking of chin acting...I watched the heart transplant arch earlier...when Reva is about to tell Olivia that she has Gus's heart, I'm anticipating how she will respond. I totally wasn't expecting the chin action to be the major reaction.
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Sorry abzug, I was just sitting here agog after watching the ep today and hadn't formulated anything coherent to say. :silly

That was a good time piece of soap watching - Remy worried about seeing Ava, the mother of his now deceased baby; Mallet intent on breaking Marina; Dinah on the edge of confessing; Matt (wtf?) trying to get Dinah hitched with Shayne all while a memorial service is going on.

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We all deserve a chance to say goodbye" which I now think is a broader message about the end of Guiding Light


I agree that this is the general trend for the stories that will be ending, the ending of the series and perhaps the conclusion of the major stories as we head around the final bend.

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I'm really looking forward to whatever Olivia-Ava interactions we get. Olivia needs another adult who loves her unconditionally, and with whom she does not have a sexual history. Ava is it, so I hope we get some good stuff there.


I agree. Olivia's support network is very thin. I like this line of Ava's told to Reva: "He was a different man when he found you." That sums up those of us with Jeffrey dilopia (new word for the day!) . He is a rapist, is he a daddy? He's two personalities in one.

Old timer watchers: Just how is Shayne a step brother to Ava?

Sartorially - nice to see Rafe dressing for a funeral, since he didn't bother for the wedding. But abzug is it the puffy sleeves or the modest "neckline" that puts you off of Olivia's wardrobe choices today? Cause without the black chemise underneath, that jacket would have been highly inviting. ;)

Solitasolano and abzug - may we take a moment and contemplate the post potato chip scene. Wherein, Blake peels Liv's jacket off like she is skinning a cat.

Okay, we're done.
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