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Otalia - Guiding Light
Topic Started: Mar 29 2009, 06:54 PM (21,284 Views)
Jeanna
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MAJOR spoiler spec Re CC's Tweets during BBQ. DON'T read this EK!


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You're referring especially, I would think, to her saying things such as it had been a rough day of shooting so far and she was emotionally drained from some "heavy crying scenes" in the morning?

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All indications are that they are going to come out to everyone. They have chosen to be together. I actually think the 'without the drama' remark yesterday was foreshadowing of more drama to come and Olivia being pulled into the Edmond storyline and the upcoming Phillip stuff.


Oh, I completely agree with that. (Or be outted somehow and just go with it.) They are going to be the centrepiece of the BBQ happenings for sure. Right in the midst of all the drama (melo and otherwise.)

Which brings us to CC's remark about getting to play something she's always wanted to do and never done before (other than this love story)... and what could that be, pray tell? She's never done a murder mystery? That seems unlikely as long as she's been doing soaps now. Or...is she referring to something else? Any guesses. I had one errant bad thought that made my blood run cold. But I'll try to dismiss that for now.

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This is classic soap. Every time a couple says "Nothing will ever separate us" or words to that effect, the viewer know they are in for a rough patch. To me, Natalia's quitting her job helps set up the next story arc leading up to Natalia leaving. Especially when I put the spoilers together with the tweets from CC and Tina Sloan during the Bauer BBQ shoot.


I was trying to remember if it was Gina or Tina who said that she was waiting for Nat to show up to do a scene with her and Liv? or something like that. Which surprised me, because there was spec as to whether JL had left for ML already, if she was at the BBQ at all. And, curiously, I don't remember CC mentioning her that day when she was getting everyone else there to *tweet* hello. But...if it had been Gina that would support the DEd storyline with Dinah and Shane...but if it's Nurse Jackie, I mean Lillian...then...doesn't that support the rumor (or spoiler as the case may be) that Nat is taken ill?


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First, two good interviews with CC, neither of which contains spoilers (well, the Advocate one has some stuff about JL's shooting schedule which could be considered spoilery):
http://www.2upbeatmag.com/TUBE-FILE/tube_f...l-chappell.html
http://www.advocate.com/exclusive_detail_ektid92107.asp
The both have photos from a gorgeous and sexy photo shoot CC did recently.


E, just walk away and don't read the rest of this.









JL was definitely already on maternity leave the day they filmed the bbq. She wasn't in the cast photo from that day, and at one point CC tweeted that she wasn't there (after a million and one fans tweeted to ask where Dimples was).
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Possible spoiler/spec Warning in reply to Abzug's comment above below <G> that she told you to walk away from, ek.






















So, here's the original *tweet* then during the BBQ shoot.

7:54 AM May 27th from web
Hi its tina sloan. Here waiting for natalia. Liv and i standing in
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So...Who's Natalia if not JL? I've also heard JL wasn't at the BBQ, but this made me question that assumption...and then it sounded as tho she might not have gone on ML until around June 1st and then there was this--so is this describing an anterior scene? Or does it just mean...Nat never showed up? Ooo. It's all so ominous.


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Jenna:

The way that tweet was worded -- 'waiting for Natalia' and not Jessica is what has me with one foot planted firmly in the Natnapping speculation. That, and the twist in the Edmond storyline that now has him 'alive'.
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Yessss...it becomes like Waiting for Godot. She just never shows up. Oh god, I don't need any more angst.
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Oh god, I don't need any more angst.


Hahahaha! Me either ... now if only we weren't watching a soap opera!

I'm kinda in the Natnapping camp too - it just seems to fit with the tweet's.
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I sent a postcard to Jill Lorie Hurst today with a heartfelt plea for some serious, sweet, love scenes showing these two HAPPY once JL returns from maternity leave after July 4. There is only five weeks to shoot after that and IMO since we are not getting the two year Otalia storyline originally contemplated, the fans deserve more than 10 or 15 minutes of happy scenes sandwiched between the Frank and Rafe garbage.
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Kidnapping is probably just Springfield's way of saying welcome to its latest supercouple.

Taking Natalia hostage for four weeks would leave Olivia prostrate for four weeks, which doesn't make sense. Or she'll have to saddle up and ride with Reva in search of Jeffrey and Dinah in search of Edmund. Enjoyable as that sounds, I don't *think* it's the storyline that CC is looking forward to doing in albeit a truncated form.

As to Tina Sloan with the waiting for Natalia: remember who her character is and what she spends most of her time doing. They could be waiting to hear from Natalia; waiting for Natalia to wake up - comas are always useful.

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Frank and Rafe garbage


Word. I mean I'm tired of Rafe's whining, but I am so over Frank it's not even funny anymore.

On Friday, when Frank told Olivia the gift she should give Natalia and Rafe was time and space, I cracked up. Because all I could think was ... hey GL writers why not do that for your viewers? Because we all need time and space from Frank. Serious. I think the guy works for free (TWoP) at this point because he's been on every damn day for 3 weeks.
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When Frank D said we'd love him by the end of this...did that mean he's going to die in the line of duty? Because, at this point, that's about the only thing that would do it.
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Because, at this point, that's about the only thing that would do it.


I'm not even sure death would be enough. I officially dislike Frank more than Reva and believe me, I never thought I'd ever dislike any other character more than Reva.

For me, this has been the one part of the story where I think the writers have stumbled. Frank has simply been in the Otalia orbit for too long. First his constant interruptions of conversations etc went on a wee bit too long and now this stuff with Rafe. His continued presence and preaching is just beyond annoying.

There is just nothing that could happen to redeem the character as far as I'm concerned. I just want him off my screen. Period.
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Well, of course I was being sarcastic. Because, you're right, not even that is going to make up for the constant annoyance.
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Possible spoiler/spec Warning ..... walk away ek.

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In regards to what Olivia will be up to for the weeks that Natalia is out of town. My speculations have included ...

Olivia's story line will include Philip. If he is very ill, I am sure Emma will be devastated as she loves her dad.

There is also a good possibility that Rafe and Olivia could get closer because of Phillip's illness. Rafe adores Emma and I am sure he could step up and be the big brother Emma is going to need.
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ek is gonna come in here after this has all blown over, take one look at all of our absurd speculation and laugh us right off the board. <G>

Tho...I think the Phillip is ill spec is a very good one and fitting for the end of this soap.

In other words, none of us have a clue what is really going to happen. It may be total anti-climax to our ideas of plot twists and much simpler. If one of our wild guesses may come to pass...it's just going to be the luck of throwing every wild soap plot out there into the air, one of them is bound to have some validity.
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I hate to think Philip was resurrected just to die yet again, but if the actor or the character has to go in order to make more time for Olivia and Natalia, I don't mind if most of Springfield gets mowed down.

- Personally, looking for Rafe to get back with Daisy, which would probably be the best way for him to cool his jets about his Mom.

- Frank to get with the program and stop being, well, Frank - which I am expecting to happen after the BBQ. For all of his Plot Device Purpose for the last few months, he doesn't seem to be a particularly heinous character - and Olivia did do him once, so he must have some redeeming value. ;) Or attribute.

- The new Olivia plot line to be something positive and forward looking, in keeping with the Happy Family Ending of the series. Don't know what that is just yet. The diamonds are about run through, the murder is getting murky - there must be something new on the horizon.

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In other words, none of us have a clue what is really going to happen.


So true dat. From what I hear about the Bauer BBQ in general, those of us newer viewers should get our hip boots on. I read somewhere that there is a new Bauer Kitchen set. You elder viewers can concur, but I understand this to be a week long fest of people running in and out of the kitchen spreading gossip and anvils.
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