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Otalia - Guiding Light
Topic Started: Mar 29 2009, 06:54 PM (21,286 Views)
Jeanna
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And then this cast will still be having the annual GL luncheon for fans in NYC in Oct. I guess it will be more like a wake this year.
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Ugh, all this talk about last shooting dates & How Much Time is Left is depressing me. Sigh. Y'all go ahead, but I cannot keep one foot in & one foot out every day & not wind up walking funny.

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In contrast, Olivia knew she was in love with Natalia, and yet didn't communicate how she was feeling to Natalia, and in fact pushed Natalia away from the relationship. Olivia told others about her feelings, but had a hard time standing up for the feelings when others reacted

I've heard just a few other people express this view & it baffles me. Olivia tried and tried and tried and tried to discuss her feelings with Natalia for 2 solid months (whatever that means in soap time: for us, it was Jan-March) & Natalia turned her away or shot her down nearly every time. If you mean Olivia didn't discuss things with Natalia during the proposal/wedding stuff, yes, quite right, she did not. Because (imo) N. was so clearly unwilling to discuss their feelings beforehand. Which is what laid the groundwork for O's response in this realm. It wasn't 'just' soapy. She'd been shot down so often that when given a clear path to take (try yet again or say ok, maybe this is what she chooses, if not what she wants, despite every cell in my body screaming that's not the case), she took it.


I woke up thinking about the Bauer picnic, which I assume is not spoilery since everyone's been talking about it already? Had some thoughts (I don't read spoilers) but not sure if I can post. Opinions...??
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You woke up thinking about it?! I'm so sorry honey. What have I done?
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Um: ruined me?



..'salright. I wasn't doin nuthin with my life anyways. :)
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As Natalia would say, the lord works in mysterious ways, ek, very mysterious. :clap

Let 'er rip regarding the Bauer BBQ - assuming those of us who have any spoiled information can keep it to ourselves. I'm not aware of much advance knowledge about the specifics of what will take place during BBQ week being available as yet.

Spoiler free speculation - whatcha got?

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Jun 17 2009, 09:22 AM

and then some other actors on GL moving to ATWT -

Swear to God if they move Reva and Josh as reunited 'super couple' or even Reva and Jeffrey as a couple over to ATWT...I will personally TP Les Moonves' yard.


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Olivia tried and tried and tried and tried to discuss her feelings with Natalia for 2 solid months


So much word. Natalia was like a boxer avoiding a punch during all of that time! Bob and weave ... bob and weave. Olivia finally gave up and then started pushing Natalia towards the wedding.

I think I'm frightened ... YOU woke up thinking about the Bauer picnic? Really?

So since you thought about it ... let's hear some spec!
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As Natalia would say, the lord works in mysterious ways, ek, very mysterious

You talkin to me? About the *lord*? :eek

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I think I'm frightened ... YOU woke up thinking about the Bauer picnic? Really?

Omg, LOOK at all the grief I have to take here! I am never going to live this down, ruined. I am RUINED, Jeanna, do you hear me?

<sigh>


Well, nothing radical. Take molsongrrrl's observation that the small scenes with secondary characters are in fact leading to something. (Like Frank/Henry, or that dude who tried to hit on Olivia. Take Cagey's (and that Troublesome Jeanna's, etc etc) spec that the picnic is a natural setting for some kind of outing. I mean it's built into the framework at this point. With the picnic thing and the girl thing and the outdoors thing. :)

So... cumulative little breadcrumb scenes do suggest there'll be a payoff. Thing I was thinking is: it doesn't have to be radical, some big anvil or Event or Disaster. With the exception of the Runaway Bride & the stupid heart plot that started off this storyline, most of it has been very low key (For a Soap, that is. Qualifier always in place, natch).

All that needs to happen is some kind of scene: Rafe making a fuss, saying something too loudly, losing his temper. A scene with Frank. Or most likely, a scene with Rafe and Frank (both primary family at this point), the latter restraining Rafe or somehow playing peacemaker to redeem himself & prove his Good Manhood. Again.

I am not assuming Nat will be at the picnic even, or at least to start. We could have a "get away from her!" sort of moment if they wanted--Nat stepping up to defend R's attack on Olivia, say, at the last moment. But the most low-key thing seems equally plausible: the two are there together, maybe meeting up again after whatever-happens-next-to-take-Nat-off-camera-for-her-nonbaby, and there's one of those Someone Dropped the Glass in the Ballroom moments. So we get all the reaction shots (from the actors who can manage that), & we get Natalia stepping up to speak on her own behalf, and Olivia's, for them as a couple. The usual GL stuff: god loves me, he loves us, and sod off cause this IS my chosen family.

The only problem with this scenario--well, there's two. One is that it would shortchange us, if the writers don't have time in the next weeks, for all the fun smaller scenes with different characters running into Olivia and giving her the eyeball or saying, hey, I'm happy for you; or Natalia, while she's shopping & running into Father Doubtful again and each giving their reactions kinda thing. Which would also show how they're getting received into the community on a smaller scale.


But. Uh... GL's camerawork on large scenes has been terrible. I'm as comfy with the no-longer-especially-new production model as the next person. With anything competently done, however you qualify that. I am not good with static boring scenes that last 20 minutes for no bloody reason. Phillip's endless speech at the funeral does rather come to mind. The outside filming helps a little, but not that much--Edmund's endless wake comes to mind. These are the Sermon of the Month moments for GL, I guess. And although I get that, it doesn't mean I want to sit through one. I just hope they do a better job with the girls, is all I'm saying.
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that dude who tried to hit on Olivia


The ubiquitous Matt. Who also sort of tried to hit on Natalia. At least a lightbulb moment will be in store for him.

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We could have a "get away from her!" sort of moment


Very dramatic. And plausible. And could even happen with Rafe confronting Liv, even if Natalia is not present.

Should I tell you the somewhat telling thing, an acting note, now that CC tweeted about her scenes that day?
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No. Please no. :)

Do you know I don't even gt the main Otaliafan site until 2 weeks after eps have aired, in order to dl the 'coming attractions' (I like to see how it's being presented/framed, that way) for fear of spoilers?

True dat.

But do make a mental note & save it for After. :)
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Ugh. You are SO. Bad.

I am going back to work.

Yuh huh.

Am too.
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My computer hiccupped and when I looked--double posted.
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Jun 17 2009, 11:54 AM

But do make a mental note & save it for After. :)

Oh, I will. It's been resonating in my head with whatever's gonna happen since she posted it.
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Yeah, it's very hard to speculate about the picnic for those of us who know what CC said about filming that day, because there is some information which is totally not plot specific, but informs all speculation. So I feel like I can't even repond to your speculation, ekny, without revealing stuff which you are refraining from knowing. And I think you may be the only person who is that unspoiled right now.
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