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SPOILERS Otalia - Guiding Light; Discussion and Speculation
Topic Started: Jun 28 2009, 03:13 AM (6,505 Views)
abzug
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In case anyone still reads this thread, some thoughts/speculation related to tomorrow's spoilers:

It took me 5 hours to put 2 and 2 together and realize that Olivia is in a real bind right now. She doesn't trust Natalia enough to be with her. But on the other hand, she loves Natalia, and therefore the idea of Natalia raising ANOTHER child alone is intolerable to her. And it would be her fault that Natalia is a single parent again, because she'd be abandoning Natalia and the family Natalia had envisioned. No wonder she tries to convince Frank to marry Nat again. Because it's like how self-sacrificing can she be? She loses in any event: she either doesn't get to be with Nat, who she loves, OR she implicitly accepts Nat's abandonment by reuniting with her without complaint (or even with complaint). In the former scenario, Nat also loses, b/c Nat has to raise a child alone. It's like her only option is the latter, but she can't bear that kind of self-sacrifice, because it gives her too little control. It's a very interesting quandary Liv has found herself in.
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Your post was great fun to read because I have no idea what Olivia is going to tell Frank or not. But, I am still of the opinion that this is about Liv finally letting go rather than her fixing up Nat, once again, with Frank. That itself has so much to say about Liv's interior feelings about pledging herself forever to a woman.

Once Nat got good with Jesus, she isn't afraid anymore. Olivia is so completely afraid of everything involving actual connection that this might be the fulcrum.
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They're on tomorrow! Yay!

Here's a video of a scene:
http://www.cbs.com/daytime/guiding_light/v...e51ZD&play=true

And here's the description:
Olivia receives a surprise bouquet of flowers from Natalia. Frank explains to Buzz that's he's trying to figure out what to do for the baby and Natalia. Natalia invites Frank to her next doctor's appointment. Blake explains to Olivia why she kept quiet when she knew Natalia was pregnant. Olivia doesn't understand why Natalia couldn't tell her. Natalia brings Olivia cookies and states how much she loves her. Frank tells Natalia that he'll be at her doctor's appointment with her and wants to draw up legal papers about custody. Frank gets a message from someone on the dating site and they start chatting online. Blake is on the other end of the dating site, and unknowingly chats with Frank.
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And next week Liv and Nat go on a date! Yay!
http://soaptownusa.com/glspoil.html
(there's a small photo if you click through)
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Next week:
Olivia refuses to give Natalia a job because she feels it would be too hard for her to be around Natalia if they work together. Instead, Olivia asks Alan to find Natalia a job. Natalia sets up a meeting with Olivia to talk about their future, but Olivia tells her their relationship isn't going to work out the way she wants it to. Natalia and Frank push aside their sorrows to concentrate on their unborn child, which is expected to be born on November 28th. Frank and Natalia agree as long as they love the baby, they can make their arrangement work. Olivia continues to struggle with her feelings for Natalia, but is determined not to be hurt again.
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Not peeking too much to say thanks for the upcoming clip abzug. I saw most of it with the coming up at the end of today's ep but --

Natalia: hair curled and new clothes -- you know that's a sign of the personality make over. This should be fun.
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Yeah, I thought the same about the curly hair. And SO cute on her!
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By the way everyone, I'm going to be away all next week, so you'll have to live without the sprack. But since I don't want to leave you completely bereft:

Monday 8/24
Olivia refuses to help Natalia;
Cyrus and Remy leave the country in search of a treasure;
Ed discovers a risky cure for Phillip.

Tuesday 8/25
Mallet makes a hard choice;
Phillip tries to salvage the time he has left by spending it with his family

Wednesday 8/26
Mallet Leaves Springfield;
Natalia sets up a date for her and Olivia;
Holly returns to town.

Thursday 8/27
Cyrus, Remy and Buzz are astonished with their discovery;
Marina and Shayne decide Henry's future;
Jonathan tries to talk some sense into Reva.

Friday 8/28
Buzz makes a big announcement to his family;
Billy proposes;
Natalia is stunned by Rafe's news.
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Thanks Abzug -

oh yeah - it's time to join the Army. Get his butt out of here.

But swear to god I am more concerned with the fate of the other stories now. :o

Mallet is gonna leave? For real? Shayne ends up with Marina just because of baby Henry? Not a good move - but then I have no idea if Marina and Shayne were particularly star-crossed to begin with.

Hey - what happened to the women with the history about this show? Help?
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Oh, and other spoilers which came up but we forgot about them but which will probably happen next week include Natalia interrupting Olivia and Matt (perhaps on date night?) and something about Emma, Olivia, Philip and Rick playing basketball. Or something with the four of them.
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Guess who has internet in rural Maine? That you would be your friendly neighborhood sprack pusher. With a clip of a scene from tomorrow's episode (the one where we saw all those photos in mid-July):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQOuLldfaUM
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Aug 20 2009, 11:38 AM
And next week Liv and Nat go on a date! Yay!
http://soaptownusa.com/glspoil.html
(there's a small photo if you click through)

Now I see why it's so quiet...! Abzug phone home. :crutch

So I caught up here because, really, wtf. Whatever. Clicked through and clearly, if they were going on a date (other than the blighted rooftop event, which I would not call a date in my worst nightmare), that didn't happen. I assume this shot is supposed to make me take heart, but all I could think was: of COURSE! *Nose-rubbing*! Golly. Now there's some sexual frisson fer ya, right there, why didn't *I* think of that.

Because that's about as close as they's gonna get. And you know... periodically I'm really ok with that, because I can barely keep my Bad Girls discs in their little plastic disc-holders for waiting for this to be over. Especially after today's episode. What a waste of fucking time.

Exeunt spoiler thread for me, dudes. :(
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Cagey told me about a date with Matt.

how did you people deal with this level of bullshit for all these months? I'd have popped a blood vessel. Yes, I'm sure it's the last salvo in the get-thee-to-a-Nataliaery business with Liv and Men, but really, how insulting. How totally fucking pathetic. Two weeks to go and this is what we have to put up with? Am *this* close to downloading & just watching it as a clump after it's all over. Matt? Matt that sorry-ass twerp who wasn't even a character 2 months ago from 100 years back, some *nobody* whose only function is lame pick-up lines a former player like Olivia wouldn't stop to even sneer at Matt? THAT Matt?

Don't make me laugh. The very idea is beneath contempt.
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Cagey shared this with me so it's only therapeutic to pass the pipe round.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJXxT8Q9VJk
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So I caught up here because, really, wtf. Whatever.

So does that mean you are completely spoiled now and I can quote myself from way back August 12? or just for the Matt date?


The Hitler vid....watched it MOS the other day as I had to be "listening" for my job...and nearly split my sides ....my fav bit, "What am I going to do with all the purple stuff I got" or something to that effect.

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